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Reel Irie
02-24-2012, 08:26 AM
buying a 2012 F150 FX2 Crew Cab Ecoboost.......

;cool;


FishFighter92
02-24-2012, 09:18 AM
Its a Ford, and for an FX2 it isn't worth it if you are going to be doing anything boat wise/pulling. I have a couple buddies with FX2s and they don't do anything but drive it on the roads. It just a shiny piece of plastic!

Hope that worked! hahaha

Reel Irie
02-24-2012, 09:29 AM
haha thanks!

actually the price is turning me off the most right now.......


farm use
02-24-2012, 09:31 AM
Chicks dig a guy in a Prius!

blackdawg
02-24-2012, 09:35 AM
.......because 2wd trucks can barely get out of wet grass.

Reel Irie
02-24-2012, 09:43 AM
you guys are doing a good job!

Regulator29
02-24-2012, 09:51 AM
Because everyone on the THT knows you need at least an F550 diesel to tow with.

HTV
02-24-2012, 10:58 AM
There's rumor you can get'r'done with a Rav 4.

240 LTS
02-24-2012, 11:01 AM
It hasn't been on the market long enough to see the long term reliability of that engine?


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FredRog72
02-24-2012, 11:02 AM
It will kick your dog, slap your wife around and knock up your daughter when you're at work!

Esuomm1
02-24-2012, 11:04 AM
150's are for girls
FX2's look more like runway models than trucks
Too expensive and will take a huge hit when it comes time to resell.
Buy a Toyota truck instead if you want a 150 Ford.

If you were buying a real truck, 250's and up, Toyota's not an option but for a 150, Toy's are better.

sailence
02-24-2012, 11:10 AM
150's are for girls
FX2's look more like runway models than trucks
Too expensive and will take a huge hit when it comes time to resell.
Buy a Toyota truck instead if you want a 150 Ford.

If you were buying a real truck, 250's and up, Toyota's not an option but for a 150, Toy's are better.

I agree. I have a 5.7 tundra, you can get them in 4wd too for not that much more. You can haul a good amount weight and at 6,000 lbs you can hardly tell your pulling anything (compared to others trucks I've driven)

Reel Irie
02-24-2012, 11:11 AM
currently a Toyota owner, the Tundra just doesn't do it for me, looking for decent gas mileage also...

sailence
02-24-2012, 11:16 AM
You'll not find it in a v8. they advertise gas mileage but they arent ever right. you'll get 20 mpg if you accelerate very very slowly, cruise on a highway without ever slowing down or speeding up once set.

What year model and type of toyo are you driving now?

CaptGorges
02-24-2012, 11:27 AM
Pops just got a '12 F150 4x4 after I bought his GMC 2500 since he doesn't pull big things around. Said the EcoBoost just didn't do it for him. 60k mile warranty is pretty weak.

sailence
02-24-2012, 11:31 AM
The thins is all trucks can be good, its just based on your preference. I know that my family have bene diriving toyotas for the past 15 years, and honestly, they have never had mechincal issues except for one had an o ring failure and cruise control failure. 2 things in the past 15 years of driving them. Those nipdenso parts they put in them are amazing.

But it's hard to tell someone what to drive cause no will tell me to drive a ford, cause I wont. So personal preference takes precedence over someone elses advice,

JOEKEN
02-25-2012, 01:40 PM
I have a 2011 FX2 with the 5.0L. I love the truck. I chose the F150 over the Tundra. It drives night and day better than the Tundra. I worked for Toyota for years and had driven every combination Tundra built. I got the F150 much cheaper than a comparably equipped Tundra.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/JOEKENBOB/IMAG0031.jpg

Mike Boehler
02-26-2012, 07:26 AM
I bought a 2012 F-150 4wd NON ECO BOOST, and everyone that didn't have to spend the money on MY truck told me I was a fool for not getting the Eco Boost.

PLEASE someone tell me why? No one has so far. I'm getting 21 MPG doing 75 on the highway (not towing), I bought this as a "chase" vehicle to drive behind a larger truck with tools and crew.

Around town I'm getting 16 or 17 MPG...

what is the payback on the Eco-boost? like 57 years,11 months?

amchevy
02-26-2012, 07:29 AM
Its a Ford, that should talk you out of it right there. And forget gas milage, all advertised milage ratings are crap. my truck was listed at 15-21 mpg. I get 14 and 10 towing. 2011 Silverado 5.3 6 speed. I dont know anything about the eco boost, but I wouldnt consider it till it was a proven tow engine. 6 cyl ???

I will be going with an 2500HD this year. My lease is up in December and I dont like the fuel management system the 1500's have. That is my ONLY complaint about the Silverado. Plus the bride is going to move up in camper size in a year or two so I want the extra towing ability.

Esuomm1
02-26-2012, 07:35 AM
PLEASE someone tell me why? No one has so far. I'm getting 21 MPG doing 75 on the highway (not towing), I bought this as a "chase" vehicle to drive behind a larger truck with tools and crew.

Around town I'm getting 16 or 17 MPG...

Drafting close to the larger truck when on the freeway? HyperMileaging (sp) it?

Joking of course.

StPeteRebel
02-26-2012, 07:47 AM
I have the 5.0, my dad has the ecoboost. I does pull the 4500 lb boat better but does not get better fuel mileage when towing. It does get 1 mpg better fuel economy when not towing though. I like the ecoboost, it pulls harder compared to the 5.0.

SoulDeepDan
02-26-2012, 08:14 AM
Buy a loaded XLT with the 5.0

My 2010 4.6 3v window sticker says 15 city 21 hwy, I get a little over 15 city and have gotten 22 hwy, average speed of 60 mph with forged 22's.

As far as 2wd traction goes, thats what good tires are for. (I drive the same truck in a 4 x 4 at work and it is so nice to get in my 2wd at the end of the day, like going from a dump truck to a Mustang)

Traction baby!

fldmax
02-26-2012, 08:28 AM
Mike you are the exception to the rule!!! Here is my experience about the Ford trucks. (I run a shop that does mostly fleet work) I have fleets and customers with F-150's and even the ecoboost. Most are 2wd's and are averaging 15 mpg in town and 18 highway. Best 4x4 in the F-150 is 14 in town and 17 highway. The f-250 4x4 with the 5.4 is about 12 to 13 if driven easy in town or on highway, they just suck gas!!!!! 1 of the ecoboost is used as a route truck mostly in town driving and it's average is 16 to 17 mpg Carries about 200 lbs in the bed all the time. Remember this is mostly driven in town with a max of 30 miles on Interstate or open highway each day. Amazing how many companies are watching fuel economy now using GPS and live tracking, If it runs over 5 minutes idle time and it text's the supervisor. so no it is not driven hard at all. sad Ford could not get the mileage out of the 4.6 as that is a good engine. I had a fleet tell me after GPS was installed and a perimeter was set up if the driver went out of their area and or off route that their fuel consumption dropped 1200 gallons of gas first month on 26 vehicles. That's a huge savings.

Hullin
02-26-2012, 09:08 AM
Buy the truck you want the most. Toyota people say Fords suck, but I have a 1998 company F150 with the 4.6 that has 482,000 miles without any significant problems. Truck is great. We have another 6-8 F150s and Rangers all with well over 200,000 miles. Just sold a 1999 F250 with the 5.4 for $3,000 and it had 332,000 miles. All of them great trucks. I am currently running a 2011 F250 Lariat with the 6.2 gas and I love the truck.

fldmax
02-26-2012, 09:17 AM
Buy the truck you want the most. Toyota people say Fords suck, but I have a 1998 company F150 with the 4.6 that has 482,000 miles without any significant problems. Truck is great. We have another 6-8 F150s and Rangers all with well over 200,000 miles. Just sold a 1999 F250 with the 5.4 for $3,000 and it had 332,000 miles. All of them great trucks. I am currently running a 2011 F250 Lariat with the 6.2 gas and I love the truck.


That 6.2 is a beast and luv's it some gas. But, then you need gas to help get HP. :thumbsup:

Just Not Right
02-26-2012, 01:46 PM
I am driving a F150 Eco boost loaner truck now and really like it. I would own one if I didnt use the truck for heavy towing regularly.
If you do decide to get it, PM me, I'll get you a X-Plan (friends & family) code for a better deal.

Hullin
02-26-2012, 02:18 PM
The 6.2 is a good engine and it does like to drink, but it does better than my 2008 with the 6.8. That motor is a real beast, but it is also really thirsty. Like you said, if you are going to tow a heavy load you are going to burn fuel. Live with it and move on....

FINNally
02-26-2012, 03:12 PM
Question for you X-Plan guys...I was very close to buying a 2011 Ford FX4 in January. The dealer gave me a copy of the invoice ("dealers copy"). I did not have a PIN, but was offered a lower price than if I did have one. The dealer offered me their 'invoice price' which was $100 or so less than the X-Plan.

So, what am I missing here? Is it that most dealers wont provide you with the invoice and being a X-plan participant requires the dealers to show it to you?

Regulator29
02-27-2012, 02:02 PM
Question for you X-Plan guys...I was very close to buying a 2011 Ford FX4 in January. The dealer gave me a copy of the invoice ("dealers copy"). I did not have a PIN, but was offered a lower price than if I did have one. The dealer offered me their 'invoice price' which was $100 or so less than the X-Plan.

So, what am I missing here? Is it that most dealers wont provide you with the invoice and being a X-plan participant requires the dealers to show it to you?

I purchased a 2011 F350 6.7 diesel Jan 2011. Went to my local Ford dealer with my X-plan PIN on Friday, salesman asked if we could close deal on Monday, he was in a hurry to head out of town. I shopped my X-plan deal on Saturday and found high volume Ford dealer 70 miles away that beat my X-plan deal with their internet price. Called local dealer sales manager and told him if he wanted my business he would need to match the other dealer's internet price, which he said he couldn't. I saved about $1,500 over the X-plan on a truck that listed for $61,000.

crothers
02-27-2012, 02:33 PM
The dealer can sell the vehicle at a price of their chosing. As noted here, possible that price can be lower than xplan. My take is xplan gets you a good, no hassle price and the dealer can charge only $75 in fees. Not all dealers will offer xplan on all vehicles. A hot moving car/truck with the right options probably is going to sell well above xplan, while a oddly optioned car may be tough to move and the dealer more inclined to take less profit.
In Michigan or other areas with auto employees, employee (known as Aplan in Ford speak) and xplan sales are a large part of the sales mix. Aplan is 2% below xplan, if I remember correctly. I would think having a dealer show you the invoice and using the xplan for a target price gets you a pretty good deal if not an employee. Watch out for add on fees, though.

fishaholic82
02-27-2012, 08:10 PM
I have a fx2 with the ecoboost and it pulls my 22' bay boat like a champ. Its makes my 2007 silverado look like a tonka toy. As far as the towing goes the ecoboost it has the highest towing capacity of any half ton trucks on the market. And yes the gas mileage depends on how heavy your foot is. These trucks have some serious power and they are quick its hard not to put your foot in it. I average around 20mpg doing 80 on the highway and around 15 in town. I just recently drove to florida and had to get there quick for a family emergency. I drove between 85-95 the whole way and was constantly passing other vehicles and I average mid 17's mpg. It may not be the advertised mpg's but I'll take what I'm getting any day from a half ton truck with a towing capacity over 11,000lbs. Oh and by the way my wifes uncle drives an 09 Tundra with the 5.7 and my ecoboost left it like it was a 4 banger.

farm use
02-28-2012, 05:35 AM
I just saw one. Nice looking truck. The world is suppose to end this year so just buy it!

Reel Irie
02-28-2012, 10:33 AM
I am

but went with the 5.0, moonroof, Luxury package --- A/C in your leather seats ... ahhhhhh

venison
02-29-2012, 08:32 AM
Whats the difference between the 3.7 V6 and the 3.5 ecoboost V6? Anything in the MPG category?

Rico2
03-02-2012, 05:24 PM
Oh and by the way my wifes uncle drives an 09 Tundra with the 5.7 and my ecoboost left it like it was a 4 banger.

Question; Did your wifes Uncle know you were racing him,,,,,,,cause the eco boost I drove could barely match my 5.7 Tundra, and it certainly did not "leave it like it was a 4 banger."

Arnt torque and HP very similar between the two ?

Reel Irie
03-09-2012, 05:58 AM
Here is a pic of what I got, a few mods added already....

farm use
03-09-2012, 07:29 AM
Nice!

fishaholic82
03-12-2012, 08:17 PM
Rico 2, we we're on a 2 lane road late at night and we we're side by side so I'd say he knew we we're racing. Both trucks are bone stock and while we we're even on the take off that was only for a few seconds then I left him easily. We even swapped trucks and the outcome was the same. These trucks are running high 14's in the quartermile stock. I like the Tundras(i almost bought one til I drove the fx2 i purchased) but they don't ride near as good as the f150's. And I didn't buy my truck for the higher mpg's, its just an added bonus.

notgottaboatyet
03-12-2012, 08:25 PM
I am

but went with the 5.0, moonroof, Luxury package --- A/C in your leather seats ... ahhhhhh

what was the mpg difference with the 4x4?



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