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fishtale
02-09-2012, 12:11 PM
:mad: So, i just got a $290 ticket for my truck driver side window tint being too dark (14.8%). :banghead::banghead: I just got an inspection last week and they didn't mention it being too dark. Anyway, how difficult is it to remove? I've read about several methods just wanted some real world experience. By the way, did i say :mad::mad: yet!!!


saltshaker8
02-09-2012, 05:52 PM
Its Not To Hard To Get Off Racor Blade & Some Soapy Water Will Do It. Took Mine off A while Back When I Got A Warning Ticket. Might have To Use Some Adhesive Remover To Get Some Glue Off.

fishtale
02-09-2012, 05:57 PM
SS8, you didn't have to apply any kind of heat?


gfretwell
02-09-2012, 07:23 PM
I took the tint off of my side windows and it was a huge pain in the ass. I used soapy water, then some stuff called tint remover, then alcohol. In the end it was all "scrape with a razor blade" and the effect of everything else was insignificant. I tried heat too, no joy.
I still have it on the back window but I know scraping will destroy the defroster traces

Lemke
02-09-2012, 08:11 PM
The easiest way to do it...

Take a dark colored plastic garbage bag, then slit it along the seams so you have a single ply. Spray 409 (don't argue about other products having the same chemicals, blah, blah, just use 409) on the window, liberally, and then lay up the trash bag. Trim the bag so you can shut the door. Leave it in the sun for several hours. The window tint will peel right off if its not already laying on your armrest.

stringer bell
02-09-2012, 08:16 PM
Fight the ticket, and show up with friends truck (not tinted) at the court. Put your tag on it :)

I did this once and got away with it, seriously. Judge actually walked out to inspect the car. I got ticketed in 300ZX Twin Turbo coupe (black) and rolled into court hearing in friends Audi A4 sedan (black). Did not switch tags either! Judge didn't notice anything wrong

LOL

grouperkng
02-09-2012, 08:37 PM
friend of mine had dark tint in FL.. Cop pulled him over said his tint was to dark and took a razor or key something and scratched the piss out of it.
Department got to pay for new tint :)
Helps you in no way whatsoever sorry about your ticket

saltwaterjunkie28
02-10-2012, 04:10 AM
It's a lot easier to print up a work order for "window tint removal" and carry that into the courthouse than scraping it off. But I have removed plenty and all it takes is a razor blade, glass cleaner, and some elbow grease.

rwidman
02-10-2012, 05:09 AM
I had a tear in a tinted widow on my boat and a slip neighbor who owns a tinting business volunteered to replace it for me if I removed the old film.

I don't recall it being difficult at all. I think I just used a razor blade to lift one corner and then peeled it off. Cleanup took several passes with Windex.

For the OP - If you're going to replace the film with a legal version, just let the shop remove the old and install the new. They will know how.

muskamoot
02-10-2012, 06:18 AM
First thing to do is to READ the regulation you are being cited for and make sure you are in violation.These cops have been known to make things up.

Thalasso
02-10-2012, 11:43 AM
:mad: So, i just got a $290 ticket for my truck driver side window tint being too dark (14.8%). :banghead::banghead: I just got an inspection last week and they didn't mention it being too dark. Anyway, how difficult is it to remove? I've read about several methods just wanted some real world experience. By the way, did i say :mad::mad: yet!!!

19A NCAC 03D .0551 WINDOW TINTING
Aftermarket car window tinting is legal in North Carolina. Non-windshield windows may not be any darker than 35 percent visible light transmission. Windshields may also be tinted, but they may not be less than 32 percent visible light transmission. Windshield tint can't extend more than five inches from the top of the windshield or below the AS1 line of the windshield, depending on which one is longer. The AS1 line is a border on the windshield, beyond which you can't tint; the line is placed so nothing impairs the driver's vision.

Laws Regarding Inspections
During a car's safety inspection, which is required by law, the North Carolina Department of Motor Vehicles (NC DMV) will look at tinted windows with a photometer. You will pay an additional $10 fee on top of the standard $27.20 safety inspection fee to make sure the window tint is within regulation.

Exemptions From the Law
Every vehicle must abide by North Carolina's tinting laws on the windshield. However, a number of vehicles are exempt from the tinting restrictions for the other windows. Windows for sightseeing and tour passenger vehicles; for-hire vehicles such as taxis; and common-carrier passenger vehicles, motor homes, ambulances, property-moving vehicles, limos and law enforcement vehicles are free from the 35 percent visible light transmission rule. A multipurpose vehicle, such as a minivan or pickup truck, is meant to carry 10 passengers or fewer and is built on a truck chassis or has special features for occasional off-road use. Multipurpose vehicles may be exempt from North Carolina tinting laws as well.

If a station determines a vehicle has after-factory window tinting but does not have an approved light
meter, the mechanic must inform the customer he is unable to perform the inspection. The station may not
charge for any portion of the inspection

Certian colors ar not permitted

fishtale
02-10-2012, 01:33 PM
Yep, that be the rule he quoted and mine measured 14.8 on the little gizmo he used.

yarcraft91
02-10-2012, 03:10 PM
First thing to do is to READ the regulation you are being cited for and make sure you are in violation.These cops have been known to make things up.

That's a fact. Had a cop complain the tint on my new van windows was too dark the day I bought the truck. I pulled out the window sticker, showed him it was factory standard tinted glass, not film and suggested he might have to fight that one out with GM. He backed off.

mwgoldman
02-10-2012, 04:16 PM
Fight the ticket, and show up with friends truck (not tinted) at the court. Put your tag on it :)

I did this once and got away with it, seriously. Judge actually walked out to inspect the car. I got ticketed in 300ZX Twin Turbo coupe (black) and rolled into court hearing in friends Audi A4 sedan (black). Did not switch tags either! Judge didn't notice anything wrong

LOL

Yeah, thats perjury and a whole lot more expensive than 290 bucks.

Cmann
02-10-2012, 04:22 PM
First thing to do is to READ the regulation you are being cited for and make sure you are in violation.These cops have been known to make things up.

That's a fact. Had a cop complain the tint on my new van windows was too dark the day I bought the truck. I pulled out the window sticker, showed him it was factory standard tinted glass, not film and suggested he might have to fight that one out with GM. He backed off.

I guess it's true what they say.....You learn something new every day.
Today I learned that there is actual sun light in Michigan.:grin:

Was wondering what tinted windows would do in Michigan?

Danny33486
02-10-2012, 04:34 PM
I got a ticket for this 2 weeks ago. A clothes steamer will release the tint. Even a little cheap one it will come right off. I am not removing mine though

Jus Teasin
02-10-2012, 04:37 PM
If you go to court and show that you corrected the tint (by removing it, or replacing it with legal tint), there is a very good chance that the judge will dismiss the ticket. Just say you didn't know, and now it's fixed.
This worked for me years ago...........Good luck.

ZIGZAG
02-10-2012, 05:03 PM
I can;t believe NC dmv finally did something right, now maybe they'll start ticketing those obnoxious, blinding white lights.

fijon
02-10-2012, 08:40 PM
Got that ticket when I was 20, 20 years ago. I had 5% all around. Ammonia will dissolve the adhesive. If the tint is not too old it will come off somewhat easily.

rla69
02-11-2012, 03:33 AM
Fight the ticket, and show up with friends truck (not tinted) at the court. Put your tag on it :)

I did this once and got away with it, seriously. Judge actually walked out to inspect the car. I got ticketed in 300ZX Twin Turbo coupe (black) and rolled into court hearing in friends Audi A4 sedan (black). Did not switch tags either! Judge didn't notice anything wrong

LOL

Bad advise,get caught doing that and you will have a very pissed off judge and police officer.The end result will cost you far more money if you try a stunt like that.

budbrande
02-11-2012, 05:26 AM
I understand why the police don't like limo tint because they can not see in the vehicle but it still amazes me that a guy driving a freaking pickup truck gets the ticket yet in Raleigh you have the getto gangbangers riding around town with limo tint on all of their windows and they don't get bothered! I guess the police are afraid they will get accused of racial profiling if they pull them over. Sorry for the rant, but it's true!

Junior01
02-11-2012, 05:28 PM
Take it from me, (27 year police officer) take it to the shop, tell them to put on the legal tint on the front windows. pay the 125.00 to get it done. Go to court with the receipt and ASK the judge to dismiss since you have already paid the 125.00 to get it fixed, legal. and you should be good to go.

Junior01
02-11-2012, 05:34 PM
no street officer worries about profiling. We profile all the time and make good legal cases.
the Cheifs of police and the Feds are the only 'officers' worried about that

RockOnOBX
02-11-2012, 05:51 PM
Just remove the tint and take a picture of it removed. Then see if the county has an administrative court date and take your info to the DA and they should drop ticket at no cost to you. You could even try going to the DA's Office and presenting that same info. If that doesnt work goto court on your court date and get there early and talk to the DA and tell him you have complied with the ticket by removing the tint. They will 99% of the time dismiss it unless you had an attitude with the officer. The General Statute on tint says if you correct the problem within 14 days and take the car to your NCSHP District Office and have them verify it they will give you form to take to the DA. Dont do like some one said in a previous post and put a ficticious plate on your car and lie to an officer or DA about it. He may have gotten away with it but when I was working I would have seen that the cars didnt match. Hope it helps.

yarcraft91
02-11-2012, 06:58 PM
Was wondering what tinted windows would do in Michigan?

Tinted windows in Michigan prevent snow blindness. :)

maxsajenda
02-11-2012, 07:03 PM
In Florida we have a medical waiver form that your doctor can sign and you can have as dark of tint as you want even on your windsheild. you get it filled out and send it and 15$ to the dmv and it goes on your registration. they should have it up there. id check i have 5% on everything but the windsheild

slapshot
02-12-2012, 09:10 AM
If it's just the side windows (no defroster wires, etc), the easiest way I removed tint years ago when I was detailing cars was razor blades and the spray can foamy window cleaner with ammonia. First, peel the tint itself off, the adhesive will stay stuck to the window. Spray the window cleaner on the glue and let it sit for a few minutes. I repeated this a couple times to soften up the glue. Then use the razor blades to scrape the glue right off. You also can try fine steel wool to remove the glue too. It makes a bit of a mess, but removes it quick.

FYI, for the medical exemption in FL, you need a few specific medical conditions and DHSMV does review every application. They just don't mail you the exemption automatically.

$290 for a tint ticket?? ouch
I thought tickets here in FL were expensive. Tint tickets here are $116 (non moving violation).

maxsajenda
02-12-2012, 09:17 AM
Yeah well most eye doctors and dermotologists agree with tint and a lot of people have conditions warranting it. I have macular degeneration and on my way to skin cancer so i guess i passed the examination.

rwidman
02-12-2012, 12:21 PM
I got a ticket for this 2 weeks ago. A clothes steamer will release the tint. Even a little cheap one it will come right off. I am not removing mine though

You a slow learner? How many tickets will it take to change your mind?

rwidman
02-12-2012, 12:24 PM
.................... Dont do like some one said in a previous post and put a ficticious plate on your car and lie to an officer or DA about it. He may have gotten away with it but when I was working I would have seen that the cars didnt match. .

You get some pretty stupid suggestions on THT. The trick is to understand which ones are the stupid ones and which are not.

He could have ended up in jail over that attempt to fool a judge.

rwidman
02-12-2012, 12:26 PM
Yeah well most eye doctors and dermotologists agree with tint and a lot of people have conditions warranting it. I have macular degeneration and on my way to skin cancer so i guess i passed the examination.

Wouldn't tinted glasses serve the same purpose? What if someone else is driving the car? What if you want to sell it?

Phathog
02-12-2012, 12:38 PM
In Florida we have a medical waiver form that your doctor can sign and you can have as dark of tint as you want even on your windshield. you get it filled out and send it and 15$ to the dmv and it goes on your registration. they should have it up there. id check i have 5% on everything but the windshield

South Carolina has the same thing.
One of my drivers has a "Condition" that the state even allows the windshield to be tinted which he even did to our company truck.
He has been pulled on several occasions and the officers let him go on his merry way.

Danny33486
02-12-2012, 01:23 PM
You a slow learner? How many tickets will it take to change your mind?

I would say stubborn or gambler not a slow learner. I been stopped once in 20 years so the odds are with me. I have a week to decide what I am going to do.

kjunmarine68
02-13-2012, 04:08 AM
:mad: So, i just got a $290 ticket for my truck driver side window tint being too dark (14.8%). :banghead::banghead: I just got an inspection last week and they didn't mention it being too dark. Anyway, how difficult is it to remove? I've read about several methods just wanted some real world experience. By the way, did i say :mad::mad: yet!!!

Did you pay to have the tint measured during the inspection? If the inspection station gave you a pass, then the ticket can be dismissed. If they did not check the tint, then they are wrong yet again leagally they have to check your tint. I always hated paying for it when it was factory installed glass when I was stationed there.

What time of the day did you get the ticket? A lot of tint testers cannot get an accurate reading if at night...just a thought..

Removing the tint will also help you get that ticket to be dismissed.

I would have it re-checked on the brightest day possible, if passes, bring that to the judge. If not scrape it and bring that to the judge.

Jason

CB Haws
02-13-2012, 05:17 AM
If I was the judge even if you fixed the infraction you would still get the fine. You broke the law just "Man Up". I realize that is tough to do these days, because everyone wants to blame someone else for their problems.

rwidman
02-13-2012, 05:58 AM
If I was the judge even if you fixed the infraction you would still get the fine. You broke the law just "Man Up". I realize that is tough to do these days, because everyone wants to blame someone else for their problems.

"Man up" is a lost art these days. As you say, most folks want to put the blame on someone else.

tripleplayfishin
02-13-2012, 06:14 AM
I've been pulled over several times in FL and they usually give warning if you act dumb but respect them.

Jus Teasin
02-13-2012, 06:22 AM
I would say stubborn or gambler not a slow learner. I been stopped once in 20 years so the odds are with me. I have a week to decide what I am going to do.

Danny, do you think if you drive by the same cop again, he won't remember you?

Danny33486
02-13-2012, 07:03 AM
Danny, do you think if you drive by the same cop again, he won't remember you?

He might, he might not. I would say 35% of cars in South Florida have tint that is too dark, I also think that there are tons of Black Toyota Tachomas with dark tint in South Florida and I also think that 95% of the time City of Ft. Lauderdale PD have other things going on rather that stopping guys with dark tint. I am going to decide this week if i am just going to pay the ticket and risk it or remove it and get it lighter at some point int he future.

I know what my options are, I know know the law and I have to make a choice based on that.

I am sure that most people have gotten a speeding ticket, that did not stop them from ever speeding again?

Danny33486
02-13-2012, 07:05 AM
If I was the judge even if you fixed the infraction you would still get the fine. You broke the law just "Man Up". I realize that is tough to do these days, because everyone wants to blame someone else for their problems.

In Florida you are allowed to correct the infraction, bring proof to court and the fine will be waived.

slapshot
02-13-2012, 08:17 AM
In Florida you are allowed to correct the infraction, bring proof to court and the fine will be waived.

No you're not, it depends on the violation. If you are cited for "improper or unsafe equipment", then you can have the problem fixed, have it inspected by a LEO who signs off that it's been fixed, then you pay a slightly lower fine. But, if you are cited for the tint violation, there is no lower fine, it's the standard non moving violation fine for the county it was issued in ($116 here). Some officers may use the unsafe/improper equipment for tint, but it's not the correct charge. In some areas, the judges may dismiss the charge if you have it removed or made it legal, but there is no guarantee on that.

slapshot
02-13-2012, 08:19 AM
If I was the judge even if you fixed the infraction you would still get the fine. You broke the law just "Man Up". I realize that is tough to do these days, because everyone wants to blame someone else for their problems.

You aren't kidding!!!! They blame everyone else, they call me an a-hole for even writing a ticket, they blame the system....it goes on and on.

HartsContent
02-13-2012, 08:41 AM
That's a fact. Had a cop complain the tint on my new van windows was too dark the day I bought the truck. I pulled out the window sticker, showed him it was factory standard tinted glass, not film and suggested he might have to fight that one out with GM. He backed off.

So, my vehicle travels approximately 144 MPH "as is from the factory", I guess I can just floor it and tell the officer to "fight it out with toyota?" Really........

Danny33486
02-13-2012, 10:55 AM
No you're not, it depends on the violation. If you are cited for "improper or unsafe equipment", then you can have the problem fixed, have it inspected by a LEO who signs off that it's been fixed, then you pay a slightly lower fine. But, if you are cited for the tint violation, there is no lower fine, it's the standard non moving violation fine for the county it was issued in ($116 here). Some officers may use the unsafe/improper equipment for tint, but it's not the correct charge. In some areas, the judges may dismiss the charge if you have it removed or made it legal, but there is no guarantee on that.

Agreed - The officer that stopped me explained something along those lines. He advised to remove it take pictures, go to court and he would state no recollection or something along those lines.

slapshot
02-13-2012, 04:41 PM
Agreed - The officer that stopped me explained something along those lines. He advised to remove it take pictures, go to court and he would state no recollection or something along those lines.

That sounds about right. I have dismissed them before if I verified it has been corrected. I just want compliance, not out to punish people. I have no problem cutting people a break if they deserve it.

sealion2288
02-13-2012, 05:51 PM
Inspection Stations in NC are required to test the tinting on all after market tinted windows. They charge extra for it. If you have had a valid, current inspection, then the inspection station is at fault. Provided the windows were not tinted after the fact.

fishtale
02-14-2012, 03:33 PM
If I was the judge even if you fixed the infraction you would still get the fine. You broke the law just "Man Up". I realize that is tough to do these days, because everyone wants to blame someone else for their problems.

Where in my post did i imply i wanted "to blame someone else"? I was just venting about the $290 ticket (50 fine and 240 cost of court) especially since i didn't put the tint on, i bought it used over a year ago and it came that way (no, i didn't mention that in my OP). I also just had an inspection done and they didn't say anything (by the way, inspection report had N/A beside window tinting, i guess u do have to request to have it tested). I know ignorance of the law is not an excuse but, i didn't realize it was too dark and i thought it was a required test for inspection so, how about a warning like others have received. Results would be the same for me, remove it.

Thalasso
02-14-2012, 04:30 PM
Where in my post did i imply i wanted "to blame someone else"? I was just venting about the $290 ticket (50 fine and 240 cost of court) especially since i didn't put the tint on, i bought it used over a year ago and it came that way (no, i didn't mention that in my OP). I also just had an inspection done and they didn't say anything (by the way, inspection report had N/A beside window tinting, i guess u do have to request to have it tested). I know ignorance of the law is not an excuse but, i didn't realize it was too dark and i thought it was a required test for inspection so, how about a warning like others have received. Results would be the same for me, remove it.

Look at post #11

Laws Regarding Inspections
During a car's safety inspection, which is required by law, the North Carolina Department of Motor Vehicles (NC DMV) will look at tinted windows with a photometer. You will pay an additional $10 fee on top of the standard $27.20 safety inspection fee to make sure the window tint is within regulation.

Impatience II
02-23-2012, 03:12 PM
I just went through this in CT. Buy a clothes steamer from Target or Walmart. They are about 30 bucks. Cut a slit down the middle of the tint with a razor blade. Use the steam and the razor blade to slowly removed the tint from the window. You will get off 98% of the glue by doing it this way. Package up the clothes steamer and bring it back for a full refund. It took me about 20 minutes a window.

kjunmarine68
02-24-2012, 01:45 AM
So what was the outcome?

fishtale
02-24-2012, 05:33 AM
Haven't done anything yet but, planning to remove it and take truck to the police dept, they will test it again and give me a stmt saying i corrected the issue that i can give to the DA. Court date isn't until 5/4 and i'm a CPA so kinda busy right to deal with it. Will post final outcome when it occurs.

sailence
02-24-2012, 10:13 AM
get someone to take it off and tint it, unless you don't want it tinted again. Not worth fooling with.

rwidman
02-24-2012, 11:13 AM
....... Buy a clothes steamer from Target or Walmart. They are about 30 bucks. .................. Package up the clothes steamer and bring it back for a full refund. It took me about 20 minutes a window.

Now that's an example of honesty that you can be really proud of. :roll

Your mother didn't raise you any better than that? ;?

Shady Business
02-24-2012, 11:27 AM
I just went through this in CT. Buy a clothes steamer from Target or Walmart. They are about 30 bucks. Cut a slit down the middle of the tint with a razor blade. Use the steam and the razor blade to slowly removed the tint from the window. You will get off 98% of the glue by doing it this way. Package up the clothes steamer and bring it back for a full refund. It took me about 20 minutes a window.

F that I'll pay the damn ticket before I went through all that trouble.

I've had limo tint on my trucks the past 10 years or so. I've only had two tickets and I always just payed them and left it on. Works out to $2.50 a month to drive around with dark tint and after a long day of working in the sun it's worth it.

mduran
02-24-2012, 11:48 AM
You get some pretty stupid suggestions on THT. The trick is to understand which ones are the stupid ones and which are not.

He could have ended up in jail over that attempt to fool a judge.

What ???????? He should have just pulled his gun on the officer, and saved himself a trip to court. What in the HELL are some people thinking. This isn't brain surgery... Pay the fine, and have a tint shop remove the old and install the new. Am I missing something here ???????;?

mduran
02-24-2012, 11:53 AM
F that I'll pay the damn ticket before I went through all that trouble.

I've had limo tint on my trucks the past 10 years or so. I've only had two tickets and I always just payed them and left it on. Works out to $2.50 a month to drive around with dark tint and after a long day of working in the sun it's worth it.

I have the legal tint on my driver and passenger front door's. My driver, passenger (rear door's) and back window is limo tint.. 15 or 5 percent ( can't remeber for sure ) Are you sure it's not a "fix it ticket".. in FL, you can get a ticket for that, fix it, and pay something like 30 bucks. ANY officer can inspect and sign the ticket. You mail in with your 30 bucks, you're good ta go. If you decide NOT to fix it, pay the fine, not sure how much it is, but if you get caught AGAIN.. you could be FINED ..again.

liveaboard74
02-25-2012, 07:23 AM
Fight the ticket, and show up with friends truck (not tinted) at the court. Put your tag on it :)

I did this once and got away with it, seriously. Judge actually walked out to inspect the car. I got ticketed in 300ZX Twin Turbo coupe (black) and rolled into court hearing in friends Audi A4 sedan (black). Did not switch tags either! Judge didn't notice anything wrong

LOL
I would bet a dollar on it , it was before the offices that use to be on any force knew how to run a computer. You would not get away with that now.

Simple to remove. Take a knife or razor blade and get the edge started peeling back. It will come off in a whole sheet. Dump it in the trash can. Get a old rag and use a little gas. The sticky will come right off. Clean with window cleaner and your done. I broke a sweet reading some of you guys post. :rofl::rofl:

bbright1328
03-06-2012, 10:27 AM
I tried the suggested process below and it did not work. I used the standard 409 with a black trash bag and let it sit for 5 hours. It didn't do anything to the tint at all...maybe it has to be warmer than 68 degrees...if anyone else tried it and it worked, please let me know what you had done differently.

Thanks


The easiest way to do it...

Take a dark colored plastic garbage bag, then slit it along the seams so you have a single ply. Spray 409 (don't argue about other products having the same chemicals, blah, blah, just use 409) on the window, liberally, and then lay up the trash bag. Trim the bag so you can shut the door. Leave it in the sun for several hours. The window tint will peel right off if its not already laying on your armrest.

DoubleO7
03-06-2012, 02:45 PM
F that I'll pay the damn ticket before I went through all that trouble.

I've had limo tint on my trucks the past 10 years or so. I've only had two tickets and I always just payed them and left it on. Works out to $2.50 a month to drive around with dark tint and after a long day of working in the sun it's worth it.

Until you roll the dice too many times and get another ticket too quickly.
Some bean counter in the court system might go look up your past infractions.
Label you as a habitual offender and then your fines get doubled, tripled or license revoked, etc.



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