Trucks & Trailers - Cadillac Escalade for pulling a 15000 lb load, (short haul)

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propbender24
01-31-2012, 04:43 AM
My truck was not available and I needed to move a 38 Fountain 10 miles or so this weekend. So, I used my wifes ESV instead. It did ok for a short haul, had plenty of power but the suspension or brakes were a bit over-extended. I didn't travel over 40 mph and was very cautious.

My wife wasn't very excited about it when the trailer was lowered on the hitch. ;)


Searosis
01-31-2012, 07:01 AM
That 6.2 should be plenty of power. if you had some self leveling airbags on the rear it probably would have been a walk in the park. (assuming its 4x4) That ESV has enough weight and a long enough wheelbase to make it a safe tow.

blackdawg
01-31-2012, 07:08 AM
haha. I saw an Escalade towing a 36 YF on the Turnpike once and it had the ass end pinned to the ground just like that. I thought all Escalades had air bags? Maybe too much for the bags too?


Port Monster
01-31-2012, 08:52 AM
Subscribed - this ought to be fun!!! BTW - I tow my scarab with a Suburban and I know it is back there - you must have been white knuckling it a little.

D.Lew
01-31-2012, 09:04 AM
:rofl::rofl::rofl:, at least this has pics. :thumbsup:

MSparks909
01-31-2012, 12:24 PM
Any idea what the tongue weight is on that load? Just curious.

fireboat
01-31-2012, 04:14 PM
Yeah, I have an extended 2008 Yukon Denali and my 26 Intrepid makes the rear sag a bit. I want to get some Firestone air bags to help level.
Your wife must have thought the Escalade would never be the same after that!

JMT34
02-01-2012, 09:26 AM
Curious about the airbags as well, if they can't hold up the rear would it do any damage to them? My deck boat is about 6000 lbs (far cry from the fountain, I know), and though the milage sucks, the wife's short wheelbase Denali pulls it great. Would like to know the tongue weight as well.
Thanks again for the "evidence" pics.

propbender24
02-01-2012, 11:45 AM
The tongue weight is likely over 2000 lbs bc that trailer has the axles further back to accomodate my quad verado boat.

The escalade has airbags, but they were not able to level the load. I am pretty sure this didn't damge them. Everything drove normal when it was disconnected from the trailer.

Black Water
02-01-2012, 11:56 AM
Chris,

My issue is just trying to figure out how I can make a living in OB so I can live over there! I hate how nice it even looks in February.

Alec

bamaboy473
02-01-2012, 01:00 PM
Chris,

My issue is just trying to figure out how I can make a living in OB so I can live over there!

Alec


That's easy, just open up a shop to do suspension repairs........:rofl::rofl:

13 Rounds
02-01-2012, 01:06 PM
That 6.2 should be plenty of power. if you had some self leveling airbags on the rear it probably would have been a walk in the park. (assuming its 4x4) That ESV has enough weight and a long enough wheelbase to make it a safe tow.

He could've done it with a Rav4 no problem.

contenderv07
02-03-2012, 08:15 AM
He could've done it with a Rav4 no problem.

could have the pulled the caddy and the boat:o

Snapper Head
02-03-2012, 12:40 PM
My truck was not available and I needed to move a 38 Fountain 10 miles or so this weekend. So, I used my wifes ESV instead. It did ok for a short haul, had plenty of power but not a strong enough suspension or brakes. I didn't travel over 40 mph and was very cautious.

My wife wasn't very excited about it when the trailer was lowered on the hitch. ;)


You poor people crack me up - always doing goofy stuff:grin:


Big Al

PGM3638
02-03-2012, 01:42 PM
I have a 2005 yukon Denali and believe the towing capacity is around 8500 lbs. I just bought a 2008 28' Southport which is stated to weigh around 5800 pounds dry. I know the beam is way to wide to legally tow however do you guys think I could get away with this along with the trailer weight or would I ruin the SUV? I've never towed the boat or really plan on it just curious if the event ever presented itself.

cgrand
02-03-2012, 06:15 PM
first escalade i've ever seen without spinners and curb feelers :grin:

Garett
02-03-2012, 07:54 PM
My truck was not available and I needed to move a 38 Fountain 10 miles or so this weekend.

To move "a" 38 Fountain suggests the boat wasn't yours?

What was so damn important to move the boat that minute?

NOt your boat and transporting it illegally down a public roadway sure does make you a dumbass in my books.....unless there is a damn good reason why you would do something so stupid!? ;?

fireboat
02-03-2012, 08:16 PM
To move "a" 38 Fountain suggests the boat wasn't yours?

What was so damn important to move the boat that minute?

NOt your boat and transporting it illegally down a public roadway sure does make you a dumbass in my books.....unless there is a damn good reason why you would do something so stupid!? ;?


Jeez, give the guy a break! Propbender said he went slow and was cautious. I'm sure he knew this wasn't the ideal situation but I'm guessing there was a reason it had to be done then.

dbkerley
02-03-2012, 08:18 PM
Looks like one of those ideas Jim Beam might have suggested.

T-bone123
02-03-2012, 08:33 PM
To move "a" 38 Fountain suggests the boat wasn't yours?

What was so damn important to move the boat that minute?

NOt your boat and transporting it illegally down a public roadway sure does make you a dumbass in my books.....unless there is a damn good reason why you would do something so stupid!? ;?

You live in Scotland why the hell do you care what he did in Alabama? Wasn't that big of a deal and it is his boat he has it for sale.

rcskywalker
02-03-2012, 08:38 PM
YES! I am not alone. I am not alone.

At first I thought THTTPD was sleeping on the job. NOPE. Lights and Sirens. Saving the world one irresponsible tow at a time.

Love it! Prop, way to get it done. Hate to say it but I'm gonna enjoy any steaming piles lobbed your way.

http://www.thehulltruth.com/trucks-trailers/383630-4-6l-tundra-getting-done.html

propbender24
02-03-2012, 08:41 PM
To move "a" 38 Fountain suggests the boat wasn't yours?

What was so damn important to move the boat that minute?

NOt your boat and transporting it illegally down a public roadway sure does make you a dumbass in my books.....unless there is a damn good reason why you would do something so stupid!? ;?

This was on a 2 lane road with little traffic and maybe 2 stop lights to pass through, 35 mph most of the way. I have close to 100,000 miles towing a 38' or similar vessel so I knew what to expect. I didn't launch the boat. The boat had to be picked up from its location and my truck was in Tuscaloosa.

I own the boat and the trailer is a brand new 21,000 lb Ameritrail built for a 38.


BTW, Mr. Beam wasn't involved and this was a tongue in cheek post for THT entertainment purposes only. No, I do not recommend using a Cadillac escalade for towing this type of load. However, if you are forced to and given a cautious driver, a good trailer with brakes; the esv is capable of a short and slow haul. To each his own.

I think another fun experiment would be finding a way to get 4-6.2L cadillac engines mounted on the back of one of these boats.

Patton222
02-04-2012, 07:34 AM
Just picture all the children you passed during that 10 miles and the fact that at any given moment you could have unexpectedly lost control of the whole rig and killed all of them.

dbkerley
02-04-2012, 08:24 AM
I'm glad I didn't post any pics of me taking the Formula to the car wash behind the T100.

blackdawg
02-04-2012, 08:35 AM
I doubt it would hurt the bags but may compromise the compressor. I'd be more concerned about those flimsy 35 psi tires. I hauled a wet pallet of sod in an F150 once and the tires were mashed and felt very squirrelly in the corners even at the very low speeds I was going. 50 psi tires are what all half tons and suvs should have imo. I don't see where this was any worse than half the other stuff you see on the road. I'll take an experienced driver in a compromised rig any day over a distracted newbie in the best setup.

Patton222
02-04-2012, 08:44 AM
Well said blackdawg.

propbender24
02-04-2012, 08:55 AM
I doubt it would hurt the bags but may compromise the compressor. I'd be more concerned about those flimsy 35 psi tires. I hauled a wet pallet of sod in an F150 once and the tires were mashed and felt very squirrelly in the corners even at the very low speeds I was going. 50 psi tires are what all half tons and suvs should have imo. I don't see where this was any worse than half the other stuff you see on the road. I'll take an experienced driver in a compromised rig any day over a distracted newbie in the best setup.


I pumped the tires up to around 50psi for the haul. I keep them around 42-44 for daily driving.

Patton, not too many kids around here in February, but there are plenty of snowbirds to aim for :jk: (I have no problem with snowbirds, just my poor attempt at humor)

BTW, this was a 25-40 mph, not exactly like I was running highway speeds.

mwgoldman
02-04-2012, 09:11 AM
Patton, not too many kids around here in February, but there are plenty of snowbirds to aim for :jk: (I have no problem with snowbirds, just my poor attempt at humor)



man, my parents live down there ease up j/k

change of subject but whose 38 is setting up in daphne at the U-haul? I think I remember you having that one for sale at one point. Passing that thing everyday is giving me the bug big time. Looks like Ill have to wait until I get a new truck to tow with though.

propbender24
02-04-2012, 09:26 AM
man, my parents live down there ease up j/k

change of subject but whose 38 is setting up in daphne at the U-haul? I think I remember you having that one for sale at one point. Passing that thing everyday is giving me the bug big time. Looks like Ill have to wait until I get a new truck to tow with though.


Hey Matt,

I previously owned that 38 and sold it to a friend of mine. He is getting married and has it for sale. Its a nice boat. 2007 38 open with trip 275 verados.

Congrats on the baby girl! Getting any sleep? Kai is already 6 months, it sure flies by.

mwgoldman
02-04-2012, 10:19 AM
she's sitting on my shoulder as I type, 4 weeks yesterday, its interesting, I'm pretty good with dealing with little sleep from work but mom is having to put up with most of it. Its hard to believe yours is already 6 months.

I figured you had the baby and got a new boat at the same time, so Im spending my time around the house looking right now.

hesterrp
02-08-2012, 12:26 PM
I have a 2005 yukon Denali and believe the towing capacity is around 8500 lbs. I just bought a 2008 28' Southport which is stated to weigh around 5800 pounds dry. I know the beam is way to wide to legally tow however do you guys think I could get away with this along with the trailer weight or would I ruin the SUV? I've never towed the boat or really plan on it just curious if the event ever presented itself.


5800 lbs is the dry weight without motors. I tow a 26 SP, about 6000lb dry with 2 Yamaha F250s. Add weight of triple axle trailer, gas, gear, etc, and it gets pretty heavy. I tow it with a Ford F250 and it does well, but would not be real happy towing it with anything less any significant distance.

martynmac
02-08-2012, 12:33 PM
THT truck and trailer forum has become worse than a DOT inspection:bashhh:

muskamoot
02-08-2012, 01:23 PM
That right there is why we have equalizer hitches. Putting 2000-2500 lbs on the rear axle is asking for failure.

slper
02-08-2012, 04:22 PM
This was on a 2 lane road with little traffic and maybe 2 stop lights to pass through, 35 mph most of the way. I have close to 100,000 miles towing a 38' or similar vessel so I knew what to expect. I didn't launch the boat. The boat had to be picked up from its location and my truck was in Tuscaloosa.

I own the boat and the trailer is a brand new 21,000 lb Ameritrail built for a 38.


BTW, Mr. Beam wasn't involved and this was a tongue in cheek post for THT entertainment purposes only. No, I do not recommend using a Cadillac escalade for towing this type of load. However, if you are forced to and given a cautious driver, a good trailer with brakes; the esv is capable of a short and slow haul. To each his own.

I think another fun experiment would be finding a way to get 4-6.2L cadillac engines mounted on the back of one of these boats.

I'm starting to see more and more negitive posts be this Garet guy. He always has something to say. Get a grip dude! Life is to short. If you would spend the time reading posts and paying attention you would know he owns the boat and it's for sell. Don't a douche nozzle to people on here.

redfishray
02-08-2012, 04:45 PM
Good job Prop, I would have done the same thing. It cracks me up to read all the scary BS people post everytime someone mentions doing something like you did. .....calling you stupid...your gonna kill babies... get a grip amatures! Could yall tow the boat with an Escalade? Probably not, because you probably cant tow anything. If I had to guess, you sit boatless on the internet and wanna be a person that tows a 38 Fountain....:grin:

Lowe170
02-08-2012, 07:45 PM
Originally Posted by 13 Rounds
He could've done it with a Rav4 no problem.

could have the pulled the caddy and the boat:o

C'mon guys, don't knock the Rav4, it pulls my yacht no problem! This thread is a lot like the one about the Rav4 pulling a 7K# load...

v70cat
02-09-2012, 05:53 AM
Just picture all the children you passed during that 10 miles and the fact that at any given moment you could have unexpectedly lost control of the whole rig and killed all of them.


Really?

AJ323
02-19-2012, 08:45 AM
It's your experience and driving below 40mph that avoided any problems. I know someone who tried to tow his 35 Donzi with an Escalade up to Miami from the Florida Keys. The Donzi ended belly up on the side of the road on the Florida turnpike. It was posted on the hull truth last year.

Patton222
02-19-2012, 11:42 AM
Really?

What do you think? No not really, sarcasm. As stated somewhere before I would trust an experienced driver overloaded more than inexperience with the right equipment. I pulled loads with my old f150 that people on here would give me hell for but I am not an idiot and did it in the safest manner possible. 170k plus hard miles on and off road on that truck before I sold it and it's still running strong years later.

fldmax
02-19-2012, 01:17 PM
I use my 2010 Tahoe 4 wheel drive to launch my 290 with. Does great. Air bags do just as designed. They hold hold up fine. Towing down the road 5 blocks to ramp and back is no big deal. Did same with the 2007 so yes it can be done. Is it safe. Sure if you use commom sense doing it. I ain't going far and no traffic lights etc.

fldmax
02-19-2012, 01:19 PM
I use my 2010 Tahoe 4 wheel drive to launch my 290 with. Does great. Air bags do just as designed. They hold hold up fine. Towing down the road 5 blocks to ramp and back is no big deal. Did same with the 2007 so yes it can be done. Is it safe. Sure if you use commom sense doing it. I ain't going far and no traffic lights etc. Flame on. I can handle it

magua
02-20-2012, 04:19 PM
I'm starting to see more and more negitive posts be this Garet guy. He always has something to say. Get a grip dude! Life is to short. If you would spend the time reading posts and paying attention you would know he owns the boat and it's for sell. Don't a douche nozzle to people on here.

I have noticed a change as well. Dude is seriously stressing. Seems to want to bomb many of the latest threads.

1998 proline 241
02-20-2012, 04:58 PM
God Damn there are so many haters. It was a one (or 2:grin:) time thing and he said he was only going like 35mph the whole time. Some of you "guys" need to step out of your little safety bubble and go live it up a little.:bashhh:

v70cat
02-21-2012, 03:09 PM
What do you think? No not really, sarcasm. As stated somewhere before I would trust an experienced driver overloaded more than inexperience with the right equipment. I pulled loads with my old f150 that people on here would give me hell for but I am not an idiot and did it in the safest manner possible. 170k plus hard miles on and off road on that truck before I sold it and it's still running strong years later.

Sorry but for THT it seemed normal.



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