The Sports Forum - Urban Meyer signs on with Ohio State

What a catch for OSU. His signing has already resulted in a top FLA high school wide receiver pledging to play for OSU.

I know that he will not lead the team to a BCS national championship game in the next 1,2 or 3 years but he will certainly bring the team to a consistent top 5 ranking for years to come.

After all the bad news about the football team this past year this is great news.

BTW: I understand the team will refuse to play in a bowl game (a 6-6 team) if selected to play. But if they do indeed get selected to play against Florida and the team goes it is also rumored that Meyer will not coach that game (good call).

$6 million per year - 7 year contract: He'd better bring some talent in fast!
That places him as the highest paid NCAAF coach. I'm sure the + + + benefits are significant too....

I can't believe there aren't Congressional hearing on Capital Hill about the "excessive" pay of college coaches. Heck, Coach Beamer is a deal in comparison to the 15+ coaches that are paid much more.

Go Hokies!

Ive always felt like the guy was a shady dude and even a liar at times. "im retiring for a significant period of time so that i can be with my family which i have neglected".............ha well i guess his family's value is somewhere less than $42 million! Thats the guy i want as my coach.......what a .......

Thought he had "health issues", think was more he saw UF was out of talent and going down hill in a hurry

But that is a lot of money

Now wonder how he will react when the NCAA sanctions finally come down on OSU

With all that said he will put them back on top very quickly, like him or not he knows how to make a college team win

Ive always felt like the guy was a shady dude and even a liar at times. "im retiring for a significant period of time so that i can be with my family which i have neglected".............ha well i guess his family's value is somewhere less than $42 million! Thats the guy i want as my coach.......what a .......

Since he won 2 NC and his Timmy left and his recruiting class wasnt all that...it was a great time to spend with family;) Atleast we dont have to listen to his analysis no more...Shwew

Good time to take charge at OSU....now that Penn State is screwed in recruiting they will raid Pennsylvania talent as well as the usual places they own.

Just remember that Michigan beat the Meyer/Tebow combination in a bowl game when no one gave them a chance. I think that was Tebow's only bowl loss and Lloyd Carr's final game. Meyer should be interesting in the conference and at OSU. In my opinion the conference needs an overhaul. They do not stack up well against SEC and PAC 10 teams in the bowls.

He is a great recruiter. Heck, he had Tebow and Cam Newton at the same time.

I wonder how the gaytornation feels about this

I wonder how the gaytornation feels about this

I think he ought to do what he said he needed to do...

Oh well, so much for the truth...

The contract is 4 million per year for 6 years...same $$$ as when he was at UF.

As a proud UF alum, and a realistic one, I knew he would coach again. Didn't expect it to be one year later. Disappointing, yes....but the Gator Nation will move on and be just fine.....

As a proud UF alum, and a realistic one, I knew he would coach again. Didn't expect it to be one year later. Disappointing, yes....but the Gator Nation will move on and be just fine.....




Little OT but just curious if the new HC is who ya"ll wanted or was there others that would have been a better fit;?

OSU gonna whoop dat ass

Little OT but just curious if the new HC is who ya"ll wanted or was there others that would have been a better fit;?

Muschamp will do just fine....it's an entirely different scheme....If you are going to run off tackle, you need guys who can block. This offensive line is, in a word, "offensive".

The defense is solid and there are plenty of young studs that are going to be REALLY good (Powell, Floyd, Easley come to mind)....the jury is still out on Weis as an OC though....the play calling is suspect...the receivers run straight down the field and make no effort to get open....

Someone noted that if FL had punted on first down in every series, the FSU game would have gone to overtime.... :rofl:

Will Urban Meyer have to wear a silly sweater vest like the last OSU head coach?

Has Meyer started emphasising the word "The" in front of Ohio State University yet?

Did Meyer take the job to be closer to his man crush, Tebow?

Will Meyer get lazy coaching at a school that has a creampuff schedule every year?

Will Urban Meyer have to wear a silly sweater vest like the last OSU head coach?

Has Meyer started emphasising the word "The" in front of Ohio State University yet?

Did Meyer take the job to be closer to his man crush, Tebow?

Will Meyer get lazy coaching at a school that has a creampuff schedule every year?

Its kind of ironic all the smack talk about Urban myer between FSU/UF when urbie was in gainsville it kind of backed up the Noles on this one. Urban Myer left UF in a mess and he knew it. The whole family medical crap was a ruse to get out of a contract. Becareful OSU the guy has a great track record of baggin ass when times get tough.

Gee, I thought that the UF "family" and all the bs he spouted at his farewell news conference actually was true. Bet he and nick sabin have a lot to talk about.

Its kind of ironic all the smack talk about Urban myer between FSU/UF when urbie was in gainsville it kind of backed up the Noles on this one. Urban Myer left UF in a mess and he knew it. The whole family medical crap was a ruse to get out of a contract. Becareful OSU the guy has a great track record of baggin ass when times get tough.

he left because of high anxiety and panic attacks. Supposedly he has that under control now.

Gee, I thought that the UF "family" and all the bs he spouted at his farewell news conference actually was true. Bet he and nick sabin have a lot to talk about.

He's a Buckeye LONG before he is a Gator. Sorry. Born and raised in Ohio. Started his career at OSU, and then followed Earle Bruce around for a few years. Has a degree from OSU.

I agree that he did leave UF worse off talent wise than he found it, however as a gator fan I have no bad feelings toward Meyer. He was a hired gun from outside of the program and did everything he was expected to do (beat rivals, win championships). I do not expect him to have the same success at OSU, although his path to BCS games will be much easier competition wise.

Will Urban Meyer have to wear a silly sweater vest like the last OSU head coach? In order to win a NC, yes

Has Meyer started emphasising the word "The" in front of Ohio State University yet? Well, that is the proper name

Did Meyer take the job to be closer to his man crush, Tebow? Geography, how does it work?

Will Meyer get lazy coaching at a school that has a creampuff schedule every year?:trout:

I do not expect him to have the same success at OSU,
Yeah because the only guys OSU can get are fat, slow, white kids from the midwest right? :bashhh:

I hope he seriously turns that program around and makes it to the BCS title game next year where OSU will suffer a beat down by LSU or Bama or UF or Auburn or Tenn or KY or South Carolina or GA etc....with the talent the gators had when they were winning, lady Gaga could have coached them to a championship....

I hope he seriously turns that program around and makes it to the BCS title game next year where OSU will suffer a beat down by LSU or Bama or UF or Auburn or Tenn or KY or South Carolina or GA etc....with the talent the gators had when they were winning, lady Gaga could have coached them to a championship....

Like the beatdown Arkansas gave OSU in January?

Like the beatdown Arkansas gave OSU in January?

According to the NCAA, last season never took place for THE OSU.....:roll

According to the NCAA, last season never took place for THE OSU.....:roll

Actually, according to OSU, they forfeited all wins.

I still believe that OSU beat Arkansas on the field yes. :bashhh::bashhh::bashhh::bashhh:

Actually, according to OSU, they forfeited all wins.

I still believe that OSU beat Arkansas on the field yes. :bashhh::bashhh::bashhh::bashhh:

Even if you do count it, your Buckeyes still have to win 8 straight vs the SEC to hit .500 in bowl games.:grin::grin::grin:

There is no doubt that the SEC is the best conference in NCAA college football. All OSU fans are hoping for is that Urban will help raise the team to the SEC performance standards through coaching and recruiting.;cool;

Too bad so many of you guys like to piss on someone else's parade with no good reason for doing so.;?

OCJ.....best to just let it go.:thumbsup:

Congrats to OSU, he is a good coach. There was no way he would stay out of coaching. It is a good fit and he definitely has an easier path to a NC game now.

Geaux Tigers.

He is a dick.. not a gator fan whatsoever actually OSU fan and I hate that dude. He has done this 3 or 4 times now. Goes into a school and uses the prior coaches recruits to win or at least play decent, then jets leaving the team with nothing.
Example the gators. They suck

He got well fast. OSU will cruise through their weak arse schedule and lose their bowl game. Yawn. Who cares. Corn fed yankees.

He's knee-deep in lies and hypocrisy -- his "retirement for family" was a bunch of crap. He even lied last week by saying "I haven't been offered a deal with OSU" when he clearly had, a bald-face lie. But, he'll make the OSU program better, no doubt.

Just don't harbor any child-molestors on your staff, and you'll have a good run, Urban.

He got well fast. OSU will cruise through their weak arse schedule and lose their bowl game. Yawn. Who cares. Corn fed yankees.

OSU is tied for most BCS wins

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He's knee-deep in lies and hypocrisy -- his "retirement for family" was a bunch of crap. He even lied last week by saying "I haven't been offered a deal with OSU" when he clearly had, a bald-face lie. But, he'll make the OSU program better, no doubt.

Just don't harbor any child-molestors on your staff, and you'll have a good run, Urban.

He wasn't offered until Sunday....


DUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRR

Lots of idiots in here.... must be that great SEC learnin

BTW: I understand the team will refuse to play in a bowl game (a 6-6 team) if selected to play. But if they do indeed get selected to play against Florida and the team goes it is also rumored that Meyer will not coach that game (good call).

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HaHa fun thread. Don't have a dog in this hunt, I'm a West Virginia fan but watch a lot of college football.
Some thoughts:
-Meyer won at florida with Zooks' recruits (1st nt) . Do ya think Zook could've won the NT with the same recruits?
-Meyer won his second NT with HIS recruits. HE recruited Tebow. Meyer is a solid coach.
-Meyer had EXCELLENT recruiting classes at UF, he did not leave the cupboard empty.
-In my OPINION, Meyer left Florida because he could'nt handle the pressure of coaching in the SEC.
-The SEC is definitely the best conference. But, it's not the best by that much
SEC fans. Ohio State has talent and could compete in the SEC (east or west). OOOH, there I said it!
Urban Meyer is a good choice for HC at OSU, but does he really think the pressure to win will be less there? Don't think so...

I'm a Gator fan. I have no problem with Urban Meyer doing what he needs, or feels he needs to do, for his family, for himself, for whomever...BUT JUST TELL THE TRUTH, DUDE!!!

Or is that like, too uncollegiate?;?;?:trout::trout:

I think having played under coach Meyer at Florida I should chime in on the whole situation.

I am happy for him and I don't think anyone should have any beef with this and here is why:
1. He did not leave the cupboard dry... see Matt Elam, Shariff Flloyd, Ronald Powell (nations # 1 recruit) etc etc.
2. He gave the Gator fans 2 national championships
3. He left at the best possible time for the University so that they could manage a decent recruiting class last year. Would it have been better for him to leave Florida and go straight to Ohio State? NO
4. We live in a Capitalist country correct... as I said good for him!
5. He did not go to a rival in the SEC
6. The man can't live without football... it would be like anyone of you giving up fishing for a year
7. I can honestly say the man had health issues. I watched the man deteriorate before my eyes. He aged 10 years during his 5 at Florida.
8. If you have followed Urban Meyer at all you would know his two dream jobs were Ohio State and Notre Dame. I think he planned on taking a few years off to charge his batteries (pun intended) and one of his "dream jobs" happen to be made available sooner rather than later.

IMO Urban Meyer left because he kept losing his staff to other jobs, the NFL and head coaching gigs. Mean while he was stuck dealing with the things he hated most about Florida and college football; dealing with and being responsible for 115 18-22 yr old men/boys. I would estimate 50% of Urban's time was spent dealing with player issues and not football. Carlos Dunlop falling asleep at a traffic light, drunk, the week of the SEC championship almost gave the man a heart attack.

Cut the man some slack, anyone would take their dream job for 40 million. He had his time at Florida and he made the most of it.

I might as well state the obvious while I am at it... Urb will be in the national Championship game in the next 2 years.

I could go on all night.

I think having played under coach Meyer at Florida I should chime in on the whole situation.


Question, who calls plays in an Urban Meyer offense? How involved in the offense is he?

laythewood-I think you are correct on most accounts, however:

Florida is very weak this year at O-line and receiver. I believe a lot of this is due to 4 star guys that just didn't pan out for whatever reason. We have also had a lot of attrition-I think there were something like 4 redshirts given this year since all the young guys were needed because of lack of scholarship athletes. Muschamp has room for a full 25 scholarship class to recruit for next fall, I think he'll bring in some good ones.

I agree the job took a toll on his health, however Ohio State is similar to Florida in what their fans expect from their Football team. I hope he has a full recovery and is able to put in those long weeks again but I have my doubts. I think it will be longer than 2 years to get to the national champ game because he is going to loose some scholarships thru no fault of his own due to NCAA probation. Also may not be bowl eligible for a year or so but who knows.

I wish him the best, he did everything we asked him to do at Florida.

Question, who calls plays in an Urban Meyer offense? How involved in the offense is he?

Its a joint effort between the Offensive Coordinator, and the other offensive coaches. There is alot of dialog that takes place on the head sets. However, Urban has the final say on each and every play that gets called. Usually the coaches are on the same page so he doesn't have to flex his veto power all that often.

Urban has the most control over the special teams units.

What people need to keep in mind as far as his offense is that it is constantly changing and evolving. He has had an entire year to sit back and watch football, studying and analyzing what some of the best offenses are doing around the country.

He will also be able to recruit the players necessary to dominate the Big Ten. The collection of talent was unheard of during his time at Florida, just look at NFL rosters. People also forget that Cam Newton was a third string QB at Florida.

Dude is a winner, I wouldn't bet against him. And I am sure he accpeted the job after being reassured that there will be no major sanctions in the future.

[QUOTE=Florida is very weak this year at O-line and receiver. I believe a lot of this is due to 4 star guys that just didn't pan out for whatever reason.

I agree the job took a toll on his health, however Ohio State is similar to Florida in what their fans expect from their Football team. QUOTE]


The O-Line is obviosuly the biggest weakness, which has been largely the result of guys not working out and getting hurt. We also missed on some recruits in this aspect.

As far as the reciever position, we had some big name recruits but they have been terrible. Andre Debose is no Percy Harvin. Deonte Thompson 5 start bust. I forget the kids name but he was a 5 star and transferred after his first year. And the list of four star busts is endless- Patton, Hammon, Alli, etc.

The Ohio State job is a dream compared to Florida because the ease of schdule. He also doesn't have to deal with the premaddona recruits that come out of South Florida with entitlement problems. He will get the typical Ohio State recruits up north and cherry pick the rest of the country for the play makers necessary to win.

He wasn't offered until Sunday....


DUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRR

Hopefully you're just being sarcastic... but then again, it's hard to tell since you're from Ohio.

If you do indeed believe that, I have an old bridge connecting Manhattan to Brooklyn that I'll sell ya.

I guess it doesn't matter...

As an objective outsider (I'm not an SEC or Big Ten fan) -- I think this guy is clearly a low-character person. A liar. And a hypocrite -- since he acts like he's an ethicist and moralist.

Whatever... it doesn't matter until you get burned. Maybe you won't.

Hopefully you're just being sarcastic... but then again, it's hard to tell since you're from Ohio.

If you do indeed believe that, I have an old bridge connecting Manhattan to Brooklyn that I'll sell ya.

I guess it doesn't matter...

As an objective outsider (I'm not an SEC or Big Ten fan) -- I think this guy is clearly a low-character person. A liar. And a hypocrite -- since he acts like he's an ethicist and moralist.

Whatever... it doesn't matter until you get burned. Maybe you won't.

I have direct knowledge that he was not officially offered until Sunday.

I have direct knowledge that he was not officially offered until Sunday.

Okay, "officially" -- I'll buy that. But, isn't this all semantics. The guy clearly was offered and accepted the job "unofficially" before that. Maybe OSU shouldn't have leaked it, then he wouldn't have had to deny the story last week.

My latest crusade is liars and lying. Too much of it in our country right now. Sends the wrong message to kids (and isn't that what being a school coach is all about?)

Sick of it. ;?

Okay, "officially" -- I'll buy that. But, isn't this all semantics. The guy clearly was offered and accepted the job "unofficially" before that. Maybe OSU shouldn't have leaked it, then he wouldn't have had to deny the story last week.

My latest crusade is liars and lying. Too much of it in our country right now. Sends the wrong message to kids (and isn't that what being a school coach is all about?)

Sick of it. ;?

He was never unofficially offered the job either.

Its a joint effort between the Offensive Coordinator, and the other offensive coaches. There is alot of dialog that takes place on the head sets. However, Urban has the final say on each and every play that gets called. Usually the coaches are on the same page so he doesn't have to flex his veto power all that often.

Urban has the most control over the special teams units.

What people need to keep in mind as far as his offense is that it is constantly changing and evolving. He has had an entire year to sit back and watch football, studying and analyzing what some of the best offenses are doing around the country.

He will also be able to recruit the players necessary to dominate the Big Ten. The collection of talent was unheard of during his time at Florida, just look at NFL rosters. People also forget that Cam Newton was a third string QB at Florida.

Dude is a winner, I wouldn't bet against him. And I am sure he accpeted the job after being reassured that there will be no major sanctions in the future.


A lot of people around here think that Meyer will call most of the plays on offense.

So we are to believe that there wasn't anything on the table prior to Sunday? Work out a deal on a $40m + job, at a school that likely has some further sactions coming it's way, and a coach that retired due to health all in one day? It's not like he was hired at the 7-11. Logic dictates that this has been in the works for some time and it's likely that he was offered and accepted well before Sunday. Hopefully he was just doing his best to not interrupt their biggest game of the year (GO BLUE!).

He's a great hire. I am a Michigan guy and love the fact that these two programs are heading back where they should be. Remember, everything runs in a cycle and while the SEC has the top teams now, the B1G has some solid and promising programs. This is good for the conference and good for THE GAME.

So we are to believe that there wasn't anything on the table prior to Sunday? Work out a deal on a $40m + job, at a school that likely has some further sactions coming it's way, and a coach that retired due to health all in one day? It's not like he was hired at the 7-11. Logic dictates that this has been in the works for some time and it's likely that he was offered and accepted well before Sunday. Hopefully he was just doing his best to not interrupt their biggest game of the year (GO BLUE!).

He's a great hire. I am a Michigan guy and love the fact that these two programs are heading back where they should be. Remember, everything runs in a cycle and while the SEC has the top teams now, the B1G has some solid and promising programs. This is good for the conference and good for THE GAME.

You don't even have his deal right, so why should I pay attention to anything you say? 6 years $24 million.

I'll also bet you $$ that OSU gets no futher sanctions.

To clear up a few things.

I have known for months that Urban was going to Ohio State, so for anyone who thinks this happend on Sunday is naive.

Urban has had an OC in mind

He is not a "Low-character" person. People have a hard time looking at the big picture. The man loves football and couldn't do it any longer at Florida for MANY reasons. He tried the TV thing, but knowing Urb, he hated it. An opportunity provided itself and if he didn't take it he might regret it later; these type of "dream jobs" don't open up all that often.

Florida fans disgust me. The man did alot for our program and he has MOVED ON. Good for him. Better to leave early rather than stay anywhere to long and end up getting fired. We live in a what have you done for me lately society and Urb is taking advantage of it. He is not a dumb person and congratulations to him for doing what makes him happy, while staying relevant, while making 40 million dollars.

There are worse things going on in college football these days, get over it. How is Penn State doing? Its amazing how LSU has Jordan Jefferson as there starter again after he kicked another human being in the head only a few months ago; any other citizen would still be in jail.

To clear up a few things.

I have known for months that Urban was going to Ohio State, so for anyone who thinks this happend on Sunday is naive.
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Heavy duty boosters and people close to the BoT had been contacting him. Official talks by admins and BoT didn't start till later last Wed in Atlanta. Contract talks started Saturday and he was officially offered on Sunday. He literally was not in contact with anyone who could do any type of hiring until last Sunday when Gene Smith called him.

]while making 40 million dollars.

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Once again, he is making $24 million

You don't even have his deal right, so why should I pay attention to anything you say? 6 years $24 million.

I'll also bet you $$ that OSU gets no futher sanctions.

You don't have to pay attention to anything I say. I'll still manage somehow.

I was going off the initial reports on ESPN of a reported 7 year $40m. I haven't really followed it since I don't have an overwhelming desire to know the details. But it's actually 5 years $24m with $2.4m available as retention payments. There are performance incentives that will be in place for the full staff and there are perks beyond the physical salary. So you're not exactly dead on either. Here are the details (http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/33581501)

As far as further sanctions, I'm not about to bet $$ with anyone online but I'll do this.

If O$U gets further sanctions from the NCAA, I'll put something along the lines of "I wouldn't argue with that OCLJ fella because he's just too smart"

If they don't get further sanctions you'll put "I wouldn't argue with that Insteada fella because he's just too smart"

What do you say? I'm game if you are.

OCLJ -- I respect that you have some inside information on this. That being said, you expect us to believe that this deal came together in a day -- and was inked, signed, vetted and press-released within a few hours? :lol:

Then, why was it leaked last week?

The only conclusion -- knowing how complicated this deal was, how long most negotiations tend to play out, and how long it takes for most men to make "big, life-changing decisions" that affect their family -- is that this thing has been in the works for months.

That's fine.

But, just don't lie to us.

You don't have to pay attention to anything I say. I'll still manage somehow.

I was going off the initial reports on ESPN of a reported 7 year $40m. I haven't really followed it since I don't have an overwhelming desire to know the details. But it's actually 5 years $24m with $2.4m available as retention payments. There are performance incentives that will be in place for the full staff and there are perks beyond the physical salary. So you're not exactly dead on either. Here are the details (http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/33581501)

As far as further sanctions, I'm not about to bet $$ with anyone online but I'll do this.

If O$U gets further sanctions from the NCAA, I'll put something along the lines of "I wouldn't argue with that OCLJ fella because he's just too smart"

If they don't get further sanctions you'll put "I wouldn't argue with that Insteada fella because he's just too smart"

What do you say? I'm game if you are.

I'll agree to that. Seeing as how Gene Smith is the one who has always instituted the self penalties and has held high positions not only in the NCAA, but on the infractions committee. Basically, while he has screwed a lot of things up, this is one thing most people trust him on.

I'll agree to that. Seeing as how Gene Smith is the one who has always instituted the self penalties and has held high positions not only in the NCAA, but on the infractions committee. Basically, while he has screwed a lot of things up, this is one thing most people trust him on.

Ok. So the details, assuming you agree:

OSU has self imposed. Those aren't part of this. I am saying the NCAA will impose more. If they do you copy and paste the line about how smart I am into your sig. Keep it there for a year?

If there aren't other NCAA sanctions, then I'll copy and paste the line about how smart you are and keep it there for a year.

Good?

For the record, I think there will be a further loss of scholarships and that's about it. But that is still further sanctions, right?

And don't get me wrong, I am a Michigan guy and definitely don't like OSU, but I do think you guys landed a great hire. Should keep things interesting. I just hope they treat Fickell with the respect he deserves after everything he has done to keep them on the right track.

OCLJ -- I respect that you have some inside information on this. That being said, you expect us to believe that this deal came together in a day -- and was inked, signed, vetted and press-released within a few hours? :lol: #1 it couldn't be signed until Monday because of state laws with job postings. #2 the negotiations started Wednesday night during his interview in Atlanta after his daughter's Volleyball game. They picked up again after his father's funeral on Friday in Ohio and he came straight to Columbus to finish up. He was basically offered what Tressel was set to receive this year + a few concessions. The sticking point was admissions for 5* athletes who do not meet OSU's requirements

Then, why was it leaked last week? Because Gene Smith was leaving to go to Atlanta to see him

No lies. No one from OSU contacted him till the 20th

Ok. So the details, assuming you agree:

OSU has self imposed. Those aren't part of this. I am saying the NCAA will impose more. If they do you copy and paste the line about how smart I am into your sig. Keep it there for a year?

If there aren't other NCAA sanctions, then I'll copy and paste the line about how smart you are and keep it there for a year.

Good?

For the record, I think there will be a further loss of scholarships and that's about it. But that is still further sanctions, right? Correct

And don't get me wrong, I am a Michigan guy and definitely don't like OSU, but I do think you guys landed a great hire. Should keep things interesting. I just hope they treat Fickell with the respect he deserves after everything he has done to keep them on the right track.
He has been retained at his $750k salary as assistant head coach and d-line coach and prob co d coord

They picked up again after his father's funeral on Friday in Ohio and he came straight to Columbus to finish up.

I didn't know that Bud had died, wow. He was a real character. For the Buckeye fans on here you should read some of the stuff out there about Urban's upbringing, pretty insane.

He was really close with his father and I am sure with him being sick and finally passing it may have played a role in Urban wanted to be back in Ohio. His sister lives up there and they are very close as well (He named his daughter after her).

Damn OCLJ - You're the only one keeping this thread alive. Corn fed yankees. lol

Ok. but I do think you guys landed a great hire.

Thanks for stating the obvious.

I am a Michigan/State fan have been for years obviously and I dare query;

if this guy would have available when they ran Rich Rod off do you think Hoke would be at the helm in Ann Arbor. Timing is everything and OSU has benefited greatly.

OSU will be a thorn in the side of the Big Ten and U of M for many years to come. What he does more than anything else for the Big Ten is bring a real contender for a NC rather than just a Big Ten Champ that gets trucked in a bowl game.

I will be watching how many verbals to Michigan/State reconsider. That in itself should be a good indicator as to how long it will take him to right the course.

if this guy would have available when they ran Rich Rod off do you think Hoke would be at the helm in Ann Arbor. Timing is everything and OSU has benefited greatly.



I don't exactly recall the timing, but I do think Hoke was hired after Urban was out there, but I doubt anyone was talking to Urban since he retired due to health issues. Do I think Michigan would have talked to Urban? Sure. I think everyone would have but with his OSU roots and Notre Dame aspirations, I doubt he would have come.

OCLJ - ready to honor that bet?

I don't exactly recall the timing, but I do think Hoke was hired after Urban was out there, but I doubt anyone was talking to Urban since he retired due to health issues. Do I think Michigan would have talked to Urban? Sure. I think everyone would have but with his OSU roots and Notre Dame aspirations, I doubt he would have come.

OCLJ - ready to honor that bet?

by available I mean interested in coaching again, He was working for ESPN at the time and had kaboshed more than one rumored coaching job long before he signed with the Buckeyes.

OCLJ - ready to honor that bet?

I'm guessing you are busy with the holidays and all.

I'm guessing you are busy with the holidays and all.

Very, very busy.

Very, very busy.

Well.....I Easter is a holiday as well. Very, very busy.