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bwhaler240
04-16-2011, 01:21 PM
Hey All

Keep hearing that I should have my tuna rod/reel setups attached to the boat somehow..Can any of you suggest the best ways of doing this? Is there a product designed for this, or is it something I should make on my own with my line splicing skills?


Joe Belletti
04-16-2011, 01:33 PM
You are kidding, right ?

You are going tuna fishing and you don't know how to secure your rod and reel to you boat ?????

SimonFL
04-16-2011, 01:33 PM
I use Penn 30/50/80 VSW's. I made reel tethers. stainless steel shackles at the reel end (can be released quickly). 12' foot of cord that I tie off to a cleat. must confess,... I don't use them...


bluefishjim
04-16-2011, 03:10 PM
Try this, you can make your own, it's well worth it.
Last season I lost a Penn torque 300 on a stand up rod that was not tied off.

bwhaler240
04-16-2011, 03:20 PM
You are kidding, right ?

You are going tuna fishing and you don't know how to secure your rod and reel to you boat ?????

Hey, were you born knowing every thing in existence? I don't think so buddy. What is the point of this this forum? Not to ask questions? Oh sorry. My mistake. Get a life and a clue.

I'd rather be properly rigged then not have the right equipment. When my friend who is guiding me with tuna fishing comes, I'm trying to have everything I'll need. Thanks for your thoughtful, and very helpful input, a**hole.

try again
04-16-2011, 03:29 PM
Most people will answer your question if they can on this forum. Don't give up because you
will get the right answer if you keep trying.

bwhaler240
04-16-2011, 03:45 PM
Most people will answer your question if they can on this forum. Don't give up because you
will get the right answer if you keep trying.

There are mostly good people on here, just a few nasty ones that have no place on this planet. Thanks :)

Esuomm1
04-16-2011, 03:48 PM
Hey, were you born knowing every fucking thing in existence? I don't think so buddy. What is the point of this this forum? Not to ask questions? Oh sorry. My mistake. Get a life and a clue.

I'd rather be properly rigged then not have the right equipment. When my friend who is guiding me with tuna fishing comes, I'm trying to have everything I'll need. Thanks for your thoughtful, and very helpful input, asshole.

Love it, good for you. Everyone's gotta start somewhere amigo and most of us are happy to help out anyway we can. I made my own with some stainless clamps. Rarely, rarely use them.

Good luck,

J

bwhaler240
04-16-2011, 03:53 PM
Love it, good for you. Everyone's gotta start somewhere amigo and most of us are happy to help out anyway we can. I made my own with some stainless clamps. Rarely, rarely use them.

Good luck,

J

Thank you. After busting a bunch of $$ on rods + reels I just want to make sure they're secure!

bumster
04-16-2011, 04:06 PM
BW welcome to THT.

Clear Solution
04-16-2011, 04:06 PM
Ive never seen one leave the leaning post whie in the water, up on top of the hardtop, yes.

I keep everything down low(easier for rigging as well) and out of the gunnels if I can help it, saltwater will get in the frame bigtime when running.

Also make sure your rodholders are bolted and backed.

few people actually use safetylines for tuna fishing, atleast for the normal grade of fish (100# or less).

Pez Vela
04-16-2011, 04:27 PM
It's hard to know what was meant by what you've "heard," about securing your weaponry, but one common situation for using safety lines comes into play when you're using outriggers. The potential exists for the rod holders to be magically transformed into "rocket launchers" if the outrigger release fails. My safety lines consist of some parachute cord tied to the base of the rod holder and then attached to one of the lugs on each reel with a quick release clip. As stated, for flat line trolling, no safety line is normally used.

bwhaler240
04-16-2011, 04:46 PM
Great info guys. Thanks a lot.

1997MAKO231
04-16-2011, 04:59 PM
I run TLD 50s - use halfsized dock rope looped though the reel case and tied off to the nearest cleat. Works for me and does the job just fine.

Seamus Day
04-16-2011, 05:02 PM
Great info guys. Thanks a lot.

I just use about twelve feet of 3/8" soft nylon with a small SS snaplock on one end and a small caribbeaner on the other with a small eye splice at each end.

One end snaps on the reel ring, the other to something secure on the boat; like a cleat. I made these up myself in an houror so one rainy day and cost about $6 each. Most of the major tackle dealers sell them, some as webbing straps. You are taking the right approach though, better to be safe than sorry. The only tip is to use limp rope so that it hangs loosley out of the way. Good luck.

LI32
04-16-2011, 05:27 PM
Get yourself a bunch of 1/4" braid and matching snaps with the ring eye in them. Online Stainless Steel places have them for $3.50, compared to $8 at West Marine.
I like one for each rod in the 9-13 rod trolling pattern tied of 5 or 6 to each cockpit corner cleat. Mine are 11' long (finished length, starts out at 13'), tied with a 10" knotted loop on one end and knotted tight loop for the snap on the other. I am anal, so I have 14 of them, 2 each in seven different colors, so I can tell which is which. I also have another 17 tied with 6" loops and snaps that are 3' long for securing the rods to my 17 hardtop rod holders - I have seen more rods fly and get knocked off those then the gunnel holders.

ubettcha13
04-16-2011, 06:23 PM
Goto Petco and purchase the long dog leashes. Oil the clips up with corrosidn or WD40 after each trip. Attach the loop to a cleat and the clip to the ring on the reel clap. If the reel doesn't have a clamp go here and puchase one for the reels that need them. This isn't a shoulda woulda coulda deal this is a must do
http://www.charkbait.com/cs/csr_Reel-Clamps.htm
Use shorter ones for fishing and have 2 long ones so that the angler can move around the deck with the rod still attached to the boat. If the angler goes overboard you will still be able to recover the most important thing that's the fish on the end of the line:grin:

auguste
04-17-2011, 03:17 AM
You are kidding, right ?

You are going tuna fishing and you don't know how to secure your rod and reel to you boat ?????

;?

auguste
04-17-2011, 03:20 AM
ubettcha13 is right about the dog leashes

You can also go to an outfitter and but nylon snaps and belt webbing and make your own

Make sure the nylon snaps are strong . . . they have some really good ones near the cliff climbing gear . . . nylon does not rust or damage your boat like the metal snaps can

Joe Belletti
04-17-2011, 05:08 AM
Hook line on each reel and hook the other end of each line to a cleat or other similarly secure part of you boat. Have a nice day. Sorry you are such a negative and angry person. You must really enjoy what life has to offer.

CC driver
04-17-2011, 05:46 AM
or is it something I should make on my own with my line splicing skills?

Great question, BW!
Having just invested in some new tuna rods/reels, I also wanted to know how to ensure they stayed in the boat. From another thread on the same subject it was suggested that learning to splice rope and make your own was the way to go. I found some easy-to-follow instructions on Sampsonrope.com and found some marine stainless trigger snaps at goodboatgear.com. The steps were easy to follow and once you get the hang of it each splice will only take a couple of minutes to complete. They look great and only cost about $6 each. You may however, want to order plenty of extra rope because once you learn how to spice, you'll want to make custom lines for everything. Good luck!

REDWEISER
04-17-2011, 05:50 AM
I make mine about 6 ft long ... a must for bent butts and high clipped lines.


http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/3856/72117554.jpg

bwhaler240
04-17-2011, 07:06 AM
Hook line on each reel and hook the other end of each line to a cleat or other similarly secure part of you boat. Have a nice day. Sorry you are such a negative and angry person. You must really enjoy what life has to offer.


Joe, if you're capable, you can probably notice the amount of support I received from everyone else on here that was POSITIVE. Not sure how it makes me negative since you started this off with a pretty damn negative comment.

To everyone else, thanks again.

Antares13
04-17-2011, 08:53 AM
Hook line on each reel and hook the other end of each line to a cleat or other similarly secure part of you boat. Have a nice day. Sorry you are such a negative and angry person. You must really enjoy what life has to offer.



Why must you be an a$$?


I use safety lines on all my rods while they are in the water. 1/2 nylon with stainless clips. When i run i bungee the rods in the rocket launchers in.

Pierless
04-17-2011, 10:16 AM
I go with 5/16" nylon 15' safety lines - loop at one end, stainless clip at the other. When trolling the bent butt in each corner will have its own line clipped to the reel - the 15' lets you grab the rod and do something, you can always unhook the safety line later. When moving I use one line to secure up to 3 rods across the transom or 3-4 in the rod holders.

Also use them to drag some teasers right behind the boat!

Ronn Burgandy
04-17-2011, 11:17 AM
http://www.fishermansoutfitter.com/p-86-One-10--Safety-Line-to-Secure-Reels.aspx

Not hawking their gear specifically, but that's what you're looking for. Check eBay for cheaper prices.

auguste
04-17-2011, 12:35 PM
Hey All

Keep hearing that I should have my tuna rod/reel setups attached to the boat somehow..Can any of you suggest the best ways of doing this? Is there a product designed for this, or is it something I should make on my own with my line splicing skills?

Just ignore the trolls

Whatever you chose you should consider the length of the leash you are going to use

Some charter captains like really long leashs and leave them on during the entire time the customer is fighting the fish . . . just to avoid losing the fish and the customer over the side of the boat

I have a smaller boat than most offshore charter boats and I fish with mostly with an experienced crew . . . I like the shorter leash which I remove from the rod before removing the rod from the rod holder to fight the fish . . . we don't want to trip over the leash

We also have a leash tied to the chair or other secure space . . . when we hook onto a really big fish (and the angler is using a fishting belt) e.g. a nice sized bluefin or bigeye tuna, we attach the leash to the anglers fighting belt . . . both angler and rod are attached to the boat

Enjoy your offshore fishing . . . and I agree . . . the gold jewlery (fancy reels) are really expensive and I like to take care of them and keep them on board! :grin:

auguste
04-17-2011, 12:42 PM
or is it something I should make on my own with my line splicing skills?

Great question, BW!
. . . . I found some easy-to-follow instructions on Sampsonrope.com and found some marine stainless trigger snaps at goodboatgear.com. . . .



Excellent link for splicing

Thanks

bwhaler240
04-17-2011, 02:04 PM
Thanks everyone!

Joe Belletti
04-17-2011, 03:50 PM
Well at least you agree you are an angry person. Enjoy your day. Happy happy joy joy.

Pierless
04-17-2011, 03:56 PM
Well at least you agree you are an angry person. Enjoy your day. Happy happy joy joy.

Ahhh Joe, bless your heart, trying to be nice.

ps PM OldPete if you need someone to explain this to you :grin:

bwhaler240
04-17-2011, 05:26 PM
Well at least you agree you are an angry person. Enjoy your day. Happy happy joy joy.

Where did I agree to that? You might want to get your meds upped though!

auguste
04-17-2011, 05:45 PM
Where did I agree to that? You might want to get your meds upped though!

His comments could be interpreted as being directed to a number of posters on this thread

Just disregard him . . . he is just trolling to see if he can get a rise

Pierless
04-17-2011, 05:50 PM
Where did I agree to that? You might want to get your meds upped though!

Appears you will survive on this web site :thumbsup:

bwhaler240
04-17-2011, 05:51 PM
Appears you will survive on this web site :thumbsup:

I shall prevail!

sanchoco
04-17-2011, 06:11 PM
I shall prevail!

glad that you have got some good answers to your question. Just some advise for future posts:
1. be more specific.
2. be more specific.
3. be more specific.

From your original post I had no idea what type of tackle you were asking about. Jigging, Trolling, or Chunking. Heavy, medium or light tuna tackle, What type of boat you fish from. All of these items will make it easier for members to give you good advise. Remember that there are members here that live and fish all over the world and one persons heavy tuna tackle is another's light tackle. Were you interested in securing the rods/reels for running in rough seas or during fishing? The wealth of info here is often so great that you may get answers to a post that may have no help to your situation just because their boat/fishing style or other ideas are vastly different than yours. As I fish from a large S/F and a CC both I know how different the needs and questions can be just because of the style of your boat.

steve76
04-17-2011, 06:24 PM
I picked up 4 of the nylon type with stainless hooks on them at Capt. Harry's for about $20.

A Few Dollars
04-17-2011, 06:28 PM
Dog leash

http://www.strapworks.com/Leash_w_3_4_Flat_Nylon_p/l34n.htm

jburban
04-17-2011, 06:30 PM
Here's what I do.
I made up these lanyards.
A must have for the little ones.
For the forwards rod holders I connect it to the bow rail - you can see the line behind his head. Be sure to make them long so you can pick up the rod and start winding without first unclipping the lanyard form the reel.
Connect to the opposite side of the crank so you can get started and at a free moment unclip.
J

jburban
04-17-2011, 06:38 PM
Hook line on each reel and hook the other end of each line to a cleat or other similarly secure part of you boat. Have a nice day. Sorry you are such a negative and angry person. You must really enjoy what life has to offer.


You came out swinging. SUCK IT!!!!

bwhaler240
04-17-2011, 06:54 PM
You came out swinging. SUCK IT!!!!

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Rod27
04-18-2011, 06:17 PM
Bungees....i use them on the t-top rod holders when running, and can also use them for securing anything to the gunwales. My kite reel is a Daiwa Tanacom Bull and I bungee it too. It's not a Krystal so it's alot lighter.

Joe Belletti
04-19-2011, 04:33 AM
Angry, angry man

stars-N-stripers
04-19-2011, 05:36 AM
I don't use them when trolling, but I should, I have short lanyards attached to each of my rod holders for when I am underway.I didn't check my dragone time, I had it too tight, and a 36 lb striper hit it so hard, that the fish broke the rod holder. good thing I was standing next to the gunnel when I got smacked with the rod. had it been a stern rod it would have been lost.I also use the lanyards while underway, asl heard of many rods going for a swim after hitting a good wave or 2 while underway. BTW there are some great advice on this topic, I realy like the link for splicing
Jim

Rod27
04-19-2011, 07:00 AM
Angry, angry man

let it go already....geez

UNCFISH
04-19-2011, 07:16 AM
I almost never use them. However I ALWAYS use one if i'm using the fighting chair for a rod holder to gain an extra line in the spread. I don't trust that rod holder on the side of the fighting chair. Although, I've caught tons of tuna from that rod and it never budged.

Pierless
04-19-2011, 07:16 AM
Angry, angry man

You just keep proving how wrong you are. You might want to find another thread.....

bwhaler240
04-19-2011, 09:44 AM
Angry, angry man

You just keep proving how wrong you are. You might want to find another thread.....

He's just upset that there was so much good information given on the topic, and that he started it out on a bad foot!

Thanks again everyone

Joe Belletti
04-20-2011, 05:35 AM
Anybody who is out tuna fishing should ALREADY know how to attach a rod/reel to their boat. That was my point. Forget the many individual ways people achieve this simple procedure .... it very basic in nature. I know I wouldn't want to be on any boat at the tuna grounds where the skipper couldn't figure out such a simple thing as this.

bwhaler240
04-20-2011, 07:03 AM
Anybody who is out tuna fishing should ALREADY know how to attach a rod/reel to their boat. That was my point. Forget the many individual ways people achieve this simple procedure .... it very basic in nature. I know I wouldn't want to be on any boat at the tuna grounds where the skipper couldn't figure out such a simple thing as this.

The idea is simple, and anyone could tie a rope to a setup and then back to a cleat. That is obvious. But how about..is it better to attach to the rod? or the reel? What types of clips are people using to keep them secure...etc...That is what I was going for and that's what everyone else figured out. You're either slower than everyone else, or you're just going out of your way to be a dick.

stars-N-stripers
04-20-2011, 08:45 AM
[QUOTE=bwhaler240;3687773]Hey, were you born knowing every thing in existence? I don't think so buddy. What is the point of this this forum? Not to ask questions? Oh sorry. My mistake. Get a life and a clue.


Joe B. , you need to reread the above quote, if you cant, then get a 3RD grader and they will explain it to you.

UNCFISH
04-20-2011, 09:54 AM
You're either slower than everyone else, or you're just going out of your way to be a dick.

I'd say he's a little bit, scratch that, a LOT of both:thumbsup:



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