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s_ebels
03-26-2011, 07:40 PM
Looking for feedback on miles per gallon (real calculated mileage) from anyone with an F-150 running this motor. Any other comments regarding performance or your general opinion of the truck would be appreciated also.


My son and I took one of these for a 20 mile test drive consisting of city and highway driving with a couple obligatory blasts up to 90+ thrown in for good measure. We saw 16.7 mpg on the dashboard readout and it was climbing steadily yet at the end of the drive. Cruising on the highway at 70 it went from about 13 (after one of the high speed blasts) to 16mpg within 5 miles of driving.

Overall impression of the truck easily falls in the OMG! territory. Ford definitely hit it right out of the park in terms of comfort, ride quality and noise in the cab. The F-150 is far quieter than my 2008 Toyota Highlander Limited and I have to say that the ride is also far better. In fact, if I buy one of these things I don't think I will let the little woman drive it because she'll want to trade the Toyota.

AFA impression with the drivetrain from our short drive I gotta say Holy Cow! again. That motor has unbelievable torque and loves to grunt at low RPM. The transmission shift points are obviously programmed to take advantage of it because it shifted up at only 1500 -1600rpm under normal acceleration from a stop. That being said, it absolutely wailed up to 5,800rpm before shifting when we put the spurs to it. Seems to be an extremely flexible engine in terms of being happy. Even at those low rpm shift points there was no sign of shake or shudder from the drivetrain. The thing pulled hills on our "tour" that we have driven many times in the Tundra we own and where the Tundra 5.7 would drop to a lower gear the Ecoboost just motored along like there was no grade at all in front of it.
It truly acted more like the diesel in my F-250 than a gas motor.

I'd really like to hear from some guys who have even a few thousand miles on their truck before I pull the trigger on one of these so please fire away. I'd really be curious to know what rear axle ratio you have in yours if you do comment. Looks like the truck is available with 5 choices of rear axle ratio from 3.15 to 4.30 and that has to make a difference in mileage.


surrender
03-27-2011, 05:44 AM
Sounds good but what happened to all the Ford claims of 22-24 MPG? Of all the real world reviews or comments I've seen NONE have shown anything over 20 MPG. Plus all those were empty, not towing, so it seems that it is no better then the V-8's if your going to tow anything. I can get 18-19 empty going 65-70 mph on the hwy with my 5.7 Vortec with 240,000 miles on it.

s_ebels
03-27-2011, 06:01 AM
Sounds good but what happened to all the Ford claims of 22-24 MPG? Of all the real world reviews or comments I've seen NONE have shown anything over 20 MPG. Plus all those were empty, not towing, so it seems that it is no better then the V-8's if your going to tow anything. I can get 18-19 empty going 65-70 mph on the hwy with my 5.7 Vortec with 240,000 miles on it.


Welllll.....that's why I ask here. One of the 4x4 magazine reviews I read said that the testers observed mileage near 30mpg on a 50 mile trip when driving moderately. I gotta see that or hear it from someone out in the real world before I believe it.


mcsea47
03-27-2011, 06:18 AM
I think the 22-23 mpg numbers are for the 3.7, non turbo V6, 2 wheel drive F150, and probably one of the economy rear ends,- not the ecoboost in a tow setup. Seems a little unrealistic to expect those numbers with a 4x4 and a rear end set up to tow.

05VWFF
03-27-2011, 04:58 PM
I think you still have to wait a few months before we start seeing a plenty of numbers from these engines with there different set ups and truck configurations. Its a fact all trucks get lower mpg when brand new. Also different driving habits ect the list goes on. I know people whom have the 5.3 and you see all this claim they get 20mpg, yet they get 15-16 on a good day. And if you go over to the F150 forums there are just as many people stating they are getting 19-20mpg almost brand new as there are saying they aren't. Time will tell which is one reason why a ton of us won't buy vehicles there very first model years. Wait and look at the data.

FastZR1
03-27-2011, 05:16 PM
The way I look at the ecoboost is that the motor is still a V6. No problem with a V6, but when you start towing and putting a big load on the back of the truck you are now putting the extra tq on those 6 cylinders instead of 8 with a V8. I'm sure the ecoboost is probably a good motor as it's been in the Taurus for a few years now. But, I'm more concerned with longevity in a truck where it will be hauling or towing loads of several thousand pounds.
I may be way off but that's how I tend to think about things. My wife says I over analyze everything I do. LOL

ReelWork
03-27-2011, 05:51 PM
The way I look at the ecoboost is that the motor is still a V6. No problem with a V6, but when you start towing and putting a big load on the back of the truck you are now putting the extra tq on those 6 cylinders instead of 8 with a V8. I'm sure the ecoboost is probably a good motor as it's been in the Taurus for a few years now. But, I'm more concerned with longevity in a truck where it will be hauling or towing loads of several thousand pounds.
I may be way off but that's how I tend to think about things. My wife says I over analyze everything I do. LOL

Cummins is a 6 cylinder.... Inline 6 to be exact.

Think you're looking too deep into this. Power is power - direct injected with twin turbo setup is awesome. I am also on the sidelines to see how this holds up long term. Ever think about the fact that the Eco-Boost doesn't have to downshift as much (transmission life plus) and also runs lower RPM's while towing since it doesn't have to spool up the RPM's all the time (motor life plus). And by the way, RPM is just the same in a V8 as it is in a V6...

( I over analyze also)

slinkyonrampage
03-27-2011, 06:26 PM
I just bought a new Tacoma, I love the truck, but I almost regret not waiting to see how the F150 Eco-boosts work out. How much are the F150 Eco-boosts going for?

s_ebels
03-27-2011, 07:29 PM
I just bought a new Tacoma, I love the truck, but I almost regret not waiting to see how the F150 Eco-boosts work out. How much are the F150 Eco-boosts going for?

Priced out a sharp Fx4 version with the leather package, tow package and upgraded wheels/tires for right at $40K OTD List was about $44.5K. I slots in between the XLT and the Lariat feature wise.

I'm not interested in towing MPG. Any truck with a gas motor is going to get 10 or less. That;s all there is to it. What I would really like to see is real world mpg during daily drive type use. I can't believe no one on THT has one of these yet............

lakeeffect
03-27-2011, 08:08 PM
I recently bought a 4wd F150 Platinum Supercrew with ecoboost. around town and mostly rural driving I am getting between 15-16 mpg. On the highway 16.5. I love the power and its very quiet. I am hoping with added miles to see 16-17 mpg around town.

blackdawg
03-28-2011, 07:25 AM
Test drove an EB and 5.0 back to back over the same route. ~60/40 city/highway. I drove them both the way I normally drive which is fairly aggressive on the throttle but not a hot rod and no wide open throttle. Re-set the mpg computer each time. The 5.0 showed 13.5 ave, the EB showed 14.7. The EB felt more powerful but did have some turbo lag. It merged onto highway easier and did not downshift going from 70-80 while just simulating a moderate acceleration. The 5.0 downshifted under the same circumstance and needed to rev higher while merging onto highway. The EB simply felt like it didn't work as hard as the 5.0. The EB sounds like your mom's grandma's Camry or Buick. If you like an extremely quiet and refined truck engine it would be hard to beat. You can barely hear it and the power just comes on smooth and strong. Both engines felt better than a regular 5.4. Niether of them impressed me as much as I thought they would. I drove a 6.7 Powerstroke after just for kicks. The mpg on the same route was 13.5, same as the 5.0. It was 10X more enjoyable to drive and the engine felt like a beast. I didn't want a super duty. I'm going back today and if they want to deal I'm ordering a Super Duty.

ReelGrimm
03-29-2011, 03:49 PM
the ecoboost is awesome... more impressive than most V8's on the road.. we are in 2011 people.. The displacement of a v8 and low milage is turning into old technology...

thechumbucket
03-30-2011, 11:13 AM
Got 4000 miles on my ecoboost, about half towing and about half not towing. I get 22mpg on hwy doing 65 and 20mpg doing 70. When towing, 12 mpg at 65 and 10 mpg at 70. Tow weight estimated at 4000 pounds (boat 2000, engine 650, gear/fuel/ people another 1350). Truck is 4x4 supercrew with 3.73 gear ratio. Just added toneauo cover, will post those numbers after more driving.

chrisrack
03-30-2011, 11:35 AM
I just got a F150 4x4 4-Door 5.0 Ecoboost engine. Very, very nice truck. Rides great and feels very solid. Very well designed truck. I only have 600 miles on it thus far but in mixed driving, I got about 16.5 mpg. On the interstate, if I set the cruise control to 55mph, the OBC says I am getting about 20 mpg; increase to 65 mph and I'm at 18+ mpg. At 70-75 mph, I'm at 17-18mpg.

iFishMD
03-30-2011, 11:40 AM
Chris, do you have the ecoboost (turbo charged 6 cylinder) or the 5.0l V8?

chumbucket, those look to be great numbers when not towing./

tomarsyd
03-30-2011, 11:52 AM
I took my first drive in one yesterday. It was a brief drive, but I could tell the motor had a lot to give.
I need to go drive another one again. Main reason for me looking would be gas savings. I only tow maybe 10% (and that's probably a high estimate), so if I could get 18-20 mpg, i'd take that any day to be able to stay in a full size truck. I would even step down to a 2WD for that extra MPG.

I love my current truck, so if the MPG proves not to be such a great savings, I'll just keep mine. I just put friggin wheels and tires on it. :-) lol

http://www.apointintimephotography.com/images/TruckNewWheels04.jpg

chrisrack
03-31-2011, 01:03 PM
Greg -

It's actually a work-truck and it is a 5.0. My mistake.

I still have my F350 7.3PSD as my personal truck.

iFishMD
03-31-2011, 05:19 PM
Chris. Those are still good numbers. You are doing better than I am with my Tundra with 5.7 and 4.30rear

welder
03-31-2011, 11:02 PM
So far we are seeing the OVERHEAD numbers , I and others would like to see real math ...Miles divided by Gallons after a fill up .

Not bashing , just want to see real numbers not the LIE-O-METER.

nedarb2
03-31-2011, 11:15 PM
So far we are seeing the OVERHEAD numbers , I and others would like to see real math ...Miles divided by Gallons after a fill up .

Not bashing , just want to see real numbers not the LIE-O-METER.

dashboard computers should be dead on. they can read how much fuel every injector is squirting out, and they are taking the distance driven and doing the calculation.
the distance you would calculate by hand would be the same one the computer is using as its getting its info from the same place.

i can see some of the older trucks being off on the mpg when the computers couldnt tell how much fuel was being injected very accurately, but not in this day and age its shouldnt be off.
My etec can tell me exactly how much fuel its using down to .01gph - im sure these trucks can do the same thing.


The only way to get a more accurate number in my opinion, is track how far you have gone with a gps, and divide by the fuel used as per what the computer says (if they can tell u how much fuel?) even filling up and seeing the fuel consumed at the pump i think would be less accurate as every pump will put in a differerent amount of fuel before turning off - but thats going to be splitting hairs

airbrush
04-01-2011, 01:51 AM
So far we are seeing the OVERHEAD numbers , I and others would like to see real math ...Miles divided by Gallons after a fill up .

Not bashing , just want to see real numbers not the LIE-O-METER.

I matched my GPS miles - gas consumption numbers against my computer and found the computer to be consistently .2-.3 MPG on the conservative side. No lie.:thumbsup:

sugarloaf
04-01-2011, 07:19 AM
Went in yesterday to trade in GMC 07 2500 duramax and order the Platinum F150. (NO more Oboogie vehicles for me) I trust this dealership and service dept. they sell GMC, Ford, Chrysler & Jeep The sales guys and the service department both said that the fuel ecconomy numbers coming back so far on the 6 ecoboost are lower than ford was projecting. They really pushed the 5.0 V8 6 speed over the ecoboost. Also said that the only proven 6 ecoboost was a version in the Mustang. Said the 5.0 would deliver 16-20. The sales guy driving the F150 ecoboost demo was getting 23+ when not towing and going 55mph but towing or heavy on the pedal it dropped to 16+. Do I know this is all true? NO. Just offering info (2nd hand) back to the forum. My wife has the 2011 Flex ecoboost and it is really nice got 23mpg on a 600 mile trip going 55-70mph. They also said that yesterday Ford sent out an email saying to advise them to tell customers not to check mileage until a minimum of 3000 total miles. They cut me a deal of $16K (Tax Plates and prep B.S. incl) on the Loaded Platinum eco boost 6, with my truck as trade. So I'l pull the trigger today. I'll only pull an 18ft glass walleye est @ 3000 loaded with gear boat 3-4 times a year and otherwise am easy on the pedal. If I learn more I'll post again. Good Luck.

MacCTD
04-01-2011, 08:34 AM
Went in yesterday to trade in GMC 07 2500 duramax and order the Platinum F150. (NO more Oboogie vehicles for me) I trust this dealership and service dept. they sell GMC, Ford, Chrysler & Jeep The sales guys and the service department both said that the fuel ecconomy numbers coming back so far on the 6 ecoboost are lower than ford was projecting. They really pushed the 5.0 V8 6 speed over the ecoboost. Also said that the only proven 6 ecoboost was a version in the Mustang. Said the 5.0 would deliver 16-20. The sales guy driving the F150 ecoboost demo was getting 23+ when not towing and going 55mph but towing or heavy on the pedal it dropped to 16+. Do I know this is all true? NO. Just offering info (2nd hand) back to the forum. My wife has the 2011 Flex ecoboost and it is really nice got 23mpg on a 600 mile trip going 55-70mph. They also said that yesterday Ford sent out an email saying to advise them to tell customers not to check mileage until a minimum of 3000 total miles. They cut me a deal of $16K (Tax Plates and prep B.S. incl) on the Loaded Platinum eco boost 6, with my truck as trade. So I'l pull the trigger today. I'll only pull an 18ft glass walleye est @ 3000 loaded with gear boat 3-4 times a year and otherwise am easy on the pedal. If I learn more I'll post again. Good Luck.

When did they start putting the EB in the Mustang?

Jonboater
04-01-2011, 01:31 PM
Calling an engine "Eco-Boost" sure does cause a lot of confusion, especially with the sales people. Ford website does not show a turbo only the standard 3.7 V6 for the Mustang. Seems like it would be be a cool option though, maybe it is recently released?

crothers
04-02-2011, 05:20 PM
No ecoboost in the Mustang. A 3.7L naturally aspirated at 305 hp is the entry engine (14.0qtr mile @100mph which beats a 1970 Boss 302), same design as the base non-turbo 3.7L V6 in the 2011 F150.
When you see ecoboost in a Mustang, it will have less than 6 cyls.
IF YOU WANT LARGE DISPLACEMENT ENGINES, BUY NOW.
Yes, I know I was yelling. Don't say you were not told.
Don't ask how I know.

ZIGZAG
04-02-2011, 05:58 PM
So far we are seeing the OVERHEAD numbers , I and others would like to see real math ...Miles divided by Gallons after a fill up .

Not bashing , just want to see real numbers not the LIE-O-METER.

:thumbsup:

jeffnick
04-02-2011, 06:49 PM
I got my Ford here - get a quote...it was well worth my plane fare up from SC.
http://www.vanbortelford.com/

s_ebels
04-30-2011, 04:44 AM
btt....

Anyone with new data?

lakeeffect
04-30-2011, 07:51 AM
I just got back from a road trip (not towing)from upstate ny to Memphis TN in F150 4wd Platinum super crew Ecoboost(6000 mile on the odo) driving around 75 mph on the highway and my average was 16.7 mpg. I checked the trip comp mileage against my own long hand and it was right on.
I love the truck and the power compared to my 2010 Expedition.
And by the way the headrests are much more comfortable if anyone cares!

pastaman1234
04-30-2011, 11:37 AM
so it seems the motor has more power but less fuel economy when not in tow and about the same fuel economy when in tow?? Comparing to the 5.4!!

lakeeffect
04-30-2011, 12:44 PM
Defimitely more power than the 5.4 in my expedition. Not sure how they compare as far as weight but I thought the Expedition was really underpowered.

pastaman1234
04-30-2011, 01:01 PM
Not towing i averaged almost 20 mpg on a 250 mile trip a few weeks ago with my 5.4 and 30k miles doing 70 mph. I thought that was pretty good.

Libra
04-30-2011, 01:57 PM
Would be interesting to know how the new 5.0 stacked up under similar conditions.

MacCTD
04-30-2011, 05:27 PM
Would be interesting to know how the new 5.0 stacked up under similar conditions.

They mention the 5.0 against the EB in this test http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2011/04/road-test-review-2011-ford-f-150-fx2-35-liter-ecoboost-v-6-part-1.html

pastaman1234
04-30-2011, 06:04 PM
They mention the 5.0 against the EB in this test http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2011/04/road-test-review-2011-ford-f-150-fx2-35-liter-ecoboost-v-6-part-1.html

Nice read but ford screwed up by sending 355 axle vehicle to tow a 9600lb trailer. What were they thinking?

I understand the 2wd over 4wd but not the 355 part....

StraitsFisher
05-02-2011, 08:52 AM
So what am I missing.....

2000 F-250 with a 7.3 PSD. I get 16-18 in mixed city/highway. I get 19-21 on a pure highway run. Towing a 4,800# travel trailer I get 13-14. Towing a Parker 2320 with a tower, full tank, gear, ice, etc. I get 10-12.

No, it's not as quick as the new trucks are, but it can get out of it's own way and I feel in no way handicapped passing on two lanes.

I run 70-73 on the highway, tow at 62-24. Truck is stock except for exhaust. 35" tires, 3:55 gears, mileage corrected for tire error and cross checked with GPS/hand calc. It's just broken in at 250K miles.

We've gone backwards with diesel and gas isn't there yet.

I'd love to get a new truck, but I don't see the benefit yet.

crothers
05-02-2011, 04:24 PM
SF,
Your not missing a thing. Only problem is your 2000 Fseries is not saleable today due to emissions. I don't mean a little, like up the catalyst loading, more like 2 orders of magnitude reduction in (largely NOx) emissions allowed. Oh, no particulates any more either.
Hey, as an auto engineer, one of my sayings is "we don't make the rules, we just play the game". Thank the tree huggers. Too bad we don't have European emission laws. Then we could drive 50mpg small displacement torque monster diesels as allowed (encouraged) there.

As

Bly
05-04-2011, 05:44 PM
SF,
Your not missing a thing. Only problem is your 2000 Fseries is not saleable today due to emissions. I don't mean a little, like up the catalyst loading, more like 2 orders of magnitude reduction in (largely NOx) emissions allowed. Oh, no particulates any more either.
Hey, as an auto engineer, one of my sayings is "we don't make the rules, we just play the game". Thank the tree huggers. Too bad we don't have European emission laws. Then we could drive 50mpg small displacement torque monster diesels as allowed (encouraged) there.

As

Just loves to run with nothing holding it back. I guess that is why I can sell my truck easily for more then I paid for it. Sort of like a whole under ground diesel truck universe out there. Any pre 6.0 ford diesel is the only one I would ever buy. Meaning a 7.3 or nothing.

crazy8
05-04-2011, 07:07 PM
Buddy of mine just traded in his 2005 D-max 2500 for a 2011 F150 EcoBoost. He is picking it up next week. He was impressed by the power delivery. He doesnt tow much, mostly around town driving.

I dont think I could ever go back to a gasser after owning a diesel. I get 15-16mpg towing my 26', all in shes 8000lbs trailer included.

I get 18-20 daily driving, which is mostly 40-50mph back roads to and from work and the gym.

And the torque is un-replaceable. Nothing beats 600lb-ft from a dead stop.

Native2FL
05-06-2011, 06:49 AM
In the Fall I bought a new 2010 F-150.. FX2 Supercab with the 5.4L and heavy tow package. I could have gotten the 2011 with aluminum blocks, but I am older and I chose the tried & true iron block. Here is the boat I tow, about 5K# total. My truck gets 9.5 towing at 65 and 21(twenty one) not towing at 65.. Just took a 4 hr trip and checked by gallons too. The FX2 package has a trans temp gauge that I wanted.. Truck tows very well, and rides like a fine car otherwise.. I got all that I expected and more..

http://i972.photobucket.com/albums/ae207/FLNative_album/Base%20Album/Delivery/DeliveryDay015.jpg

triumphrick
05-06-2011, 07:25 AM
In the Fall I bought a new 2010 F-150.. FX2 Supercab with the 5.4L and heavy tow package. I could have gotten the 2011 with aluminum blocks, but I am older and I chose the tried & true iron block. Here is the boat I tow, about 5K# total. My truck gets 9.5 towing at 65 and 21(twenty one) not towing at 65.. Just took a 4 hr trip and checked by gallons too. The FX2 package has a trans temp gauge that I wanted.. Truck tows very well, and rides like a fine car otherwise.. I got all that I expected and more..

http://i972.photobucket.com/albums/ae207/FLNative_album/Base%20Album/Delivery/DeliveryDay015.jpg

Nice..man that is a sharp looking truck! But in my looking, I did not see an FX2 full 4 door. The site I was using only showed an access cab and not a full 4 door...and I really like the looks of your FX2.

Stim
05-06-2011, 09:11 AM
I watched the Ford Infomercial on Speed Channel last night on the eco-bust. Not once did they even mention mileage! The closest that they came was the Baha Dude said they were getting great mileage, but I guess he didn't know how to compute it. ????
They did all these wonderful controlled tests but never calculated the mileage?
With all the crap they put in/on that engine and it gets the same or less mileage as the old stand by got? ( based on reports that I am reading here and else where)

blackdawg
05-06-2011, 10:43 AM
I watched the Ford Infomercial on Speed Channel last night on the eco-bust. Not once did they even mention mileage! The closest that they came was the Baha Dude said they were getting great mileage, but I guess he didn't know how to compute it. ????
They did all these wonderful controlled tests but never calculated the mileage?
With all the crap they put in/on that engine and it gets the same or less mileage as the old stand by got? ( based on reports that I am reading here and else where)

I'm not sure I'm a huge fan of the ecoboost but I don't think you can write it off like that. I've been following the reports and forums on this engine as well and don't really believe it's failed at all at this point. What Ford said was it is to provide the same performance with ~10% better fuel economy. They left it vague as compared to what but I assume the 5.4. I also test drove the ecoboost and saw better mileage than the new 5.0 which appears to be better than most of the other V8's out there as far as economy. I think the mpg debate is inconclusive at this point on the ecoboost. There is a huge difference between quoting 65 mph numbers vs 75 mph numbers for mpg's in a truck. The mpg's drop practically exponentially for every 10 mph over about 50 or 60 mph in a truck. Driving style and conditions play a huge role as well. I can hypermile my 5.4 and get some pretty good mpg if I want or drive like an idiot and get embarassing numbers. Bottom line is that it's very sketchy to develop a firm mpg estimate based on peoples numbers when most factors are unknown. Though it may not be perfect at least the EPA ratings are probably the closest to apples to apples and that testing indicates the ecoboost gets a few mpg better than any comparable V8 in a truck. It has already proven to be as fast unloaded and loaded as just about any other truck V8. So if it's the same mpg towing or even a little less but ends up being a couple mpg better unloaded (which it will be most of the time) then it will have accomplished what Ford said it would. That is 10% better fuel economy while keeping same performance. Little steps forward at this point since nobody is really reinventing the wheel here. Until the EPA stops choking diesels and someone brings a good one out in a half ton or some other technology pops up I don't see the half tons getting 25 mph anytime soon. Maybe a smaller direct injection gas, maybe. The ecoboost feels much stronger than any stock 5.4 I've driven and if it gets a little better fuel economy then I think it's done what Ford said it would.

Native2FL
05-06-2011, 11:33 AM
Both new motors look and sound great on paper. They do perform as advertised as well. Fuel economy is all in the driver.. My numbers are only mine..

The new 5 liter motor is superfast in the Mustang GT.. OMG.. 12.9 quarter mile ! And they put it in the trucks ! I know the truck motors are tuned for torque, but there is some aftermarket potential there for the shortbed boyz..
Longevity is the question on the new motors. I just got Yamaha F300 on my boat, so one plasma coated aluminum block in the family was enough of a gamble.. Otherwise I would have gotten the 5.0, not the turbo V-6..
I am a long-term owner of vehicles, so I stick with the proven powerplants.

crothers
05-06-2011, 08:08 PM
Trivia from my company (Ford) intranet:
April F150 sales were 50% V6. That of course includes the base 3.7L (naturally aspirated) and the 3.5 Ecoboost. Acorrding to this news source, 75% of V6 sales were ecoboost 3.5. so, (.5 X .75) equals 37.5% of total sales being Ecoboost.
Seems like a good move for the Company. I imagine there is a good market for commercial fleets for the base V6 pickup: OK power, cheap, better fuel economy, etc.
Expect to see similar powertrain line-ups in the other manufacturers. And, smaller V6s will be appearing in a F150 in the mid future. Fuel economy laws, boys and girls. Got to be legal to sell.

HTV
05-12-2011, 03:11 PM
With about 1500 miles on my new F150, I finnaly did the numbers with miles driven and gallons to refill. On my normal drive/routine It worked out to 15.8 miles per gallon around my semi-urban and rural area. The trip odometer was right on the money with amount of gas burn and miles per gallon. It also showed that my average speed was 38.6 miles per hour.

On the next tank I checked milage on a trip mostly Interstate. With my cruise set at 77 mph. I manually figured I got 19.3 mph and the trip odometer said the same with an average speed of 66 mph. The milage is gradually getting a little better. The first fill-up the computer said 364 miles to empty. My last fill-up read 392 till empty.

Compared to the 07 Tundra with the 5.7 I had, I'm getting right at the same around town and about 2 miles per gallon more on the road.

I plan to tow my boat, 5500 lbs., in a couple of weeks about 120 miles round trip and will check milage again. Love the truck by the way.:thumbsup:
Ford F-150 Lariat Crew cab
3.5 Eco-boost
4x4 w/ offroad package
3.73 differental

FishinSturgeon
05-13-2011, 01:27 PM
Buddy of mine just traded in his 2005 D-max 2500 for a 2011 F150 EcoBoost.
And the torque is un-replaceable. Nothing beats 600lb-ft from a dead stop.


800lb-ft beats 600.........thats what my new F250 boasts :)

pastaman1234
05-13-2011, 01:31 PM
800lb-ft beats 600.........thats what my new F250 boasts :)


:grin:

JRussell
05-14-2011, 05:53 AM
800lb-ft beats 600.........thats what my new F250 boasts :)

Well you should see what 1200 ft/lbs feels like! :thumbsup:

s_ebels
06-20-2011, 01:44 PM
Anyone?

I'm really curious as to what real world mpg these trucks are getting with the Eco-Boost V-6. If you know what rear axle ratio you have please post that info also.

I drove one a couple months ago that had a 3.73 rear end and it showed about 17mpg on a 25 mile trip.
Drove one today with the 3.31 axle and the truck showed 20.9 on a 60 mile trip.
Both trucks were brand new with less than 400 on the odometer.

lakeeffect
06-20-2011, 01:58 PM
I have a ecoboost F150 4wd supercrew Platinum with 3.55 gears. around town and rural driving I am getting about 16.5. On the highway I get about 15.5-16 driving 75 mph avg. dropped back to under 70 I do realize around 17.5
I have over 12,000 miles on my truck. Love it and have no real issues with it.

ReelWork
06-20-2011, 04:18 PM
I have a ecoboost F150 4wd supercrew Platinum with 3.55 gears. around town and rural driving I am getting about 16.5. On the highway I get about 15.5-16 driving 75 mph avg. dropped back to under 70 I do realize around 17.5
I have over 12,000 miles on my truck. Love it and have no real issues with it.

Glad I got my F250 Lariat 4x4 Crew Cab with the 6.7L Diesel - Getting better than that! Averaging 15.5 in town and around 18.5 at 75-78 (actually runs better at that speed than at 70). Have seen over 20 but the heat and this stupid wind has not helped one bit..

11,800 miles a/o today.

Joe Dirt
06-21-2011, 01:58 PM
800lb-ft beats 600.........thats what my new F250 boasts :)

:grin:

Kenner21
06-24-2011, 11:29 PM
Glad I got my F250 Lariat 4x4 Crew Cab with the 6.7L Diesel - Getting better than that! Averaging 15.5 in town and around 18.5 at 75-78 (actually runs better at that speed than at 70). Have seen over 20 but the heat and this stupid wind has not helped one bit..

11,800 miles a/o today.


Want to compare what we paid? :)

If I take it easy in my Ecoboost I can get 22mpg and I'm averaging 18-18.5 combined. Lariat Ecoboost SCREW 3:55 on 305/40 R22s' 1500 miles My boat is around 5,000lbs didnt make sense to drop 60k on a F250. Maybe next truck. I'm curious to see what the truck will do when it gets a little more broken in and it cools down a little. Online reports are all over the place.

swiseuf
06-25-2011, 02:23 AM
I don't understand why folks are so butthurt over the EB gas mileage. Ford threw out a goal of ~10% improvement in mileage, not 30-50%! Some folks on here act as if the EB should increase mileage to over 20 mpg. Do the simple math and you quickly realize that we are talking about less than 2 mpg improvement over the outgoing v-8 models with otherwise identically outfitted trucks.

I'll take the "measly" 10% improvement along with the vast performance and capability upgrade.

cusith
06-25-2011, 02:34 AM
Funny to see how everyone is so impressed by 19 MPG. An average volkswagen van or pick up burns around 42 MPG. So why not take a foreign van if mileage is so important.
For me with these gas prices i do not worry about mileage, I am more impressed by driving fun. We are all boaters that do not care about running twins-triples-quads that burn 100 GPD but still worry about the truck.

If i look at myself, I worry more about the boat economy then the truck. Running a sea-fox with twin 115 because I just can't afford a bigger fuel bill on a weekly fishing trip.
But for daily driving I run a Dodge Ram V8 and don't care about the 26 gallon weekly fuel-up.

Not to mention in the US fuel is almost free if i see that I pay around $9.50 per gallon.

ReelWork
06-25-2011, 06:26 AM
Want to compare what we paid? :)

If I take it easy in my Ecoboost I can get 22mpg and I'm averaging 18-18.5 combined. Lariat Ecoboost SCREW 3:55 on 305/40 R22s' 1500 miles My boat is around 5,000lbs didnt make sense to drop 60k on a F250. Maybe next truck. I'm curious to see what the truck will do when it gets a little more broken in and it cools down a little. Online reports are all over the place.

Yes, I do want to compare....

Mine had 10k miles on the clock (new/used) and bottom line, I paid a hair over $42k OTD. So actually paid around about $39k for the truck...

Trust me, I wouldn't have paid $60k either. ;)


Agree with others, when you're nit-picking over a MPG or two when your running a high power, towing vehicle... Well, time to rethink priorities. Won't even touch on that fuel efficient boat! :trout:

JRussell
06-25-2011, 06:39 AM
I don't understand why folks are so butthurt over the EB gas mileage. Ford threw out a goal of ~10% improvement in mileage, not 30-50%! Some folks on here act as if the EB should increase mileage to over 20 mpg. Do the simple math and you quickly realize that we are talking about less than 2 mpg improvement over the outgoing v-8 models with otherwise identically outfitted trucks.

I'll take the "measly" 10% improvement along with the vast performance and capability upgrade.

Not sure where you pulled the 10% figure from, but Ford does claim the EB gets 22 mpg... http://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/specifications/engine/

The reason some people are not so happy is because most of them are seeing more like 16-18 mpg max. Read the reports from EB owners themselves.... http://www.fordf150.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=99115

Boat Hound
06-25-2011, 06:53 AM
I still dont get why they dont put a i-6 diesel in this truck. Crazy power & mid 20's mpg...not sure if Ford is stupid or they think their buyers are.

I bought a Jetta diesel for a commuter 40 mpgs @80 mph, 10k between oil changes. No smoke,no clatter, no old school diesel issues.

crothers
06-26-2011, 04:39 PM
I still dont get why they dont put a i-6 diesel in this truck. Crazy power & mid 20's mpg...not sure if Ford is stupid or they think their buyers are.

I bought a Jetta diesel for a commuter 40 mpgs @80 mph, 10k between oil changes. No smoke,no clatter, no old school diesel issues.


Lots of stupid people out there, I guess. The F series is the best selling truck again.
As a Ford engine guy, I am thrilled we finally got the funds to design and tool our own diesel. Hmm, wonder how much profit for a (Ram or Dodge, which is it) diesel truck goes to Cummins and not Chrysler, er..., Fiat.
The relevance of the excellent Jetta to a truck conversation is not clear to me. Last we studied putting a small diesel from our European cars over here, the car was $2,500 less profitable. You know what the diesel price upgrade is in a truck (and boat...Wow), wonder how much VW is making on the Jettas? Wonder why Toyota doesn't have diesel Hiluxs here?
All the major manufacturers make diesels for Europe and Asia/Pacific, and ROW (rest of world). Be nice if we had the same emission laws and tax structure on fuels and the purchase price of a car based on engine size and fuel used. Oops, no it wouldn't because fuel here would be $9/gal and the tax on anything over 3.0L would be in the thousands.
A more global view of the car industry would short circuit these myopic criticisms of the domestic auto industry players. Gee, how many cars are American companies allowed to sell in South Korea?
I am also one of the guys where my F150 is only driven when I need a truck, so while better fuel economy is always ....well, better, it doesn't rank up there with the impact of putting 100gals of gas in the boat. Which I am thrilled with because it gets 3mpg! Woo-hoo!!

netman9
06-26-2011, 05:00 PM
Alright guys, need fuel milage? Talked with my brother last night. He's looking at an 80' model Scout with a factory turbo diesel... 30 mpg around town no matter how you drive it. Just don't expect to see above 60 mph, it just won't! 101HP HUNTING /FISHING MACHINE.

Boat Hound
06-27-2011, 01:57 PM
Lots of stupid people out there, I guess. The F series is the best selling truck again.
As a Ford engine guy, I am thrilled we finally got the funds to design and tool our own diesel. Hmm, wonder how much profit for a (Ram or Dodge, which is it) diesel truck goes to Cummins and not Chrysler, er..., Fiat.
The relevance of the excellent Jetta to a truck conversation is not clear to me. The relevance is that if VW can create a smooth, smoke free, small diesel, I am sure Ford can too Last we studied putting a small diesel from our European cars over here, the car was $2,500 less profitable. You know what the diesel price upgrade is in a truck (and boat...Wow)I do, and I think many would pay the premium, wonder how much VW is making on the Jettas? They do it by using cheap crappy interior components (not sure why they is relevant)Wonder why Toyota doesn't have diesel Hiluxs here?I wondered the same thing - I called Toyota to see about importing one...EPA crap
All the major manufacturers make diesels for Europe and Asia/Pacific, and ROW (rest of world). Be nice if we had the same emission laws and tax structure on fuels and the purchase price of a car based on engine size and fuel used. Oops, no it wouldn't because fuel here would be $9/gal and the tax on anything over 3.0L would be in the thousands.
A more global view of the car industry would short circuit these myopic criticisms of the domestic auto industry players. Gee, how many cars are American companies allowed to sell in South Korea?
I am also one of the guys where my F150 is only driven when I need a truck, so while better fuel economy is always ....well, better, it doesn't rank up there with the impact of putting 100gals of gas in the boat. Which I am thrilled with because it gets 3mpg! Woo-hoo!!.

solarfry
06-27-2011, 04:16 PM
So far we are seeing the OVERHEAD numbers , I and others would like to see real math ...Miles divided by Gallons after a fill up .

Not bashing , just want to see real numbers not the LIE-O-METER.

I don't trust those computer either.

My computer says 14 mpg

The fillups confirm 10.51 mpg over 10,000 miles.

My Yamaha gauges say 4.2 mpg average.

My boat fillups confirm 3.78 mpg using 40.5 gallons to go 153 miles.

Joe
06-27-2011, 08:00 PM
Unfortunately..my '07 GMC Yukon overhead computer is dead on..14.3 mpg last week by division and computer!

ReelGrimm
06-29-2011, 09:20 AM
I've had my 2011 fx4 ecoboost now for over a month now and LOVE IT.

I am getting well over 15mpg (maybe closer to 20 if i take it easy) towing on the highway, which is most of my tow. Around town the guage shows about 13mpg, but I don't baby it...

I have an 18 egret and don't feel the boat at all... Ford has really stepped it up on their f150 line.

The truck feels a world more powerful than a lot of v8 other trucks I have driven.

I used to hear a lot of people criticize, the tow capacity of 11,000 pounds. Dude if you are towing 11,000 get yourself a diesel rig man.. not an f150.

sugarloaf
07-02-2011, 07:08 AM
Information on F 150 2011 ecoboost with 4,400+ miles total
Just returned from a fishing trip to Canada with 2011 F150 Platinum supercrew pulling a 19ft fibreglass Warrior boat.. Total weight of truck, boat trailer, gear, 2 people = 9,990lbs
Average mpg since new was 17.6 dropped to 17.1 on 675 mile trip.
Trip "B" mpg was 14.7 drove 65 in 60, and 60 in 55 zones.
The truck drove beautifuly, hardly noticed pulling the boat. Hope this helps. BG

shemstreet
07-12-2011, 11:53 AM
Happy with mine, major improvement in performance over the 5.4 V8 in the Expedition I traded in, and looks to be getting better highway mpg (but I also don't trust trip computers and am still on my first fill up).

As for diesel, it would take a hell of a long time to recoup the extra purchase cost of a diesel over a gas engine, especially now that diesel fuel actually cost more than gas. I don't see it if you aren't actually towing in the 3/4 ton class. Anything in the 1/2 ton class of trailer boat should be happy to be behind the F150 with ecoboost.

RY54
07-13-2011, 09:38 AM
Anyone have actual highway hand calculated mpg numbers at speeds of around 78-80mph? I have a 2010 f150 5.4 4x4 supercrew. I get just under 17mpg at 80+, and just over 20mpg at 65mph. I am more dissapointed with the power than the economy on this truck. It feel so electronicly inhibited, I wonder if the ecoboost is that much better. I test drove one, but without actually using one for a couple days its hard to judge if its worth changing.

HTV
07-13-2011, 10:26 AM
Your numbers are about the same as mine with the eco-boost.
I have '11 f150 Super Crew 4x4 with the 3:73 differential.



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