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bamaboy473
03-24-2011, 05:40 AM
While searching in order to replace uppers and lowers on the Excursion, it was surprising how much price difference I found.
$10 each for private label or Mevotech
$17 for Raybestos
$25 for Moog

The money difference doesn't amount to a whole lot, but my curiosity is wide open about the WHY of the matter. BTW, those Moogs have a list price of $99 each...

Since the truck won't see 25,000 miles in my ownership, I could go with the cheapo brands, and what would I be missing so long as I get them with grease fittings?


n3up
03-24-2011, 06:00 AM
Get the Moog ball joints.

I had put Autozone store brand, Duralast I think, on my F250 and they didn't last the year to the next inspection.

The mechanic that I use for the things that I can't, or don't want to handle myself, will only install and warantee moog.

I'm sure he could take a greater markup on parts that cost less, but then he has to stand behind them.

billinstuart
03-24-2011, 06:09 AM
Metallurgy. Beer cans vs. quality hardened steel. Any balljoint can be drilled for a grease mite.


Ntrain2k
03-24-2011, 06:40 AM
Get the Moog's. They last a TON longer.

bamaboy473
03-24-2011, 06:42 AM
It's a rare day that you can buy the best for only $50 more (for the whole set), so Moog it is from RockAuto ($115 for uppers and lowers, shipped).

It's going to cost $150/side to mount the things, so might as well mount the best and never have to worry about it again.

Thanks, guys.

cazador
03-24-2011, 07:52 AM
Get the Moog ball joints.

I had put Autozone store brand, Duralast I think, on my F250 and they didn't last the year to the next inspection.

The mechanic that I use for the things that I can't, or don't want to handle myself, will only install and warantee moog.

I'm sure he could take a greater markup on parts that cost less, but then he has to stand behind them.

x4, I had cheapies installed and they hardly lasted out the door and I had to replace them within a year. The biggest part of the cost is labor and cheap parts cost you $$.
Diesel Excursions are hard on ball joints because the engine is so heavy.

thefermanator
03-24-2011, 10:22 AM
I do quite a bit of sidework, and there is a reason that the cheapies from AUTOZONE and ADVANCE come with a lifetime warranty. Because they know you will be using it in the near future. Buy the MOOGS or SPICER brand if you can find them and be done with it. All of these aftermarket parts coming out of MEXICO aint worth the packaging they come in.

Ace52
03-24-2011, 10:27 AM
yep get the moog

bamaboy473
03-24-2011, 12:07 PM
This is one of the very few threads where everybody is on the same side of the question...not one good comment about any other brand except Moog.

Moogs are on order.

Back-in-Black
03-24-2011, 06:37 PM
Moog is where it's at. In another lifetime I was an ASE certified Master. I wouldn't buy anything but Moog for mine or anyone else's vehicle.

Hunky Dory
03-25-2011, 06:32 AM
The two things that wear them out fastest is snow plowing or trailor towing. Lots of wheel movement at slow speeds. Get the good stuff. Brake pads same thing ,if you buy the cheap ones the lining usually falls off the backing before they wear out, at least in New England they do.

brilloduck11
03-25-2011, 06:36 AM
Get the Moog. They are the best. The peace of mind is worth the little bit of extra money.

davidd
03-25-2011, 06:55 AM
Just went through this with my F-250, After much research I ended up with the Moogs. $325 in parts for ball joints and seals.

bamaboy473
03-26-2011, 02:24 PM
:( Oh heck, I feel for you. I went to Rock Auto.com and the Moogs were $25.79/each, so with $12 shipping the whole bill came to $115 for upper and lower Moogs.

Better yet, two days later they got delivered today to the house. Great prices, great service.

ubettcha13
03-26-2011, 02:46 PM
http://www.dynatrac.com/products_prosteer_balljoints.html
Nothing can compare to these but you pay dearly for them.

bamaboy473
03-26-2011, 07:29 PM
;? what would be the marketing reason to offer a ball joint that's 5 times the cost of the market leader (Moog) and up to 50 times the cost of other brands?

thefermanator
03-27-2011, 10:46 AM
;? what would be the marketing reason to offer a ball joint that's 5 times the cost of the market leader (Moog) and up to 50 times the cost of other brands?

Not everybody out there is stock. Lifted trucks, or trucks used in racing and sled pulling see extreme forces that 99% of trucks don't ever remotely see. For thos instances you need a billet piece that is over engineered in EVERY possible way.

bamaboy473
03-27-2011, 07:18 PM
Not everybody out there is stock. Lifted trucks, or trucks used in racing and sled pulling see extreme forces that 99% of trucks don't ever remotely see. For thos instances you need a billet piece that is over engineered in EVERY possible way.



:thumbsup: Dang, isn't it good to know when people know what they're talking about! I think I'll just stick with regular Moogs until I decide to join the circuit! :grin:

davidd
03-28-2011, 05:12 AM
:( Oh heck, I feel for you. I went to Rock Auto.com and the Moogs were $25.79/each, so with $12 shipping the whole bill came to $115 for upper and lower Moogs.

Better yet, two days later they got delivered today to the house. Great prices, great service.


Must not same be the same as a superduty..... I bought everything at rock auto. The seals alone are over 100 bucks.



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