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hugohue2
03-22-2011, 05:51 AM
will my 2010 F-150 4x4 pull it out? I have a 32' Regal cruiser that weighs 11.600 lbs. and the trailer is 3250lbs. so, right at 15000 lbs and the truck is half that. I have seen trucks in the water at the boat ramp on you tube. and this makes me wonder if my truck will be able to pull it out and put it back in. Just need to change the fluid in the out drives and paint the bottom which i intend to do myself. Don't plan on pulling it down the road. The ramp is not a steep ramp. but i would really like to get a piece of mind about what i am thinking about doing from some more experienced with this kind of weight. I have towed a 27' 10000 lbs with a expedition and that felt heavy.


HeadHunt
03-22-2011, 06:00 AM
will my 2010 F-150 4x4 pull it out? I have a 32' Regal cruiser that weighs 11.600 lbs. and the trailer is 3250lbs. so, right at 15000 lbs and the truck is half that. .

No.. the F-150 is not the tool for that job.

rwidman
03-22-2011, 06:01 AM
will my 2010 F-150 4x4 pull it out? I have a 32' Regal cruiser that weighs 11.600 lbs. and the trailer is 3250lbs. so, right at 15000 lbs and the truck is half that. I have seen trucks in the water at the boat ramp on you tube. and this makes me wonder if my truck will be able to pull it out and put it back in. Just need to change the fluid in the out drives and paint the bottom which i intend to do myself. Don't plan on pulling it down the road. The ramp is not a steep ramp. but i would really like to get a piece of mind about what i am thinking about doing from some more experienced with this kind of weight. I have towed a 27' 10000 lbs with a expedition and that felt heavy.

That 11.600 lbs boat will not be a problem at all. You can just pick it up and carry it to the trailer. ;)

Seriously, what is the tow rating of the truck? Is the rig within the tow rating?

I think most of the videos on youtube are of idiots who had no clue or were drunk or both. I suspect you will be fine. Slow and easy is the key.

Make sure you have good tires on the truck. While you have 4 wheel drive and four wheel brakes, your parking brake and transmisson park position may only work on the two rear wheels. When I first started towing, I put chocks under the wheels at the ramp. I soon realized that I did not need them.


A Few Dollars
03-22-2011, 07:04 AM
will my 2010 F-150 4x4 pull it out?
right at 15000 lbs

No.. the F-150 is not the tool for that job.
X2

abfish
03-22-2011, 07:14 AM
Put the truck in 4L, put some chocks behind the rear wheels before you load the boat, and I doubt you'll have an issue. You can tie the chocks to the rear bumper with short pieces of rope, so that they will "follow" you up the ramp.

When you re-launch, use low range, and try not to step on the brakes too hard while backing down the ramp, or the truck wheels may begin sliding. Don't panic if the truck slides a little bit- once the boat hits the water you'll slow down

Flot
03-22-2011, 07:25 AM
15k lbs of boat and trailer.. are you planning on doing the work in the ramp parking lot?

mfav
03-22-2011, 07:32 AM
If you do attempt this can you please make sure you take a video recorder?

SHAMROCK69
03-22-2011, 07:43 AM
depends on the ramp condition. With 4 wheel low you won't have problem getting up the ramp. I have slid down a few ramps in my time with the front wheels locked up and it does have a bit of a pucker factor. The key is to keep the truck in a straight line so if you slip and start to go down the ramp the boat will go in and float which will put more weight on front and get you stopped.

kerno
03-22-2011, 08:03 AM
Yeah, it is a lot of weight and over the tow rating, but your are not heading down the highway with it. Do it at high tide so the ramp is free of slime. You can pull it out on a rising tide if the ramp is dry. I think that if you can pull it out, you'll be able to drop it back in.

petrel
03-22-2011, 09:35 AM
Put the truck in 4L, put some chocks behind the rear wheels before you load the boat, and I doubt you'll have an issue. You can tie the chocks to the rear bumper with short pieces of rope, so that they will "follow" you up the ramp.

When you re-launch, use low range, and try not to step on the brakes too hard while backing down the ramp, or the truck wheels may begin sliding. Don't panic if the truck slides a little bit- once the boat hits the water you'll slow down

Good advice. Slow and 4Low is key.

BACKTOTHESEA
03-22-2011, 09:57 AM
If you have to back down at an angle, like when the ramp is perpindicular to the street, I would be very cautious. If you can approach the ramp by backing straight down, then follow the advice above. I once bought a 26' searay aft cabin and the broker had to approach the ramp at an angle with a jeep cherokee style. Once the boat was on the ramp it pulled the back of the jeep sideways, nearly ripped off the tires and almost put the jeep into a jersey barrier at the top of the ramp. I thought the dude was going to lose his truck.

mfav
03-22-2011, 10:09 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdZMK47lxg8

Port Monster
03-22-2011, 10:10 AM
The specs for the new F-150 has a maximum towing capacity of 11,300 lbs with a special high capacity towing kit. You are well over that number and I wonder if you have the 11,300 rating to start with. Can it be done - yes. Hell I use to put our 18 foot tri-hull in at the ramp with a cub cadet garden tractor when I was 16. Should it be done - probably not. If I were in your shoes I would have a knowledgable boater or you stay in the truck while launching and reteiving and another knowledgeable person actually doing the launching and retreiving. That way you can get use to it with some level of comfort. The run to the door of the truck from the boat or vise versa is a looong one when the shit hits the fan!! Not that I have done it before. :roll:roll

TopCat
03-22-2011, 01:22 PM
In 4wd low range, probably yes.
But I'd be worried about snapping a U-Joint or other sudden drive line failure, and then you WILL be in the drink. I'd go ahead and take it to a boatyard to haulout and service/paint....why risk it?

bjm9818
03-29-2011, 08:54 AM
I would find a buddy with a real truck ;) or pay to have it hauled and blocked at a yard. It will be cheaper than paying your insurance deductible. At the very least, I would have a friend with another 4x4 in front of you with a tow strap attached in case you run in to problems and need a little help.

ReelGrimm
03-29-2011, 02:27 PM
I have done it before pretty easily.. just use the outboards to help push you out and it will come right out.

If by yourself it can be tricky, but if you have a buddy, just have him in the boat give it gas while you pull it out in 4wheel low.... it will come right out and have him cut the engine when you pulll him out...

You'd be suprised how easily the boat will come out...

I use the method quite a bit even when the truck is match pretty fairly...

Irish Jig 78
03-29-2011, 02:39 PM
Personally, I'd find someone w/ a 350 or 3500 and offer him a $150 for a couple hours of his time. Or look for a hauler...that brand new truck gets any major mechanical issue or frame issue and they can prove it was neglect...say goodbye to the warranty. They wont cover it. I know.

Then again I'm just gettign older and not as daring. If you are gonna go for it, I'd say an hour before high tide haul out and go back in within an hour of the falling tide. And keep your tires dry if at all possible.
Damn...I'm getting nervous for you...

WNY PAT
03-31-2011, 08:29 AM
For Sale: 2004 Silverado 4X4 X cab. Brand new interior. Mint condition! Carpets and engine compartment recently detailed! Adult owned and driven! You won't find a cleaner ride!

Seriously - look for it - that truck will show up on E Bay or something - and they'll be looking for an out of town buyer....

dave11
04-01-2011, 10:59 PM
You need a real truck. I love Fords, but a 150 is a grocery getter, not a tow vehicle for a boat the size of yours.

dahlbebop
04-01-2011, 11:52 PM
Go rent a truck (Dually ) for a week!:thumbsup: Be cheaper than having it pulled by a marina.

mjmason1
04-02-2011, 04:34 AM
The F150 towing capacity is in the 10,000 lb or higher range depending on the model. I wouldn't be to concerned. I towed a 10,000 lb boat with a Silverado 1500 from NC to MA it was a strain but no problem. To pull your boat for a quick fix shouldn't be a big deal. For a little piece of mind use wheel chocks and a quick thinking friend.;);)

RussH
04-02-2011, 07:19 PM
I used to pull a 28' Carver w/ twin I/O's with a little Jeep Comanche pick up truck. Once the boat got on the ramp decline it would drag the truck all the way down the ramp, tires squealing all the way. Once the boat hit the water the truck would stop everytime. You just have to get used to being dragged down the ramp is all.

Russ

tango2echo
04-02-2011, 08:18 PM
Can I watch? I'll bring beer and tissues. :grin:

Tie the chocks to the bumper with enough rope so they just clear the trailer wheels, put it in 4L, and go easy with it. If it spins, resist the urge to floor it. Would also help to have an extra 500-600 pounds over the rear axle and to air the rear tires down to about 25psi. They will squat when the tongue weight gets on them, but you can air them up in the parking lot with a small compressor or an air pig.

I've done worse. We had to get a 30ft Albermarle out of the water once when a hurricain was coming and the only truck we had was a Dodge 1/2 ton with the 360 gas, and a tandem trailer rated for 12K. It wasn't pretty, but it worked.

t2e



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