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s_ebels
03-17-2011, 07:58 PM
I went in to the local tire store to get the third set of tires for my F-250 KR a couple days ago and for once I lucked out. They had just taken a set of 275/65R20 Michelins off a brand new Super Duty. Ford is putting them on the 2011's as standard equipment but the guy that bought the new truck had then swapped for some 35" BFG All Terrains and bead locker rims.
My truck came with Goodyear Wrangler ATS tires and they held up well. About 55,000 miles on the first set and 65,000 on the second and I went in thinking I'd get another set of those. They made me an offer I couldn't refuse on the Michelins so I thought what the heck, I'll try 'em.

If someone would have tried to tell me that those Michelin's would make as much difference in the way my truck feels and drives I'd have called that person a liar right to their face. The difference in ride quality, noise level and road feel is unbelievable. You'd have to try a set to understand.

I never had any problems or felt like the Goodyears were a poor tire in any way but the Michelin's are definitely in a completely different league. Expansion joints in the freeway used to be a solid KaTunk KaTunk and now they are a muted and seemingly distant pa-bum pa-bum. Rumble strips are something you feel a little bit and hardly hear.
These are no lightweight tire either. Load range E running 80PSI air pressure.
I would heartily suggest that you think long and hard about getting a set of Michelin's the next time you need tires.

Sorry if this sounds like an ad for the Michelin man but I am amazed at the difference they made in my truck.


t500hps
03-17-2011, 08:09 PM
I have a set on my wife's 3/4 Suburban....75K and still 1/4 inch of tread. They are an awesome tire with no negative properties but one. A major one at that, they are owned by the French.

Libra
03-17-2011, 08:33 PM
I'm very close to having to replace the tires on my Tahoe (if I don't trade it first). I've run two sets of Michelins and only got 32K - 35K out of them, and the dealer says thats just the way it is, although I think they now have a 70K guarantee. I'm probably NOT going back with Michelins, or may try a different dealer to see if some compensation can be given for the poor mileage (my son gets it all the time). I'm seriously considering Uniroyals. Anyone have experience with these?


Pursuit2470
03-18-2011, 04:39 AM
Uniroyal is a tier 2 brand owned by Michelin. An excellent value tire is the Firestone Destination AT

anchored
03-18-2011, 04:54 AM
I went in to the local tire store to get the third set of tires for my F-250 KR a couple days ago and for once I lucked out. They had just taken a set of 275/65R20 Michelins off a brand new Super Duty. Ford is putting them on the 2011's as standard equipment but the guy that bought the new truck had then swapped for some 35" BFG All Terrains and bead locker rims.
My truck came with Goodyear Wrangler ATS tires and they held up well. About 55,000 miles on the first set and 65,000 on the second and I went in thinking I'd get another set of those. They made me an offer I couldn't refuse on the Michelins so I thought what the heck, I'll try 'em.

If someone would have tried to tell me that those Michelin's would make as much difference in the way my truck feels and drives I'd have called that person a liar right to their face. The difference in ride quality, noise level and road feel is unbelievable. You'd have to try a set to understand.

I never had any problems or felt like the Goodyears were a poor tire in any way but the Michelin's are definitely in a completely different league. Expansion joints in the freeway used to be a solid KaTunk KaTunk and now they are a muted and seemingly distant pa-bum pa-bum. Rumble strips are something you feel a little bit and hardly hear.
These are no lightweight tire either. Load range E running 80PSI air pressure.
I would heartily suggest that you think long and hard about getting a set of Michelin's the next time you need tires.

Sorry if this sounds like an ad for the Michelin man but I am amazed at the difference they made in my truck.

I have a Dodge 3500 diesel bought last year..I thought I would replace the tires ( truck mileage 140,000) immediately. I now have over 40,000 miles on the tires and will probably go back with Mich.....Amazing.....;) I don't know the total mileage of tires but is way high.....

jedmis10
03-18-2011, 05:09 AM
I run Michelin LTX's and get 55,000 miles regularly on curvy mountain roads. Great tires.

Design59
03-18-2011, 01:46 PM
I have the Michelin LTX / M-S on my Avalanche (275/55/20) and will never own anything else.
This set has 90k+ and still has =/- 10k left in them. And they do ride and drive much better than the Goodyears that were original equipment.
I will attribute some of the high mileage to the fact this truck has spent alot of miles as an highway commuter, but working in the boat biz it has also towed anything and everything on a regular basis.

I have never gotten more than 35k with a 20inch Goodyear, so even at twice the cost, I am way ahead with the Michelins, and get better ride and handling to go along with it.

kerno
03-18-2011, 03:11 PM
According to the survey data on TireRack.com, the Michelin LTX MS2 is the best tire out there for most trucks. At the price of around $200 each, they should be. If you are looking for a less expensive tire that is still highly rated, the General Grabbers are not far behind the Michelins and are about $130 each in load range E. If you do buy Michelins, make sure you get the M/S 2's because they are quite a bit better than the older MS.

Here;s the results from Tire Rack: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=HAS&width=245%2F&ratio=75&diameter=16&tireSearch=true&autoMake=Chevrolet&autoYear=2007&autoModel=Silverado+2500+HD+2wd&autoModClar=Regular+Cab

Jonboater
03-18-2011, 06:57 PM
I'm very close to having to replace the tires on my Tahoe (if I don't trade it first). I've run two sets of Michelins and only got 32K - 35K out of them, and the dealer says thats just the way it is, although I think they now have a 70K guarantee. I'm probably NOT going back with Michelins, or may try a different dealer to see if some compensation can be given for the poor mileage (my son gets it all the time). I'm seriously considering Uniroyals. Anyone have experience with these?

Thats interesting the dealer telling you that...surely these were not the LTX/MS were they? The new 2's have a 70K guarantee but even the originals usually lasted a very long time. We just put a set of 265/17 LTX/MS2s on our tahoe and after about 15K and three rotatons they are still basically like new with no noticable wear. That is almost half the life you got out of them, very weird.

thundra
03-18-2011, 07:32 PM
I have LTX M/S for 55,000 miles now and have at least 5,000 if not 10,000 miles left in them.

I will get the LTX M/S 2's next. Rain, snow, quiet, smooth, great tires. I'd rather pay more and go to the tire-store less.

Fla4life
03-18-2011, 07:34 PM
LTXs on a dually f-350 here

tango2echo
03-18-2011, 07:46 PM
Michelin LTX MS-2's in 275/70/18. Gained .7mpg just by switching from Bridgestone Dueler At's. Stick like glue to slick boat ramps. Looks like I will get 75K or more out of them. 2008 Z-71. Got them from TireRack for $714 on sale, installed locally with roadhazard plan for $68.

SirFer
03-18-2011, 08:03 PM
My 2011 F-250 came with Michelin LTX A/T 2's stock. (Note these are the A/T 2's, I've heard great things about the MS 2's but have no experience with them.)

They were horrendous in the snow, so I traded them out for Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac's just for the winter.

As far as ride quality, I personally prefer the Duratrac's. I've tried running the Michelin's at all different pressures since I put them back on for Spring/Summer/Fall and can't seem to get the same ride as I had with the Duratrac's. I know that probably seems crazy because the Duratrac's are fairly aggressive. They were definitely a little bit louder at highway speeds but didn't intrude on conversation in the truck or anything. The Michelin's also handle a bit better, but there wasn't a huge difference there either. I also saw zero difference whatsoever in my fuel mileage between the two tires which was surprising.

Over on TheDieselStop forum, there were a lot of owners reporting bad wear with the Michelin LTX A/T 2's as well. There were more than a few owners who reported getting only 10-15k out of them before they needed replacing. So far I've got about 12,000 on mine and they seem to be wearing pretty well but I'll keep an eye on it especially as I start to do more towing and hauling this summer.

aln
03-19-2011, 12:30 AM
According to the survey data on TireRack.com, the Michelin LTX MS2 is the best tire out there for most trucks. At the price of around $200 each, they should be. If you are looking for a less expensive tire that is still highly rated, the General Grabbers are not far behind the Michelins and are about $130 each in load range E. If you do buy Michelins, make sure you get the M/S 2's because they are quite a bit better than the older MS.

Here;s the results from Tire Rack: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=HAS&width=245%2F&ratio=75&diameter=16&tireSearch=true&autoMake=Chevrolet&autoYear=2007&autoModel=Silverado+2500+HD+2wd&autoModClar=Regular+Cab

I just a set last month. They a $70 rebate on a set of 4 right now!!

jpw64
03-19-2011, 12:41 AM
I have used only Michelins since 1994. I usually get over 100,000 miles out of them. I pull a boat & trailer and a 16 ft utility trailer regularly. My last set I got 125,000 plus and they still had usable tread. I actually traded them to a guy that trimmed out my doors on my house with aluminum..lol I know he drove on them for at least 6 months. I also check my air pressure at least 2-3 times a week and I always get my alignment done when I rotate and balance (or more often if I can't avoid some of the worst roads..lol). I still have the old version MS on my truck now. I look forward to the MS 2 soon. My tire guy says I should be a spokesperson for Michelin...lol

baypro21
03-19-2011, 01:24 AM
I put a set of Mich. LTX M/S's on my wifes Trailblazer last year. Great Tires. :thumbsup:

Hullin
03-19-2011, 05:29 AM
Only 10 - 15 k on a set of tires? First of all, I have been running Michelins on my company fleet pickups for 12 years and they are great tires. Traction and wear are unbelievable. It is a safety issue for me, they are the best tires out there and I want my employees to be safe in rain and snow. I just replaced a set of A/T 2s that had 98,000 miles on them. Secondly, I don't care what brand of tire you run, if you get less than 15,000 miles on them you have serious suspension/alignment issues. Tires are like everything else, they need to be maintained (rotated, correct pressure and the vehicle has to be aligned correctly) or you will chew them up in no time.

SirFer
03-19-2011, 05:38 AM
Only 10 - 15 k on a set of tires? First of all, I have been running Michelins on my company fleet pickups for 12 years and they are great tires. Traction and wear are unbelievable. It is a safety issue for me, they are the best tires out there and I want my employees to be safe in rain and snow. I just replaced a set of A/T 2s that had 98,000 miles on them. Secondly, I don't care what brand of tire you run, if you get less than 15,000 miles on them you have serious suspension/alignment issues. Tires are like everything else, they need to be maintained (rotated, correct pressure and the vehicle has to be aligned correctly) or you will chew them up in no time.

I know it sounds crazy. I'm not sure if it was a bad batch or what. I was excited when I found out the stock tires were Michelin's because I've heard such good things about them.

Here's the thread on TheDieselStop forum discussing the bad wear. Bad Wear on Michelin's (http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/f149/bad-wear-being-reported-2011-6-7s-20-michelin-ats-265525/)

kerno
03-19-2011, 08:17 AM
The Michelin A/Ts did much worse in the TireRack ratings. On the same list, they came in a distant 22nd. I've found those ratings to be very useful.

cWICKBERG
03-19-2011, 08:25 AM
Uniroyal is a tier 2 brand owned by Michelin. An excellent value tire is the Firestone Destination AT


I am running these on my 2004 suburban...so far over 55K on them and not a problem...rotate every 5,000 miles w the oil change.

bubba shea
03-21-2011, 01:11 PM
I have the Michelin LTX M/S 265/70 17" on a 2006 Suburban with just over 70K on them and still have another +/- 15K to go. Will definitely be gettting the LTX M/S2 when its time.

Libra
03-23-2011, 06:10 PM
Thats interesting the dealer telling you that...surely these were not the LTX/MS were they? The new 2's have a 70K guarantee but even the originals usually lasted a very long time. We just put a set of 265/17 LTX/MS2s on our tahoe and after about 15K and three rotatons they are still basically like new with no noticable wear. That is almost half the life you got out of them, very weird.


Yes, they are the LTX/MS. I now have 33,000 on them and am down to the "replace" bar on two of them now. Doesn't make me a fan of Mich.

deltapitt
03-25-2011, 09:18 PM
I run the michelin LTX M/S 275/85/16 on F250 7.3L turning 100K soon and have never had a complaint. The Big O guys were shocked to hear how many miles I had when I recently brought my wife's car in for new sneakers. Did my research originally and it has definitely paid off. By the way I have a 78 mile drive to work (one way).

Jassman
03-27-2011, 05:39 AM
Only 10 - 15 k on a set of tires? First of all, I have been running Michelins on my company fleet pickups for 12 years and they are great tires. Traction and wear are unbelievable. It is a safety issue for me, they are the best tires out there and I want my employees to be safe in rain and snow. I just replaced a set of A/T 2s that had 98,000 miles on them. Secondly, I don't care what brand of tire you run, if you get less than 15,000 miles on them you have serious suspension/alignment issues. Tires are like everything else, they need to be maintained (rotated, correct pressure and the vehicle has to be aligned correctly) or you will chew them up in no time.


What was stated is true. Both my Ford trucks came with 275 65 r20.. I sold the Michelons to a member here at about 1800-2000 miles on them and put BFG 325 60 r20's on the F350. I have been comparing the wear between the two. I go in every 6k for an alignmenet and oil change.. Im not pleased with the wear on the Michelons,..F250.. 40k. I had them replaced..and the BFG's all though louder and more aggressive are doing slightly better on wear.. Im going with a different tire at about 80k on the 250...

castnet
03-28-2011, 03:23 AM
Got 32k out of BFG A/T....38k out of Nitto's ...stuck a set of these on last week...Michelin XDS-2...should easily double or triple the mileage

http://oi52.tinypic.com/5bv9c2.jpg

CessnaDriver15
03-28-2011, 03:58 AM
Michelin LTX's also. Once I tried them years ago, I was a believer.

xl883lo
03-28-2011, 04:19 AM
I know it sounds crazy. I'm not sure if it was a bad batch or what. I was excited when I found out the stock tires were Michelin's because I've heard such good things about them.

Here's the thread on TheDieselStop forum discussing the bad wear. Bad Wear on Michelin's (http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/f149/bad-wear-being-reported-2011-6-7s-20-michelin-ats-265525/)

Most of the Michelin's have better grip and the better the grip the faster you will chew them up if you run them underinflated. I wonder how many of those people aired these tires down to 40 or 50 psi for a cushy ride to work and then didn't reinflate them when they loaded them up????

TwentyFourSeven
03-28-2011, 06:35 AM
These tires here will be my next set on my trailer and probably truck.

http://www.goodyear.com/rv/products/g614rst.html




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foster6656
03-28-2011, 05:36 PM
Yes, they are the LTX/MS. I now have 33,000 on them and am down to the "replace" bar on two of them now. Doesn't make me a fan of Mich.

2 yrs ago i bought 4 used michelin ltx/ms for 110$ mounted and balanced and have over 35K miles on them.they basicly have not been touched since the day they were installed.just some air every once in a while and shes still straight as an arrow with no shake on the steering wheel what so ever.theres no other tire out there that compares to michelins longevity and ride period.goodyear equals crap you couldnt give me goodyears.ive had dunlops,firestones,nittos,falkans you name um ive had em nothing even comes close

Libra
03-30-2011, 10:47 AM
I posted above that I was nearing having to replace mine, and only got 33K out of them. Today one of the sidewalls cracked so as of today I'm calling for prices.....no spare now as its on the front and 33K out of a set of Michs. sucks.. I don't know how you guys are getting so many miles out of them.

wakeup
03-30-2011, 10:52 AM
While I have no problem with Michelins, I've found I can get a better ride, better mileage and better handling with Dunlops, and for a lot less money.

TwentyFourSeven
03-30-2011, 02:50 PM
At the moment I have TOYO's on my truck and they have been good.

s_ebels
03-31-2011, 04:01 PM
At the moment I have TOYO's on my truck and they have been good.

I think every manufacturer has tires that work and perform well and others that don't for whatever reason. The wife's 08 Toyota Highlander came with 19" Toyo's and they were junk at 28,000 miles. Talking with other owners of the same vehicle with the same tire revealed that we did very well with them compared to what most people experienced.
At only 15,000 I was noticing substantial tread wear and by 20K the tread surface was beginning to literally come apart, losing chunks here and there with the surface looking like someone took a razor blade and sliced into the tread.
My experience is that Toyo's are trash but I know a lot of guys that run them on their trucks with good results.

Badfishsportfishing
03-31-2011, 05:06 PM
I posted above that I was nearing having to replace mine, and only got 33K out of them. Today one of the sidewalls cracked so as of today I'm calling for prices.....no spare now as its on the front and 33K out of a set of Michs. sucks.. I don't know how you guys are getting so many miles out of them.

i kinda want to see a picture of a cracked sidewall.......................................... ...

Libra
03-31-2011, 07:16 PM
i kinda want to see a picture of a cracked sidewall.......................................... ...


too late now as i bought new tires today. it was basically like dry rot cracks all around the tire wall up near the tread area, and one just cracked all the way thru and whoosh there went the air. i did go back with the new michs. 2, as they gave a 38% discount based on the poor miles plus the tire breaking down like it did. thanks to a good dealer for going after the adjustment for me, and it wasn't even the dealer that i bought the first set from. the dealer that i did buy the first set from acted like he'd never heard of Mich. doing any kind of adjustment. turns out he just was too lazy to go the extra mile.

even with this good break, it still wasn't to be my best day. i went to pick up my boat from being serviced, noticed that the tahoe was squating and the "air ride" pump didn't come on so went by the chevy dealer.. now need a $440 repair job that includes a sensor thats on back order for an indefinite time, as the version of "air ride" that I have is different from what the new ones have. so much for the manufs. providing OEM parts for 10 years..?? In the meantime it'll squat while trailering, but with new tires.

TwentyFourSeven
03-31-2011, 07:57 PM
Just stay away from these trailer tires. (Transmaster from Greenball) I eventually had all 7 tires blow and greenball screwed me. They only warranted 3 of them and said I hit something with the other four. The damn tires blew so bad and caused over $1000 worth of damage to my trailer twice and almost flipped the boat.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p51/twentyfourseven_2006/1.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p51/twentyfourseven_2006/2.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p51/twentyfourseven_2006/3.jpg

sugarloaf
04-01-2011, 07:31 AM
Been buying LTX on the last 6 vehicles for Suburbans, Silverados', GMC 2500, Dodge Ram, and now F150. They are generally 1/3rd more + up front but consistantly deliver 90K (+/-) miles if treated properly. Best value in tires! Hate the French but like their wine and tires.
jpw64 and hullin are right on with their comments.

folly basser
04-02-2011, 05:19 PM
i'm hard on my work trucks, 40k miles per year, brakes and tires every year, all the tires wear out within 40k no matter the brand, how well i take care of them or how much they cost.
yall must drive like grandpa on a sunday afternoon.

rehookdup
04-02-2011, 06:28 PM
not to skew the thread,
I have 106,000 mikes on original BFG Rugged Trails
on my 06' F350 CC Diesel Dually Short bed.
Maybe i drive easy, as I have original back brakes, and fronts were done for the first time at 98,ooo mikes.....
Guess I fall under a babied truck.......



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