Trucks & Trailers - Towing Dilemma

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03-17-2011, 04:36 PM
Looking for a new tow vehicle to replace my 05 Expedition and has 110k miles on it. Don't want to go through what I did with my Suburban which was to start falling apart once it got to 100k miles on it and became a money pit.

Here's my towing criteria. My boat is only about 4k lbs. at absolute max. fully loaded including the trailer. Problem is I tow for long distances. While the shortest trip is only about 150 miles round trip it does include a 5-6% grade for at least 5 miles. My longer trips are 500-700 miles round trip and they have multiple grades of 5-6% and climbing to as high as 7.5k ft. Sometimes higher. I'll fish the 500 mile trip as many as a couple of times/month although with gas the way it is that won't be happening this season. Vehicle will also be used for road trips w/out the boat. It won't be a daily driver.

Diesel is out. No need for it. I don't want to buy something that will be at max. tow capacity so a small to med. SUV is out. Don't think it could stand up to such long hauls over time. Focusing more on trucks this time around. Looking at the Ford EB, Dodge 1500 and Tundra. GM is out.

So what do you guys think? Could the Tundra 4.6 handle those long hauls and grades? Anyone tow with one with similar terrain? I know the EB and 5.7's could. I've driven those 3 except for the 4.6. Like all 3. All have there pro's and con's imo. Tundra has the edge because their rear seats recline. Have to keep my 9 year old happy since she's my fishing buddy. :) Think it's going to be a tough choice though.

03-18-2011, 09:18 AM
A Tundra DoubleCab with the 4.6 sounds like a good solution for your requirements. I would think the F-150 with the new 5.0 would also be a good choice.

03-18-2011, 09:50 AM
According to Consumer reports, _average_ reliability is expected to be Toyota > Ford >>> Dodge.

The new Fords with high line trim are really, really nice. Toyotas are plainer but very reliable.

I pull my rig (little less than 4k lbs) with an older Tundra with the 4.7 with a four speed auto. Decent power, although it does slow down on grades.

03-18-2011, 02:07 PM
Choose a Tundra model that gets you the 5.7. With 6% and 7500', I'd go for 'overkill' rather than 'adequate' ... ;)

03-19-2011, 12:02 PM
Choose a Tundra model that gets you the 5.7. With 6% and 7500', I'd go for 'overkill' rather than 'adequate' ... ;)

Yeah was thinking the same thing. The 4.6 has more hp than my Expedition but less torque. While my Expy does well towing at the higher elevations it won't win any races either. Not with the miles on it now anyways. Now if it was all flat the 4.6 would do just fine.

One reason I like the Eco Boost is it has such low end torque band. 420lbs at 2500 rpm or so is fantastic imo. Just wish those rear seats reclined. Plus while the engine has been around a few years it hasn't been used in a truck application.

BTW, the Tundra is the least expensive of the 3.

04-26-2011, 08:16 PM
The new dodge durango is rated to 7000lbs. Its a sweat drive. 5.7 hemi

04-26-2011, 08:58 PM
A sweat drive huh?

04-26-2011, 09:43 PM
Choose a Tundra model that gets you the 5.7. With 6% and 7500', I'd go for 'overkill' rather than 'adequate' ... ;)

I agree with the "overkill." I tow a 2500# boat with a single axel and a 5000# boat with a dual axel trailer with a Super Duty with the V-10 gasser and a 5 speed manual trans. Never a problem starting or stopping. The Tundras with the big engine are great also.

04-27-2011, 11:44 AM
The new Grand Cherokee is beautiful and can tow 7400, yes i said!

04-27-2011, 11:55 AM
If you get something with a turbo you won't lose any power at the higher rpms because the turbos automatically make up for the thinner air. That makes the new Ford Ecoboost sound good for you.


04-28-2011, 04:09 AM
I tow about that much with a 5.7 Hemi Grand Cherokee, it pulls it like it's not there, and the 4x4 system (Quadradrive II) is far superior to the basic part time system on the pick up trucks. Put in a set of air bags in the rear coils and that's it....

04-28-2011, 06:25 AM
I pull my 212CC (2600 boat, 500 motor, 500 fuel, 1200 trailer?, batteries, gear, etc...) with a Tundra.

I have the 4.7 liter V.8. It does fine. Probably 5000 pounds total load...

No issues of slowing down going up a small incline. It doesn't labor hard. The 5.7 is a powerful engine. 4.7 will befine.. The 5.7 will be insurance.

04-28-2011, 07:22 AM
well, i have 155K on my Expedition and other than a couple of niggling door switch issues ... it's been great. my brother-in-laws have Suburbans and Tahoes - i agree that older GMs seem to have a 100K limit on running fine ...

personally, I'd stick with the beast until something happens. cheaper to run what's paid for than assume a note or outlay the cash ...

04-28-2011, 09:57 AM
Your doing yourself a diservice by eliminating diesels. They were made for applications like yours. LONG periods of towing. With the miles you claim you'll be towing, and the grades, it's a no brainer.

04-28-2011, 10:28 AM
I just bought a 09 dodge ram with a hemi. The 1500 has a multi link rear so the boat tracks great, pulls like it not there and a get a little over 14 MPG while towing. It also rides better than the wife’s car with or without the boat behind it.

04-28-2011, 10:39 AM
The new dodge durango is rated to 7000lbs. Its a sweat drive. 5.7 hemi

I guess you could always opt for the available Air Conditioning to make it s sweet ride right? lol

I do admit that new Durango looks good on tv.

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