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bc22
03-15-2011, 01:39 AM
not really a truck or trailer question, but probably the best place to ask is in this section.

I got a speeding ticket in Hawaii while on vacation. Zipping along "Saddle Road" on the big island early early morning from Hilo to Kona to be on time for my chartered fishing trip out of Kona -- so IMO a pretty darn good excuse to speed as i don't want to be late for fishing ;). (We went 1 for 5 for the day landing just one small 40#'ish striped marlin--kinda disappointing, but that's fishing).

What would happen if i don't pay this speeding ticket as i'm from Canada?

I'm not asking whether i should pay, just what would happen if i do not pay.

anyone know the truth on this one?


airbrush
03-15-2011, 02:22 AM
They'll probably issue an arrest warrant that could be a problem if you re-enter the US. It might also result in a vehicle impound.

After 30 days they print shoot-to-kill posters with your pic on them.:o

booyagasha
03-15-2011, 04:25 AM
a problem with reenter?? helll they want him to come


baypro21
03-15-2011, 04:29 AM
If you never plan on re-entering the U.S. you'd probably be ok (a law breaker, but ok). You live in Canada and can afford a Hawaiian vacation including sportfishing and are thinking about saving a few hundred dollars? Why? I don't know the fines and local lawyer fees in Hawaii but in NC that would run you $200-$225 and you could stay at home and wait for the results by e-mail. (don't ask how I know that) My advise is contact a local lawyer, let him handle it for you, and never worry about Hawaii/U.S. re-entry. Doesn't seem worth the risk.

SHAMROCK69
03-15-2011, 05:00 AM
Wow a Canadian that speeds I am impressed. Usually I see them in FL in the left lane of a 70 MPH road going 62 with a line of cars a mile behind them trying to get around.

WildSideFL
03-15-2011, 05:10 AM
Wow a Canadian that speeds I am impressed. Usually I see them in FL in the left lane of a 70 MPH road going 62 with a line of cars a mile behind them trying to get around.

HA! Sad but true. I-75 nightmare, the gov is even talking about a left lane driver law to allow ticketing folks that do this.

rwidman
03-15-2011, 05:43 AM
Wow a Canadian that speeds I am impressed. Usually I see them in FL in the left lane of a 70 MPH road going 62 with a line of cars a mile behind them trying to get around.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

rwidman
03-15-2011, 05:44 AM
not really a truck or trailer question, but probably the best place to ask is in this section.

I got a speeding ticket in Hawaii while on vacation. Zipping along "Saddle Road" on the big island early early morning from Hilo to Kona to be on time for my chartered fishing trip out of Kona -- so IMO a pretty darn good excuse to speed as i don't want to be late for fishing ;). (We went 1 for 5 for the day landing just one small 40#'ish striped marlin--kinda disappointing, but that's fishing).

What would happen if i don't pay this speeding ticket as i'm from Canada?

I'm not asking whether i should pay, just what would happen if i do not pay.

anyone know the truth on this one?

You would be better off asking this question on scofflaws.com. ;)

My opinion - You broke the law, you got caught. "Man up" and pay the fine.

bluewaterseeker
03-15-2011, 06:16 AM
HA! Sad but true. I-75 nightmare, the gov is even talking about a left lane driver law to allow ticketing folks that do this.


They should!

Northern states have done this for years.

Here in SC, people love to get beside each other and just ride. ;?
They will have people piled up behind them and the cops just seem to ignore it.

Joe
03-15-2011, 06:32 AM
It's doubtful anyone will come after you. Its doubtful that you'll ever even hear about it again...unless you ever go back to Hawaii..and only then I'd you try and rent a car, or get arrested.

bamaboy473
03-15-2011, 06:53 AM
It's doubtful anyone will come after you. Its doubtful that you'll ever even hear about it again...unless you ever go back to Hawaii..and only then I'd you try and rent a car, or get arrested.

I'm no attorney, but I tend to agree with Joe on this one. Seems like a relatively insignificant infraction to be worthy of placing it into a national LEO database...including Border Patrol.

Reel 007
03-15-2011, 07:08 AM
It's doubtful anyone will come after you. Its doubtful that you'll ever even hear about it again...unless you ever go back to Hawaii..and only then I'd you try and rent a car, or get arrested.


I agree with Joe, nothing will happen unless you return to Hawaii, I know in California if you receive a parking citation the rental company will charge the fine to your credit card, moving citation???????????.

SHAMROCK69
03-15-2011, 07:31 AM
Rental car companies charge a service fee too. On the George Bush toll road in Texas they don't take cash only a EZ Pass and my wife had no choice but to not pay. It was like a $5 charge from toll road plus $25 from the rental car agency.

Half-hitched
03-15-2011, 09:50 AM
Maybe they will send Dog the Bounty Hunter and his clan of goons after you.

Port Monster
03-15-2011, 12:47 PM
Prob. nothing - but the fines will continue to accrue and it will not go away. Most likely it is going to bite you in the ass one day - on your credit report or something stupid. I use to play that game and it got old fast - I just pay now, before any additional fines or penalties acrue, and move on my way.

nsh
03-15-2011, 12:53 PM
HA! Sad but true. I-75 nightmare, the gov is even talking about a left lane driver law to allow ticketing folks that do this.

Dont get too excited about that law, it recently went to effect in Louisiana, hasnt helped a dam bit!!

bc22
03-15-2011, 02:55 PM
alrightly guys,
much appreciate the incredible knowledge and wisdom so far (tongue in cheek).

again, I'm not asking whether i should pay, just what would happen if i do not pay.

FishinSturgeon
03-15-2011, 02:57 PM
If you dont pay it you will never win the Stanley Cup again!

DoubleO7
03-15-2011, 03:06 PM
If it is a "plead guilty and mail-it-in" ticket, I would pay it now.
In this day and age it is but a few keystrokes by a $10/hr data entry clerk to get the ticket into a database.
Then shared worldwide.
So if you ignore it, there will be court costs added, addition fines, yadda, yadda.

And the U.S. and Canada are actively trading criminal records that will show up whenever your passport is scanned.

Kamper
03-15-2011, 03:12 PM
If you had a licence issued in the USA I would expect that when you fail to show-up the Hawaiian judge would suspend your privilege to operate a motor vehicle and your home-state would be advised. They would notify you that your license is suspended pending resolution of the issue. If you got caught driving after that you would face that as a seperate charge. In some states presentng a suspended license is a crime in itself.

I don't know if we have any treaties with Canada that would apply this to you but it's quite possible the suspension would be effective anywhere in the USA. Additonally a bench warrant would be issued which could delay you significantly in any encounter with our law-enforcement agencies.

My advice is to either stay home or send in your check. Only a lawyer qualified to practice in Hawaii, that you've paid, can give you you more reliable advice than that.

Good luck!

rwidman
03-15-2011, 03:23 PM
alrightly guys,
much appreciate the incredible knowledge and wisdom so far (tongue in cheek).

again, I'm not asking whether i should pay, just what would happen if i do not pay.

OK, let me ask you this - Why did you even bother to post the question? ;?

Uncle Matt
03-15-2011, 03:25 PM
Here in the states if one gets a citation or commits a civil violation and fails to address the issue, their right or privledge gets suspended in that state. The kicker is that states now have reciprocal agreements between them. So lets say you got a ticket in Hawaii and fail to pay it but live in Arizona, this reciprocal agreement could allow Arizona to suspend your right to operate everywhere. But where you are from Canada I think your safe. Well, unless you drive in Hawaii!

Because speeding is a civil violation I don't think a warrant will be issued.

nmaz
03-15-2011, 04:06 PM
I don't know about Hawaii, but her in FL, this is what would happen: If a person visiting FL gets a speeding ticket (or any other non-criminal ticket) and the person does not pay, he (or she) will be issued a FL driver's license number, and that number would be immediately suspended. They would not issue an arrest warrant.

How does this affect you? If you are caught driving again in FL, it would show a suspended license, and you COULD be arrested for driving on a suspended license, depending on the police officer that stopped you. Most likely you would receive a criminal ticket giving you a court date. If you did not show up to court, the judge would issue a capias (arrest warrant) If you got stopped again, (3rd time, after not going to court) you would most certainly go to jail based on the capias.

Being that you are Canadian, I am sure that any warrant in the states would make your travel here very difficult.

May as well just pay the fine and avoid any headaches.

nmaz
03-15-2011, 04:11 PM
I guess that I should add this as well. If they issue a warrant for your arrest based on not showing up to court, you don't need to be caught driving to get arrested. Any contact with the police where they run your name will show the warrant, and off you go.

Boat Hound
03-15-2011, 04:35 PM
You would be better off asking this question on scofflaws.com. ;)

My opinion - You broke the law, you got caught. "Man up" and pay the fine.

x2 no big deal you don't need the hassle. I had a ticket from NY that caught up with me after I blew it off. Few years latter in NY for work and get stopped. It was fortunate for me that I was done for the day and heading to meet my brother in law, who happened to be NYPD, wrapping up his shift. You just dont need the hassle.

NEBassMan
03-15-2011, 10:51 PM
I skipped on a tix in Mass and it caught up w/ me 20 yrs later in PA which held up my driver license renewal in PA. PA said the only way to get my PA license was to clear the tix in Mass. Mass RMV said the only way to clear the tix was to get the originating jurisdiction to clear the tix. Turns out the originating court no longer existed (20 yrs later). This is only the begining of the story...

Pay the ticket. Money well spent.

Walleye Guy
03-15-2011, 11:30 PM
If you pay it early enough they might not report it to your insurance company. Pay now....or pay later.

ColonialRovers
03-16-2011, 01:57 AM
You need to determine is Canadian laws and US laws have any reciprocity with regards to traffic violations. If no then most likely they would issue you a HI Drivers License and suspend it, which may or may not catch up to you. But if there is reciprocity then your Canadian Lic will be suspended,

The fine can't be that ad just pay the thing off and go on with life....

I did find this, on getting a license, read between the lines there will be something out there that applies to you.
Note:

You cannot apply for a driver’s license if you are suspended in another province. See Section 51(r) of the Traffic Safety Act below:

Section 51 except as otherwise permitted under the Act, no person shall

(r) apply for, acquire or attempt to acquire an operator's license for that person's own use or in that person's name

1. during any period that the person is disqualified from driving a motor vehicle in Alberta, another province or territory of Canada or a state of the United States of America,
2. during any period for which that person's operator's license is suspended, or
3. during any period for which that person is disqualified from holding an operator's license in Alberta, another province or territory of Canada or a state of the United States of America, whether or not the period for which the person's operator's license was issued has expired.

http://www.transportation.alberta.ca/2556.htm

If this is in place my suspicion is that your situation of not paying will have an adverse effect on your Canadian License.

So call your local traffic solicitor and have a conversation or better yet pay it off.

baypro21
03-16-2011, 07:05 AM
alrightly guys,
much appreciate the incredible knowledge and wisdom so far (tongue in cheek).

again, I'm not asking whether i should pay, just what would happen if i do not pay.


It's a rhetorical question, you know what will happen. Nothing, unless you come to the US again and happen to get stopped again. I believe in Hawaii they shoot your right foot off for 2nd offenders who fled. You want to drive left footed for the rest of your life?

eazily-amused
03-17-2011, 04:13 PM
A good friend of mine who has lived in So Calif. for many years moved to Utah. Applied for a Utah drivers license and was informed that because he had an old ticket from Illinois (30 years ago!) he couldn't get a Utah license until it was cleared up. He had to fly to Chicago, hire a lawyer and spent over two weeks there until it was finally cleared up. Seems Illinois computerized ALL the old information so it's there forever. Now Canada may be different and no sweat from a US state but come on, pay the freakin ticket.

WNY PAT
03-18-2011, 10:11 AM
It is a citation, which you MUST answer. It won't go away - or be forgotten - especially in the age of computerization. If you don't pay, and don't show up in court for your "trial," a bench warrant may be issued for you. If you lived in the states, they would suspend your driver's license until you answered the charges or paid the fines in full. Will they track you down or chase you to Canada? Of course not. OTOH, if you get pulled over in Hawaii, they will make you pay the fines, surcharges, penalties, interest, court fees, etc. in full before you would be released and impound your car. If it is a rental - figure at least another $1000 in towing, impound and release fees (plus loss of use fees from the rental agency depending on how long it is in impound) because the rental company is going to retrieve the vehicle right away as it belongs to them. They will charge your credit card accordingly (can you say FEES) and never rent you a car again - probably NO rental company would ever rent to you again. I would imagine if you let it go for years, by the time you paid a local attorney to negotiate a settlement for you, you'd be paying somewhere north of $2000 including your attorney's fees in addition to the fines associated with whatever you had been nabbed for again. I am not certain of border crossing, but I wouldn't rule out issues if the officer and / or court have your Canadian license on file and you had an outstanding bench warrant in the States. Local and state police officers regularly do warrant checks (standard practice when they take your license back to their car) when they pull you over in the States - whether information from Hawaii makes it to the mainland, I don't know. Border Officers regularly turn back drivers from the states convicted of misdemeanor DWI, so it isn't THAT farfetched that it will be a part of their database too. But I'm sure the embarrassment (and inconvienience) of getting turned around at the border when you are with your family or friends is worth it. So.....

I'm making the assumption that you are either: 1. very arrogant and narcissistic and believe that for some reason you shouldn't have to pay the fines because you are special in some way and don't need to follow the law like the rest of us; or 2. young and naiive and believe that because this doesn't matter right now it will never matter. Either way, the smart thing to do is pay the minimal fine and move on. Don't you think? Eh?

jopheso
03-18-2011, 10:34 AM
Wow a Canadian that speeds I am impressed. Usually I see them in FL in the left lane of a 70 MPH road going 62 with a line of cars a mile behind them trying to get around.

They are doing 62 due to the conversion rate :)

Oviedochapparal
03-18-2011, 12:31 PM
Another case of a criminal fleeing across the border to avoid the long arm of the law.
As long as you don't get featured on Americas most wanted you will probable get away free.
Take your next tropical vacation in Cuba. Since you are Canadian you have that luxury to do it,
before they open Cuba to American travel, and you can avoid all those obnoxious American tourists.

jopheso
03-18-2011, 12:34 PM
so let me get this straight Ovie. You invite the canadian who openly admits to breaking the law by speeding and then asks about skipping out on the fine, but you call Americans, who are suggesting he pay his ticket, obnoxious?

Makes perfect sense.

Kamper
03-18-2011, 12:46 PM
Pay up,eh! If you don't all us drunken Americans are gonna come up there and wrestle your women and rape your polar bears.



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