Trucks & Trailers - All these locks. And in the end, stupid???

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OldPete
03-09-2011, 06:54 AM
Ok. So you can get a lock to lock the tongue on to the ball.
Ok. So you can get a lock to lock the receiver into the hitch.

What's the point when you can just unbolt the ball from the receiver?!?!?!?!


DVR
03-09-2011, 07:10 AM
Locks are for honest people. It is easier to cut a lock than remove the nut from a well used hitch ball.

rwidman
03-09-2011, 07:13 AM
You can weld the nut on. Or just mess up the threads.

The lock that locks the tongue to the ball also keeps someone from using their own ball if you're locking it by itself (not connected to the tow vehicle).

If a pro wants it bad enough and gets the opportunity, he will get it. That's why we have insurance.


Design59
03-09-2011, 10:23 AM
Really, all the locks only work for honest people, since you can lock the coupler, but two seconds with a socket and you can just remove the coupler latch.

I weld the nut on all my ball mounts, use a ball mount and coupler lock. If I am parking overnight in a hotel or something I unhook the safety chains pull them up over the hitch / truck frame, and lock them together with an extra lock I carry in the truck. Also pull the maxi fuse out of the truck.

Only person I know who has actually had something taken was a rep on the way to a show. They took the entire rig. Found it the next day with the new boat undisturbed, and the wheels and tires missing from the truck. Go figure.

Flot
03-09-2011, 10:45 AM
My bolt is welded, but my whole trailer is put together with bolts. :)

Joe
03-09-2011, 11:06 AM
My surge brake coupler is held on to the trailer with two 3/4" nuts on two 3/4" headed bolts. If someone really wanted it...wouldn't be hard to steal.

I've lost more trailer wiring adapters (round 7 to flat 4 and 5 wire) and valve stem caps stolen at the landing than anything else.

Ntrain2k
03-09-2011, 12:25 PM
The locks make it appear easier for the thief to steal someone elses boat.

fish factory
03-09-2011, 01:15 PM
"valve stem caps"............;?

OldPete
03-09-2011, 03:03 PM
The lock on the chain idea is GREAT! I'm going to go grab an extra lock. Thanks! :)

Joe
03-09-2011, 07:55 PM
"valve stem caps"............;?


Can't tell you why..but I've come back 3 times to have valve stem caps on the tow vehicle and trailer missing.

And why would someone steal a wiring adapter? I dunno..but I've had two of those stolen.

OldPete
03-10-2011, 04:57 AM
Can't tell you why..but I've come back 3 times to have valve stem caps on the tow vehicle and trailer missing.

And why would someone steal a wiring adapter? I dunno..but I've had two of those stolen.

"Remove wiring adapter when parked" just added to my list.

Thanks, Joe!

rwidman
03-10-2011, 05:16 AM
"Remove wiring adapter when parked" just added to my list.

Thanks, Joe!

Or do what I did - replace the trailer wiring harness with one that fit the tow vehicle without an adapter.

rwidman
03-10-2011, 05:17 AM
Can't tell you why..but I've come back 3 times to have valve stem caps on the tow vehicle and trailer missing.

And why would someone steal a wiring adapter? I dunno..but I've had two of those stolen.

My guess would by unsupervised kids doing it as a prank.

A Few Dollars
03-10-2011, 06:08 AM
The lock on the chain idea is GREAT! I'm going to go grab an extra lock. Thanks! :)

Isn't the chain just bolted to the trailer? ;?

rwidman
03-10-2011, 07:26 AM
You can get a cutter at Harbor Freight for a few dollars that will cut through most chains. And cheap locks.

aln
03-10-2011, 08:22 AM
Ok. So you can get a lock to lock the tongue on to the ball.
Ok. So you can get a lock to lock the receiver into the hitch.

What's the point when you can just unbolt the ball from the receiver?!?!?!?!

Then what??

A Few Dollars
03-10-2011, 08:23 AM
Stick the ball shaft into another drawbar and drive away.



Ha, ha I said "ball shaft" :grin:

aln
03-10-2011, 10:06 AM
good one ha ha huh hah

andrey
03-10-2011, 10:51 AM
When I park at a ramp overnight, I remove the trailer tongue and put it in the back of the car.

tommyr904
03-10-2011, 04:44 PM
take the lug nuts off.

Mist-Rest
03-10-2011, 06:37 PM
If I had to worry that much about it I would...

a) quit boating
b) find a better boating area
c) take my wheels off and use them as ballast.
d) make damn sure I was paid in full on the insurance and keep fishing.


Let 'em have it. They make more boats. :grin:

rwidman
03-11-2011, 07:17 AM
When I park at a ramp overnight, I remove the trailer tongue and put it in the back of the car.

For many trailers, that would be verry difficult to do. Especially if the trailer has brakes.

jerryclaybrook
03-11-2011, 07:29 AM
You can buy a ball and shaft that are welded together ( no bottom bolt) it is also stronger and costs nearly the same. I lock the pin and the coupler mechanism with the same key. Any good auto shop will have all this stuff total price under $50 bucks.

Severance
03-11-2011, 07:31 AM
If I had to worry that much about it I would...

a) quit boating
b) find a better boating area
c) take my wheels off and use them as ballast.
d) make damn sure I was paid in full on the insurance and keep fishing.


Let 'em have it. They make more boats. :grin:

X2,
In the Carolinas many of us leave extra coolers and other items in the back of the pickup while on the water and have never had anyone to bother anything. I know there is a first time for everything to happen but it seems that in our coastal areas most fisherman and boaters respect the property of others. Maybe we are lurking for problems.:thumbsup:

rayteagarden1
03-11-2011, 08:44 AM
The point is to make your trailer the hardest target in the marina or at the launch ramp.

Lotsa locks and spot welds on nuts to bolts.

Too much trouble to steal my rig. So they steal the other guys trailer. That is good.:)

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h211/rayteagarden/RayCharicture.jpg

rwidman
03-11-2011, 09:39 AM
X2,
In the Carolinas many of us leave extra coolers and other items in the back of the pickup while on the water and have never had anyone to bother anything. I know there is a first time for everything to happen but it seems that in our coastal areas most fisherman and boaters respect the property of others. Maybe we are lurking for problems.:thumbsup:
The crackhead who steals your cooler or trailer may or may not be a boater but he respects only his need for drug money. If you park your boat or trailer where they can find it, you are at risk.

Catmantoo
03-12-2011, 04:33 PM
I never was worried about all the locks figured that was what Insurance was for decided not to BLING out my trailer so it was not appealing but just thought after the CrackHead comment that it is aluminium and scrapable.....hmmm

Glock Diver
03-13-2011, 03:49 AM
Ooooh, you guys getting your valve stem caps stolen too??? :o

Need to get you some of them Cap Locks! Lock those puppies down!!! ;)



In all seriousness, I have trouble remembering what all my friggin boat/trailer keys are for. Its the largest key ring that I own!:
-key for receiver lock
-key for coupler latch
-key for coupler ball lock (the yellow one that fills up the space)
-key for spare tire padlock/cable
-key for trailer toolbox (not yet, but I'm getting one)
-BOAT Ignition key - the one that matters!

rwidman
03-13-2011, 05:16 AM
I never was worried about all the locks figured that was what Insurance was for decided not to BLING out my trailer so it was not appealing but just thought after the CrackHead comment that it is aluminium and scrapable.....hmmm

Yep, they sell them for scrap. Around here, they bust up people's air conditioners for the copper.

Goingdeep13
03-13-2011, 05:41 AM
A Few Dollars More

One side of the safety chains are bolted to the trailer but what the poster meant about locking the chains is the other end that get connected to the tow vehicle.
He probably runs them thru where they connect to the hitch and then runs a lock thru the chain. So know the saftey chains are LOCKED to the tow vehicle. One more visual deterrent.

Stay safe out there
Bryan

rayteagarden1
03-14-2011, 05:09 PM
All my locks are painted a different color.

Keys to those locks painted same color as the locks.

Much easier/quicker to figure out what goes where.

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h211/rayteagarden/RayCharicture.jpg



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