Trucks & Trailers - trying not to rip off my anchor follow up

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TICTACTUG
03-06-2011, 08:42 PM
Well, I still have some tweaking to do, but here it is....the new set up.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r83/tictactug/bowwinch001.jpg
I still have some stuff to like cutting off the part that had the old bow roller, figuring out the safety chain (the old one is too short) and then making final adjustments.

Overall, I'm excited to see it work. The bow stop has an opening down the middle.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r83/tictactug/bowwinch003.jpg
So it should load nicely. The old way, the bow roller had to go UNDER the bow eye. This mean the eye needed to jump the bow roller when unloading and loading, that and in order to do that, I had to float the boat too much, causing the anchor to want to make contact with it.

With the new install, I moved the entire winch set up forward about 12 inches and installed the stop.

I'll report back next week after I dump it in the water and see where I stand...


Pez Vela
03-06-2011, 09:10 PM
Very nice, but that bow stop scares me. I guess it'd be O.K. if you never power on and always winch the boat onto the trailer. If you come on crooked under power though, there's nothing on the bow stop to protect your boat from hitting metal. Can you devise a pad that wraps around a bit to give you full protection?

TICTACTUG
03-06-2011, 11:23 PM
Very nice, but that bow stop scares me. I guess it'd be O.K. if you never power on and always winch the boat onto the trailer. If you come on crooked under power though, there's nothing on the bow stop to protect your boat from hitting metal. Can you devise a pad that wraps around a bit to give you full protection?

What??? I guess I don't get what you are talking about.

Are you talking about the outside edge of the stop? Man, if I make contact with that, some serious other issues are at play... the least of which, at that point, would be the side of the boat touching the stop.


dahlbebop
03-06-2011, 11:34 PM
Alot of boats could use something like that. Patent pending? Looks good.;)

TICTACTUG
03-07-2011, 07:23 AM
No, not patent pending....I actually bought it from Loadmaster Trailer Company in Ohio.

They do these mostly painted, but I just waited until they did a set of production run galvanized. They set it up to kinda fit multiple trailers, and send all the hardware.

I had to cut some of the tubing to shorten it to make it work, but it's all fitting as designed. Again, it's going to take some tweaking, but it's 1000 times better than the old issues I had with the roller.

Lemke
03-07-2011, 09:49 AM
Very nice, but that bow stop scares me. I guess it'd be O.K. if you never power on and always winch the boat onto the trailer. If you come on crooked under power though, there's nothing on the bow stop to protect your boat from hitting metal. Can you devise a pad that wraps around a bit to give you full protection?

I was thinking the same thing... a strong cosswind when you're putting that boat on the trailer, and you just "gaffed" your Dorado. Ouch!

A corner pad of some sort on the square edges of the bow stop would make me feel better.

TICTACTUG
03-07-2011, 10:01 AM
I guess what you guys can't see is that the bow of the boat rides lower than the cross beam.

If a strong crosswind comes up to knock me off center....that means the keel of the boat is already crashed into the side of the trailer. I guess it's not impossible, but virtually impossible ;?

First the boat would have to jump the bunks, then the keel would have to ride between the outside of the bunk and the wheel well. Then I'd have to hit the throttle to ram it forward.

I powerload. So the tips of the bunks are out of the water. I line up, let the bunks center the boat, and then give it throttle to slide it forward. If I hit a heavy crosswind, and blow off course, this happens 5-10 feet away from the stop.

GulfC
03-07-2011, 10:24 AM
I posted earlier in the wrong thread:

TICTACTUG, same problem here but gone today. I'm still tweaking and finessing just yet but my problem is solved. Mine is a 2010 EZ Loader trailer with a pulpit on my Grady 228. Your set up will probably do the trick but the real problem is that gaping hole to the front of the trailer. Without forward bunks, the bow sinks into the bunk-less hole as the stern floats up and allows the pulpit to dip no matter where the boat is positioned when launching.

If you surf around the net looking at high-end new boats that have pulpits, look at the trailers. You'll see nearly all have forward bunks. My boat is being worked on with new electronics for the next week but when I get it back, I'll see if I can get some before and after pics for show n' tell.

...... also what the guys are saying can actually happen. In my case, it was because one of the bunks had been mounted about 3/4" out of alignment at the left front bunk attach point. The boat actually did go off the right side of the roller on one occasion; fortunately it didn't make metal contact.

TICTACTUG
03-07-2011, 10:52 AM
GulfC

My hopes are that I don't have to float it as much to have to hop the front bow eye over the bow roller, so hopefully no contact.

As far as the front bunks go....you hit the nail on the head. At the seattle boat show I talked to the EZloader guys and got no where.

What are you having done...and was it done by EZloader or someone else. My bow really does bury as it comes in because there is no support to the front. Likewise, same thing, when loading when the back floats, the front gets pushed down. Major oversight on EZ loaders part as far as I'm concerned. I just didn't really feel like running out and buying another trailer. Another gentlemen with my exact boat has a Tuff trailer with the forward bunks. He doesn't seem to be having the issues I was having.

bunger79
03-07-2011, 10:57 AM
Tictactug,

Had the same problem use to hate using my trailer. Got the same setup you have and never looked back. I power on and and off with out any problem. The boat sit sjust right in the cradle and never have to winch the boat on anymore. In and out of the ramp in 5 minutes vs 15-20 with the other setup. Enjoy one less thing to worry about. Oh and I feel this is the setup all trailers should go it. Just my 2 cents!

Chad

charlessnedeker
03-07-2011, 11:14 AM
I put side boards on about 10 feet on sides of trailer with carpet, like bass boats have. It helps in the wind & loads easer .

GulfC
03-07-2011, 02:08 PM
"What are you having done...and was it done by EZloader or someone else. "

Auer Marine did it for me; they've got a lift to do work like this. EZ was quick to provide fittings and Auer already had cross members. The only time I launched, it just "baaarrley" touched the anchor but that was with the main bunks mis-aligned. I've since aligned them and still need to tweak the forward bunks when I launch the next time. If I'm looking at it correctly, it should easily clear once the final adjustments are done.

Also, I sprayed silicone on the main bunks which helped tremendously by providing just the right amount of friction. Your set up will probably work fine. I saw that during research but they all seemed to be on CC's which would have less weight forward than a cabin type boat.

bone crusher
03-07-2011, 02:56 PM
nice looking solution to your problem, but if i may suggest you get longer u-bolts or those lock nuts will be ineffective.



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