Boat Shows and Photos - Miami Boat Show - Guess The Manufacture - 1
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JDBer94
02-23-2011, 08:06 PM
Does anyone have a guess as to the manufacture of this boat? One hint, it is a 33 - 36 foot high end center console. Overall I really liked the boat but saw this and it turned me off.
bumster
02-23-2011, 08:09 PM
I give up!
T-bone123
02-23-2011, 08:22 PM
Contender?
JDBer94
02-23-2011, 08:23 PM
Contender?
Nope...
jpwebb
02-24-2011, 05:21 AM
no clue, but looks like crap
nicktg
02-24-2011, 05:29 AM
Looks like a pic of the floor of the area inside the console.
If that's really what it is, then I wouldn't be worried much.
BarryD
02-24-2011, 05:50 AM
Dusky?
mscontender
02-24-2011, 05:59 AM
Invincible used to use PVC fittings? I thought they fixed it though? PVC and cheap hinge would def. turn me off!
A Few Dollars
02-24-2011, 06:01 AM
Single clamps on below deck water lines. :nono:
Team Legend
02-24-2011, 06:36 AM
Deep Impact?
BSpot
02-24-2011, 06:56 AM
Deep Impact?
Fountain?
Everglades?
JDBer94
02-24-2011, 07:25 AM
No correct answer yet....
knotsurfing
02-24-2011, 07:46 AM
Yellowfin
JDBer94
02-24-2011, 07:57 AM
Yellowfin
Nope.
I see three things that need to be addressed:
-Cheap home depot valve
-Single clamp below water line
-Deck joint exposed and the cut was so irregular my son (age 13) said “someone just did not care to do it right daddy.”
I saw these items and did not even take the time to open the bilge... what would have I have found there???
outlaw gunner
02-24-2011, 07:58 AM
blackwater
jupiter
triumphrick
02-24-2011, 07:59 AM
Hydra Sports...Pursuit..Mako..
Lazy Bones
02-24-2011, 08:03 AM
Sea Hunter, inside console
JayLeto
02-24-2011, 08:08 AM
Sea Hunter, inside console
I'm going with Seahunter also.
Jay
Boat_Boy
02-24-2011, 08:14 AM
SeaVee
Invincible
;?;?
JDBer94
02-24-2011, 08:22 AM
Sea Hunter, inside console
Correct......
gtrfred
02-24-2011, 08:25 AM
Nope.
I see three things that need to be addressed:
-Cheap home depot valve
-Single clamp below water line
-Deck joint exposed and the cut was so irregular my son (age 13) said “someone just did not care to do it right daddy.”
I saw these items and did not even take the time to open the bilge... what would have I have found there???
I dont know what boat it is, but I have to disagree with you about your first two items. I dont believe that those are issues in every circumstance. if for example, that is the drain from an above deck cooler into the boats bilge, i see no reason why the hoses need to be double clamped or why a pvc valve is not sufficient. if the hose and valve are exiting the hull beneath the water line, you are 100% correct. if it is all internal plumbing (not exiting the hull) and probably not even under pressure (given that there does not appear to be a pump in the picture) a single clamp with pvc is fine. from the picture that you show it appears to be internal plumbing.
I do agree with you that the raw cut is horrible.
Schmaltz~Herring
02-24-2011, 12:57 PM
That is just poor design and manufacture. :(
JDBer94
02-24-2011, 06:27 PM
A few more photos of the 35.
BigBone
02-24-2011, 09:14 PM
I hate to say this...,
...but the first one I ever saw was some time ago on a rack down in Coconut Grove next to Scotties, maybe 2006. The colored hull caught my attention so I went over for a closer look. I could only look at the hull and its lines and, from a distance, she looked really nice. When I got up close and looked at the chines/strakes, my goodness, it looked like a bad bondo job. I was amazed at how wavy and unfinished the hull looked. At the time, I'd never heard of the brand and thought maybe that hull was a prototype.
Kind of filed all that away but began to hear and see more of them--always liking the look. Then I read an interesting piece (THT) about some Wahoo tournament way out in the Bahamas where the conditions were so bad many boats did not fish. Apparently, the it did some amazing things that day under reportedly nearly unfishable conditions.
I looked at the website and was impressed by the performance numbers provided.
So I included it among the limited CC boats I would try to look at at the recent MB Show. At the show, time ran short and I could only look at the makers line up briefly. I did not notice the waviness I remembered so vividly from my first encounter, but what I did see very much surprised me: The thing had a plastic thru hull at what appeared to be the bilge pump exit. Ok, ok, I thought, but the exit is above the water line...not too critical.
Next, I move closer to the bow and there's another plastic thru hull at or below the waterline. Now I'm baffled because I suspect that this might be a $150k boat. So I say to myself, gee, these thru hulls must be made of some space-age new plastic that's tougher than stainless and lighter.
Nope. The fwd one was already cracked...right there at the show on full display.
Maybe there's a reason that I have not discovered...
Lazy Bones
02-25-2011, 06:13 AM
JDBer94 - not to nitpick, but those picks (including the console I believe) are of the 37, not the 35.
JDBer94
02-25-2011, 07:26 AM
JDBer94 - not to nitpick, but those picks (including the console I believe) are of the 37, not the 35.
Got ya, thanks..
doubledown
02-25-2011, 08:01 AM
JDBer, that raw cut inside our console was from the false floor we install for a bed inside the console. Its not a very popular option of ours but we wanted to show it since we are trying to soften up our hard core fishing image and add some family features. That false floor is under the bed and is covered by a hatch. Admittedly, we need to do a better job in finishing off that area and with practice, we'll get it.
As for our thru hulls, those are fiberglass thru hulls we custom make for each boat. NOT PLASTIC. They are painted wit the same hull color as the rest of the hull. We do that because the old stainless steel ones we used to use would bleed rust stains down the side of the boat after time and these do not. The boats look much cleaner over time. It is a small thing to address but we did.
On the positive side, we build one hell of a fishing boat and in terms of raw materials we are one of the most expensive boats being built. We use several (up to 12 layers in the keel and bow) layer of kevlar, very expensive fuel tanks, Carbon fiber hatches and high end fasteners. About one third of our production goes to commercial use (commercial fishing and government use). We have many boats with over 6000 hours that can be inspected and fished.
We aren't perfect but we're pretty good.
GeorgeCIRC
02-25-2011, 02:25 PM
I would agree that the SH is built to withstand severe commercial use and have experienced it firsthand over the last 6 years. You may be able to take away points for not having laser edges but I would not want to play chicken with any of their hulls. What people should be concerned with is what you're going to find when you dig down deep. All of these boats have pluses and minuses but some are just flat out misrepresented as solid; SeaHunter not being one of them.
Here are a couple of pics of a very popular Center Console taken at the show. This boat is portrayed as the best built, best running and one person even quoted that they have come a long way since inception; Looks like they still have a long way to go. The guy on the boat asked that no pictures be taken from below because the boat was not finished yet - I did get a chance to bang on the interior walls above deck and as far as I could tell, the boat is a potatoe chip above the water line.
Siemper Fi
George C.
gtrfred
02-25-2011, 02:57 PM
might this boat that has come a "long way" be one were it was questioned on a different thread if the boat was built with rigging tubes?
904polarized
03-17-2011, 11:30 AM
Yeah. Look at the second to last picture. What do you think is going to happen to those wires after a couple years as the boat is bouncing all over the place.
Oh and by the way, it was this manufacturer that claimed they were not finished with the plumbing and wiring even though the rigging looked complete with no rigging tubes.
The previous poster said that the salesman told him "the boat isn't 100% so please do not take any pictures". I guess they will be adding the rigging tubes to this boat later like the other thread/boat :bashhh:
DroppinLoads
03-18-2011, 07:27 AM
"the boat isn't 100% so please do not take any pictures"
Well, he isn't lying, the boat "isn't 100%", and he shouldn't want any pictures taken because it isn't "finished". Though,sadly, the boat maybe "complete".
I saw this boat and these were the inconsistencies I was talking about in another thread-- very disappointing. The work is sloppy no matter if they are going to go back and work on it more. There are a few things there that can't be made right because when they're done wrong once, they stay wrong.
flspy
04-04-2011, 06:21 AM
Disappointing. I saw one in West Palm and it looked like a really well thought out layout. Now i'm bummed out.
flspy
04-04-2011, 07:06 AM
Nope.
I see three things that need to be addressed:
-Cheap home depot valve
-Single clamp below water line
-Deck joint exposed and the cut was so irregular my son (age 13) said “someone just did not care to do it right daddy.”
I saw these items and did not even take the time to open the bilge... what would have I have found there???
What valves do you recommend?
BigBone
04-06-2011, 11:52 AM
This is not a bash, because I do like the boats, but the truth is:
Pretty sure fiberglass is.....well, plastic. In fact, the Brits call it GRP (glass reinforced plastic). But here's what matters: if it doesn't happen at the time of original installation due to simple over tightening (it apparently did), then one day, when you arrive at a dock or brush lightly against some protrusion (which will happen at some point), the plastic thru hull will be sheared off, but a big beefy brass/bronze/stainless one will not.
On the boat I saw at the MB Show, the thru-hull at or below the waterline on the starboard side near the point of entry was plastic and cracked--not a hairline or insignificant (does such a thing exist?) crack, but a real, obvious crack in the thru hull.
Honestly, out of straight-forward concern (think pretty girl with spinach in her teeth kind of thing), I looked around for a rep to show it to so they could swap it out after hours.
Just stop using those things.
Schmaltz~Herring
04-07-2011, 12:10 PM
Who is the manufacturer? ;?