Northeast - Scituate to P-Town 21' outrage

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crich
03-05-2010, 01:50 PM
looking at buying a 2000 21' BW Outrage (post classic deep v) and am curious if this boat is good to go for a run with family to P-town provided good weather. would be leaving from Scituate so like 26 miles. just wanted to get some input on that trip with 21', if watch weather and play it smart is that a reasonable trip for 21'? any input appreciated. thanks


cuda_bh
03-05-2010, 01:59 PM
I've made the trip from Plymouth in a Parker 18.
Check the weather though.
Coming back in the afternoon can be rough when the SW shore breeze kicks up.

crich
03-05-2010, 02:15 PM
a buddy of mine a former commercial fisherman looked at a picture of the boat and said i would be able to do that no problem. mentioned the wind in the summer kicks up midday so go early come back late afternoon to avoid. just i will be bringing wife and 7 and 9 year old kids want to make sure I wont be exceeding the boats capabilities (or my families rather). boat is suposed to cruise close to 30mph and its 26miles over seems reasonable if you check weather you should be able to plan accordingly...just wanted to get some feedback from those who have done it and whether that is reasonable trip. glad to hear it was no problem in the Parker 18. Thanks for the input. anyother input appreciated too. thanks


gf
03-05-2010, 02:30 PM
The boat can do it. Your wife and kids may not enjoy it, however.

The trip over is easier than the trip back. As mentioned above, the seas generally kick up later in the day.

One alternative would be to stay over. You can head over early in the morning, get a mooring in P'town, spend the day and night and then head home early the next morning.

For what it's worth, however, P'town is not my idea of a family friendly destination with kids of 7 and 9. You might want to think about Wellfleet instead.

Mijoy2
03-05-2010, 02:40 PM
Point to point it is less then 26 miles. Considerably less, maybe 20 or so. I think it may be 26 if you include the ride around the hook of Race Point past Wood End into Ptown Harbor. That will add about another 6 or so. I used to go all the time in a 18' Privateer many moons ago. As others have warned, the weather can kick up but as long as you watch the forcast you will be fine.

crich
03-05-2010, 04:09 PM
ok cool. never done it before but was thinking if there was a good weather stretch in summer some time I might try and go to beaches over by p-town somewhere stay over one night there then head to wellfleet harbor stay with family in eastham and headback next day. assume there are some decent more deserted stretches of beach out that way. i have been to the barrier beach in wellfleet harbor, very nice. must be something out by P-town truro too that is family friendly/deserted. worst case send fam by by cab but hopefully if weather good plan well could be a very cool summer trip. thanks for input. most apprecitated

Speedy Too
03-05-2010, 04:19 PM
The morning ride will be easy. wait for
an August day when they say west winds 5-10........If the SW kicks up it will be a long wet ride. That boat will take much more weather than your crew

BACKTOTHESEA
03-05-2010, 04:43 PM
Not sure how prepared you can be for the weather when you are staying somewhere overnight. They have trouble forecasting for 12 hours, never mind 24.

I have been out there many times in a 20' up to my 26' CC. There is a difference between getting beat up with a few guys in rain gear who have sea legs versus the wife and 2 young children, unless they are used to getting wet on occassion and a hard 1 to 2 hour ride if it gets a little sloppy. The boat is certainly capable, its not the Bermuda triangle.

crich
03-05-2010, 05:43 PM
got it thanks for the color. have to have plan B for fam if things turn against me weather wise. boat is capable of that run in and of itself. very helpful just trying to frame out how to think about any excursion there.

Lprizman
03-05-2010, 06:53 PM
a Slampadge,,,good/solid boat,,,,but none of the fixins for comfort,,been there done that.

they are great boats,,quite the pounding

Sweetwater
03-07-2010, 01:53 PM
I've made the trip from Plymouth in a Parker 18.
Check the weather though.
Coming back in the afternoon can be rough when the SW shore breeze kicks up.

Definitely check the weather. The SW can get very nasty after about 2:00p during summer months. I've done the run many times in a 35' Fortier between Green Harbor and Race Point and have had some wild rides.

amarshall
03-08-2010, 11:59 AM
You also have to check the tides. There's a ton of water coming into the bay with a high tide and the SW wind is ripping, it gets NASTY at the race and 3/4s of the way across the bay. If the tide is coming out, the bay will flatten out, even with a heavy SW wind.

The other thing is to be careful in a NW coming across. It might be blowing 30 mph out of the NW and it doesn't seem like a bad run across. You get all the way over there and say OH SHIT. Had that happen more times than I can count. You try and convince yourself on the way over that these 6 foot waves you are going over the back of, really aren't 6 foot. When in fact they are more than 6 foot and you are going to get a raping on the way back. :grin:

When we used to keep our boat in Weymouth, we had to follow the P-town ferry (the bum boat) back a few times. What really sucked was when you couldn't keep up and he pulled away from you. You'd get left out in the middle of the bay in a small center console in 6-8s.

JoeR2
03-09-2010, 02:46 PM
I've done it in an 18, and I've done it in a 20. One thing I will say is that I would never take my kids, both under 10 years. Too much can go wrong, and despite the fact that it's cape cod bay, things can change fast and a 21 is still a 21. At least do it yourself a few times to get the feel for it. I once spent a weekend fishing ptown. on the way home, it was 2-4's with the occasional 5 footer. NOAA made it sound like no biggie, but the wind and tide were against me. The wife and kids would have been freaked - it took 3 hours and I rode every single wave home and didn't see any other boats within several miles of my course. Had I lost power and turned beam to - forget about it. Taking your own chances is one thing, taking chances for the family is another. Just my opinion.

usmarinekurt
03-09-2010, 04:13 PM
I've done it in an 18, and I've done it in a 20. One thing I will say is that I would never take my kids, both under 10 years. Too much can go wrong, and despite the fact that it's cape cod bay, things can change fast and a 21 is still a 21. At least do it yourself a few times to get the feel for it. I once spent a weekend fishing ptown. on the way home, it was 2-4's with the occasional 5 footer. NOAA made it sound like no biggie, but the wind and tide were against me. The wife and kids would have been freaked - it took 3 hours and I rode every single wave home and didn't see any other boats within several miles of my course. Had I lost power and turned beam to - forget about it. Taking your own chances is one thing, taking chances for the family is another. Just my opinion.

I would not take my family in a boat that small on that ride.
Out a few miles-here or there but nothing more

CrazyCapeCodder
03-14-2010, 03:40 PM
Done the trip in a 17' Whaler. Check the weather, if its even a slight chance of rollers don't go, and make sure your gas tanks full

bobb
03-14-2010, 05:54 PM
No problem. As others have said, watch the weather be ready to stay overnight if weather turns, don't get a case of get-home-itis..
And, be prepared to get wet....

After you get bored of P-town, check out Wellfleet.... Great spot...

CindyLou
03-15-2010, 11:42 AM
One option if it's too rough for the family would be to send them back on the P-town-Plymouth ferry. Like others have said, as long as you watch the weather your ride over in the AM is likely to be easy. You just never know for the return. I agree with above that you should do the trip yourself (maybe with a buddy) first, just to get the feel...especially if you've never been out more than few miles on a boat. But, if a breeze fills in (tough to forecast), even if it's just choppy, I wouldn't want to be 20 miles from home with a 7 and 9yr old on board a 21'. Maybe get the family used to more local trips this season and only do the P-town run if you get glassy conditions. Make sure you have all safety equipment, and your wife knows how to operate the boat too. Have fun.

JoeR2
03-15-2010, 12:21 PM
This thread is interesting to me and not just because I've done this trip in small boats numerous times. What's interesting is that those who say it's OK make certain assumptions about the OP. What's his experience level? How is he under pressure? What kind of shape is the motor in, what about safety gear? Does he file a float plan? Hey, if it's flat calm, you can do this on a surfboard, but I worked up to it, few miles further out each time, until I was at the point that I was fishing half way across the bay. Personally, I think it's crazy to take young kids on a small boat across the bay, but like I say, it’s just my opinion.

CindyLou
03-15-2010, 12:36 PM
Great point JoeR2...I guess I (and others?) just assumed he was an experienced boater...but I guess we shouldn't assume. If this is his first boat, he needs to get some near shore experience before he even thinks about this trip.

BAFA
03-15-2010, 03:20 PM
It is all about the weather.... If you don't want your family to go out with you any more take them in 2-4. If you like them wait for 1ft or less.

Thanks



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