Northeast - Mandatory PFD's in NY from Nov 1- May 1- Whose going to wear one?

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catchbigtuna
02-08-2010, 12:05 PM
How many guys fishing in NY are going to follow the mandatory life jacket law they passed last winter requiring all person(s) on a boat 21ft or less to have a life jacket on all the time while on the boat?


LI32
02-09-2010, 04:36 AM
I would, and actually usually do wear an inflatable year round when I am fishing (virtualy always alone) on my 13' Whaler; and alsways on my Jetskis.

steveditt
02-09-2010, 05:42 AM
I thought it was less than 21 ' and is it only underway ? Being someone who came as close to going over in a 23' foot I can understand the reason. I also understand the water temperature is much colder but also have a problem on a nice calm day .


dirty bottom
02-09-2010, 06:05 AM
Wearing a inflatable PFD is really not a big deal. Why not wear one is the better question? What do you really gain by not wearing a pfd? The modern life jackets are very comfortable, if yours is not comfortable it is time to go shopping and get a new one.

AlloyToy
02-09-2010, 08:38 AM
Wearing a inflatable PFD is really not a big deal. Why not wear one is the better question? What do you really gain by not wearing a pfd? The modern life jackets are very comfortable, if yours is not comfortable it is time to go shopping and get a new one.
^^^^^^^^^^

gerg
02-09-2010, 10:21 AM
If you go to defender.com, you can find helly hanson closeouts on inflatable pfd's at insane prices. They are getting out of the opfd biz, but the rearm kits are standard.

$53 for an auto model isn't a price you should resist. They are comfortable. I insist my kids wear them even on calm nights on the water or any time the seas are rough (I wear them too). And my boat isn't a bay boat.

Brezinup
02-09-2010, 11:52 AM
The question that should be asked is; "Why are you mandated to wear a life preserver?"

LI32
02-10-2010, 06:37 AM
I insist my kids wear them even on calm nights on the water or any time the seas are rough (I wear them too). And my boat isn't a bay boat.

I think you are wrong - those 35' downeast's aren't good for anything but a canal or really narrow bay:grin::grin::grin:

What is the percentage (of the overall 750 deaths boating a year) of people who died from drowning while aboard/operating boats 21' and under (including canoe's, jet ski's and kayak's)- in 2006-2008 it was over 70%, and a substatial percentage were preventable with pfd's; the percentage of drowning deaths in boats 30'+ was less than 3%.

KarlP
02-10-2010, 09:35 AM
^^^^ Sure under 21' boats are generally less stable than over 30' boats. However I suspect the sheer number of under 21' boats and their lower operating costs means far more time is spent on the water in under 21' boats than over 30' boats in this country. That will certainly contribute to the stats you quote.

I personally only find life jackets uncomfortable when its over 90 degrees. IME, kids overheat quickly in a life jacket when the boat is traveling down wind. Its not as much of a problem with adults where you can get small inflatables, but can still get uncomfortable. I can't think of any reason for me not to wear another layer in COLD weather.

Biff123
02-10-2010, 06:58 PM
>The question that should be asked is; "Why are you mandated to wear a life preserver?"

A. Because the Coasties have become tired of pulling out bodies of people who passed out from hypothermia and drowned, whereas a pfd could have kept that person alive even if unconscious.

>How many guys fishing in NY are going to follow the mandatory life jacket law?..

A. It's the law. They catch you, you will get anything from a warning, to a summons and escorted back to the dock (depending on your attitude). Cold water without a pfd is like highway driving without a seatbelt. Your call..

PS - The law is "boats UNDER 21ft", "while underway"

Brezinup
02-10-2010, 07:14 PM
A. Because the Coasties have become tired of pulling out bodies of people who passed out from hypothermia and drowned, whereas a pfd could have kept that person alive even if unconscious.

I'm glad that the legistrators of NYS are watching out for those incapable of taking care of themselves.

AlloyToy
02-11-2010, 03:52 AM
I'm glad that the legistrators of NYS are watching out for those incapable of taking care of themselves.

It's not that complicated....don't wear it and pay the fine that's all;?

Unfortunately in boating you need not have brains to own a boat....just money. And yes there are many on the water that are incapable of taking care of themselves and probably should not be out there:nono:

Brezinup
02-11-2010, 04:17 AM
It's not that complicated....don't wear it and pay the fine that's all

Actually it's a little more complicated than that.

1. If you go into cold water, you're going to need more than a PFD to survive.
2. It's still government intrusion. If you like it, well then good for you. But most don't.

LI32
02-11-2010, 05:21 AM
[quote=KarlP;2777120
I personally only find life jackets uncomfortable when its over 90 degrees. IME, kids overheat quickly in a life jacket when the boat is traveling down wind. Its not as much of a problem with adults where you can get small inflatables, but can still get uncomfortable. I can't think of any reason for me not to wear another layer in COLD weather.[/quote]

Unless global warming really gets gowing (and it certainly doesn't look like it will after all the snow NY has gotten the past 4 winters), it has never been above 80 degrees from 11/1-5/1 in NY; and it is rarely above 65 during that time frame, so overheating should not be an issue.

AlloyToy
02-11-2010, 06:06 AM
Actually it's a little more complicated than that.

1. If you go into cold water, you're going to need more than a PFD to survive.
2. It's still government intrusion. If you like it, well then good for you. But most don't.

Again...if you feel that stongly don't wear it....people don't wear seat belts, people drink & drive, people speed, people text while driving.......and yes we all know about the ability of cold water having lost a great guy and fisherman off Montauk a year and a half ago.....

Honestly....I'm sure somewhere especially in your state there is someone whom perished be it a man, woman or child that wished they had a PFD on.....

SeaJay
02-11-2010, 10:15 AM
We all make choices. If the coasties do not like pulling dead bodies out of the water there are other job choices.

freeporttuna
02-11-2010, 10:54 AM
I spend alot of time on the water duck hunting alone in nov dec jan.I diddent need a law to wear a PFD.

Brezinup
02-11-2010, 11:15 AM
I spend alot of time on the water duck hunting alone in nov dec jan.I diddent need a law to wear a PFD.

BINGO! :thumbsup:

randall
02-11-2010, 12:38 PM
its not the thought its the LAW. why not just make boating in winter illegal and be done with it?

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