Northeast - Anyone know this boat? BHM Downeast....87' all comments welcomed

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The Newport Guy
02-05-2010, 06:47 AM
I posted earlier a 25ft Terry Jason needing a refit but the boat is just a bit to small for our liking. Really like the BHM boats.....They also have a nice 25 well fitted etc but again a bit to small. We are going to explore the attached boat and curious if anyone knows this boat, (I know its a long shot) looked or inquired on it before, comments on the older 28BHM (same hull design as the newer 28 BHM?) etc etc... any words of wisdom would be great all, pricing, what to look for in specific in this boat, thanks again. Would be getting fully serveyed anyway if we were to ever go forward.


(From basic to advanced comments, I am a newbie compared to many of you here regards to boating....thanks in advance for your help...)

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1987/Bhm-Downeast-1926693/York/ME/United-States


hanson
02-05-2010, 08:55 AM
Nice boat ,but for the dough and your investment go diesel,you'll be sorry.Check out UncleHenrys.com often as you can and be able to pounce.You will come across nice boats for fair prices IMO,Peter PS: Keep an eye out for AJs,Webbers Cove,Mitchell Cove,Crooked River,there are a lot of diamonds in the rough in these times,Good Luck

The Newport Guy
02-05-2010, 09:01 AM
Thanks, your the second person that has mentioned this. Wonder what an engine swap of a equally powered diesel would run in the future? The only good point is this is a 10-12mph boat and should not get to thirsty.... If I could get the boat at the right price an engine swap down the road could make it still appealing? Its an old engine in her now but low hours in the 600 range... are you referring to consumption or safety (or both) with the gas engine?

Nice boat ,but for the dough and your investment go diesel,you'll be sorry.Check out UncleHenrys.com often as you can and be able to pounce.You will come across nice boats for fair prices IMO,Peter PS: Keep an eye out for AJs,Webbers Cove,Mitchell Cove,Crooked River,there are a lot of diamonds in the rough in these times,Good Luck


Mine Now
02-05-2010, 10:19 AM
plenty of options out there
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huBIPK6jh6o&feature=related

Door#3
02-05-2010, 01:47 PM
If I could get the boat at the right price an engine swap down the road could make it still appealing?

I think the advice you are getting regarding a diesel for that type of hull is good. People did have them built with gas to save $ on the build. Those hulls were designed with diesel in mind.

If you decide that you want a diesel, then spend the extra and get one now. Converting a gasser to diesel will be way more expensive than paying more for a properly equipped boat in the first place.

When my wife and I were shopping we were locked on to a down east style boat. We spend three years shopping to find what we wanted at the right price. Keep at it and be patient. You'll get there :-)

hanson
02-05-2010, 03:25 PM
Door,well put.People dont always know theres more to changing from gas to diesel than the engine.Items like shaft size,red gear,props,fuel lines,filtration,instrumentation,cables,shifters and on and on.Besides that BHM,which is a great boat doesnt command that price with a gas engine...........Id grab a Fortier 26 with a Yanmar for less money all day.

The Newport Guy
02-05-2010, 04:13 PM
thank you and thanks all for the comments....

the owner make come back in price, to 50K range wich is much different then the 62K advertised. .... does any price (withen reason) for this boat as equipped as it sits currently with gas engine make sense? Please note, I do not plan on any epic rides.... just some light jaunts etc.. if the main reason for the diesel is consumption it maybe less of a concern for my use. If there are other important issues please let me know... I could use the schooling and would apprecaite it as well. Thanks again all...

any gas'rs out there feel this boat as equipped with Gas is less an issue ifwell boaught again at 50K rather then 60+ as advertised...thanks



Door,well put.People dont always know theres more to changing from gas to diesel than the engine.Items like shaft size,red gear,props,fuel lines,filtration,instrumentation,cables,shifters and on and on.Besides that BHM,which is a great boat doesnt command that price with a gas engine...........Id grab a Fortier 26 with a Yanmar for less money all day.

casco_schooner
02-05-2010, 05:32 PM
there's been a 32 Brendan for sale for awhile 65k twin diesels looks very nice

sandy tows
02-08-2010, 07:19 AM
The gas engine wont give you the performance of fuel economy of a diesel, but if you are aware of that, then you will like the smoother and quiter sound of the gas engine.
That boat says it has a max speed of 12 kts, so its cruise is probably more like 10kts. if you are comfortable witth that. maybe this is the boat for you, but I think it is still over priced, considering it is 23 years old.
You said in your other thread that you had 7-10k to put into refurb. that money would be well spent upgrading a newer, but a little rougher boat.
Jason makes a 28. Not all 28s are created equal, a crucial measurment in lobster hulls is the distance from main bulkhead to transom. the main bulkhead is where the helm is mounted, and different builder put it in dofferent places. the Jason 28 has it fairly far forward for a 28 when compared to a duffy, BHM or Beal. the effect is on deck the boat "feels" bigger, because you have more space. Beam make a big difference too.
I think you will be happier in the 28' range that you are in now rather than the 25-26' range you were looking at. check out uncle henry's online here are some I found on there. Remember EVERYTHING on Yachtworld is overpriced by at least 10%
http://www.unclehenrys.com/init/ads/ad_detail/3589678?_next=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.unclehenrys.com%2Fi nit%2Fsearch%2Fresults%2F1
Probably slow, but the Novi boats are Very beamy and have the bulkhead far forward.
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_full_detail.jsp?slim=broker&boat_id=2056965&ybw=&hosturl=billyoliver&&ywo=billyoliver&&units=Feet&access=Public&listing_id=74591&url=&hosturl=billyoliver&&ywo=billyoliver&
A little above your range, but that is what $70000 can get you.
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_full_detail.jsp?slim=broker&boat_id=2087722&ybw=&hosturl=billyoliver&&ywo=billyoliver&&units=Feet&access=Public&listing_id=74591&url=&hosturl=billyoliver&&ywo=billyoliver&
$10k could do alot to that boat
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_full_detail.jsp?slim=broker&boat_id=1584615&ybw=&hosturl=billyoliver&&ywo=billyoliver&&units=Feet&access=Public&listing_id=74591&url=&hosturl=billyoliver&&ywo=billyoliver&
A little old, but lots of room, notice how far forward the main bulkhead is on the harris design, this means lots of room.
Have all these boats checked for moisture, especally the ones that are more than 10years old

As I looked over my posts more I really like the last one, looks very nice with a diesel for short money, just makre sure the boats is as nice under the paint as she looks on top, afterall it is almost 30 years old.

The Newport Guy
02-08-2010, 10:11 AM
Great data thanks for that.... I did see many of the boats you noted (again thanks) But your last option is the one I liked best and one I have visited a few times in reviewing whats out there....

The 50K range is where I prefer to be but not at the trade off where I could get triple the possible head aches. So I have started to expand the search just a bit and did find a more expensive boat that really has us interested in exploring. Lay out, design, functionality, reviews etc...(not at the listed price of this one but in the 70-80K range if one could be found, well kept etc in that $ and 03+)

Thoughts?

.. I realize I am opening up to a world of other considerations if I ever cross the line to this $..... but even at this $ have not see anything that both wifey and I like...I really like this and wife does as well... may view a local one for sale soon.

any comments welcomed

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2003/Mainship-Pilot-2-2095591/Mystic/CT/United-States

thanks

The gas engine wont give you the performance of fuel economy of a diesel, but if you are aware of that, then you will like the smoother and quiter sound of the gas engine.
That boat says it has a max speed of 12 kts, so its cruise is probably more like 10kts. if you are comfortable witth that. maybe this is the boat for you, but I think it is still over priced, considering it is 23 years old.
You said in your other thread that you had 7-10k to put into refurb. that money would be well spent upgrading a newer, but a little rougher boat.
Jason makes a 28. Not all 28s are created equal, a crucial measurment in lobster hulls is the distance from main bulkhead to transom. the main bulkhead is where the helm is mounted, and different builder put it in dofferent places. the Jason 28 has it fairly far forward for a 28 when compared to a duffy, BHM or Beal. the effect is on deck the boat "feels" bigger, because you have more space. Beam make a big difference too.
I think you will be happier in the 28' range that you are in now rather than the 25-26' range you were looking at. check out uncle henry's online here are some I found on there. Remember EVERYTHING on Yachtworld is overpriced by at least 10%
http://www.unclehenrys.com/init/ads/ad_detail/3589678?_next=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.unclehenrys.com%2Fi nit%2Fsearch%2Fresults%2F1
Probably slow, but the Novi boats are Very beamy and have the bulkhead far forward.
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_full_detail.jsp?slim=broker&boat_id=2056965&ybw=&hosturl=billyoliver&&ywo=billyoliver&&units=Feet&access=Public&listing_id=74591&url=&hosturl=billyoliver&&ywo=billyoliver&
A little above your range, but that is what $70000 can get you.
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_full_detail.jsp?slim=broker&boat_id=2087722&ybw=&hosturl=billyoliver&&ywo=billyoliver&&units=Feet&access=Public&listing_id=74591&url=&hosturl=billyoliver&&ywo=billyoliver&
$10k could do alot to that boat
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_full_detail.jsp?slim=broker&boat_id=1584615&ybw=&hosturl=billyoliver&&ywo=billyoliver&&units=Feet&access=Public&listing_id=74591&url=&hosturl=billyoliver&&ywo=billyoliver&
A little old, but lots of room, notice how far forward the main bulkhead is on the harris design, this means lots of room.
Have all these boats checked for moisture, especally the ones that are more than 10years old

As I looked over my posts more I really like the last one, looks very nice with a diesel for short money, just makre sure the boats is as nice under the paint as she looks on top, afterall it is almost 30 years old.

sandy tows
02-08-2010, 03:43 PM
WOW, movin into a whole nother class of boats now, but the wife has to like the boat.
Mainships had some warranty issues, but overall a decent boat.
You seem to be kind of all over the map on boat style, have you been going to the boat shows this spring and bringing the wife along to get inside and check out the different styles and designs? Boston boat show had a good layout last year, you should check it out.

boatmanalso
02-08-2010, 03:49 PM
thank you and thanks all for the comments....

the owner make come back in price, to 50K range wich is much different then the 62K advertised. .... does any price (withen reason) for this boat as equipped as it sits currently with gas engine make sense? Please note, I do not plan on any epic rides.... just some light jaunts etc.. if the main reason for the diesel is consumption it maybe less of a concern for my use. If there are other important issues please let me know... I could use the schooling and would apprecaite it as well. Thanks again all...

any gas'rs out there feel this boat as equipped with Gas is less an issue ifwell boaught again at 50K rather then 60+ as advertised...thanks

I'm not sure how the condition is compared the that 28bhm but there is one of those for sale locally with a tamd41p for about the same money. It is being used as a lobster boat but I believe it was built as a picnic lobster.



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