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BigBen72
05-03-2009, 04:37 AM
Alright everyone I just want to take to take a vote of witch 40 or 41 foot express style sport fising boat that THT recomends. I was thinking of a 40 Cabo or a 41 ALBEMARLE any other out there.


riffraff2
05-03-2009, 05:44 AM
43 Viking....

Sleeper
05-03-2009, 06:10 AM
Are you looking at new boats or used? The 43 Viking is no longer made.


LI32
05-03-2009, 06:12 AM
Are you stuck on 40'
I like the 38' Cabo better than the 40; the 40' Topaz nevre did much for me; but the new 42' Viking looks like the king of the hill.
There aren't many choices in the 40-41' range for hard core fishing boats - Albemarle, Cabo and Topaz are it.

leprechaunrybo
05-03-2009, 06:17 AM
This a custom boat builder that is doing sme work for me. The drawing does not do the boat justice. The plans for the express version are awesome and the price is a give away.

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2010/Custom-Carolina-Crown-Marine-2051262/Wake/VA/United-States

BigBen72
05-03-2009, 04:45 PM
I am thinking of a 41 albemarle. Any thoughts

offshorebri
05-03-2009, 05:20 PM
42 Henriques..................

RumBumBermuda
05-03-2009, 05:36 PM
-Gamefisherman 42, 43, 45, or 48 Express

-Spencer 43

-Shearline 43 WA/Express

-BD 48

-Ricky Scarbourough 36 (under 40', but one hell of a boat)

-Scopinich 35 (again, under 40', but f--kin nice. We had one before the 350 Abaco)

-and when Tim Winters builds an express in that size range, add it to the top of the list. I'm gonna add one to my dock. ;cool;

BigBen72
05-03-2009, 05:48 PM
Worked on a Gamefisherman back in the day. Super over rated. Would rather fish a bayliner. Henriques makes a really nice boat. I am not into the custom boats. I like spencer but there express is not there strong point.

RumBumBermuda
05-03-2009, 05:55 PM
Would rather fish a bayliner.

That makes a hell of a lot of sense. :roll I wouldn't buy a Gamefisherman either, but they're damn good boats.

And the 43 isn't Spencer's "strong point"???????? Spencer doesn't have a "weak" point, so I'm guessing you don't know what you're talking about (??). not sure. Spencer's are by far some of the best boats on the water. We used to own a 60, I now have a 66 on order. Paul Spencer knows how to build em.

Albemarle's are damn good boats, though, so that would be a good choice I would think.

jaxfishgyd
05-03-2009, 05:57 PM
Cabo and Tiara..

Fubar512
05-03-2009, 06:07 PM
If you're considering used boats, I'd also look at a '43 Hatteras Express. Built like a tank at 38,000 + lbs displacement, walk in engine room, big cabin, big fwd stateroom, good-sized cockpit. This example listed here, however, is reportedly not as nice as the images lead you to believe: http://www.boatquest.com/Power/Hatteras/Category/Length/81040/Feet/USD/1/boats_pictures.aspx

RumBumBermuda
05-03-2009, 06:09 PM
If you're considering used boats, I'd also look at a '43 Hatteras Express. Built like a tank at 38,000 + lbs displacement, walk in engine room, big cabin, big fwd stateroom, good-sized cockpit. This example listed here, however, is reportedly not as nice as the images lead you to believe: http://www.boatquest.com/Power/Hatteras/Category/Length/81040/Feet/USD/1/boats_pictures.aspx

I'll second that.

PtJudeRI
05-03-2009, 06:12 PM
I would throw the 42 Henriques into the market as well. For fishability, I would put that at the top of the heap... The amenities are middle of the road as far as luxury, but the hardware is top notch and the ride is phenomenal...

Phat Tuna
05-03-2009, 06:32 PM
Big Ben..Not much input on the 40+ size. I have been looking in the 35-38 size. How much more performance, helm size, cockpit size does the 40+ give

Luke 1386
05-03-2009, 06:36 PM
Cabo 40, Out Island 38, upcoming Viking 42 (should be especially sweet w/ IPS)

BigBen72
05-03-2009, 07:30 PM
Thanks everyone. Sorry to those who think that spencer is the end all boat. Unfornantly I do know what I am talking about. Your spencer 60 and 66 are some of the best boats on the water. I agree with that, but that is his strong point. Don't get me wrong the spencer express is an amazing boat, but not really what I am looking for.

I like the 40 cabo and the 41 albemarle both of whitch are new. The cabo has allot of "bling" but the albemarle eats the ocean from what I have seen. Yea I know they are not custom, but a production boat is so much eaiser to get serviced and that is a big part in my decision.

makosteve66
05-03-2009, 07:46 PM
If you're considering used boats, I'd also look at a '43 Hatteras Express. Built like a tank at 38,000 + lbs displacement, walk in engine room, big cabin, big fwd stateroom, good-sized cockpit. This example listed here, however, is reportedly not as nice as the images lead you to believe: http://www.boatquest.com/Power/Hatteras/Category/Length/81040/Feet/USD/1/boats_pictures.aspx

I am curious as to what is wrong with that particular boat. They did a nice job with the photos. - just curiosity

The 40' range is a tough one to narrow down. the difference in a say a 43 Viking and a 43 hatteras - like the one linked - versus a 35' Scoponich - just can not compare. 2 completely different boats. the 8' difference might as well be 100 - the 43's are TWICE the boat.

I like the Abermarle over the Cabo if you are making long runs to the grounds. If you have the flexibilty to go over the 40' to 42' and 43' then you need to give Henriques, Hateras and Viking a long, hard look

Fubar512
05-03-2009, 08:52 PM
I am curious as to what is wrong with that particular boat. They did a nice job with the photos. - just curiosity


Gus looked her over. PM him for the details :roll

Fubar512
05-03-2009, 08:58 PM
I delivered one of the very first Viking 43 Express boats, right out of the yard.....had an interesting trip down to Lauderdale. Boat was fine, nicely laid out, handled OK (although she was a bit wet for a 43). Had a little issue filling her up...wound up wearing that cologne..Au 'd Diesel :Q

Dunk
05-03-2009, 09:15 PM
39 Topaz Royale...

joemariani
05-04-2009, 02:53 PM
I agree with dunk... again, i am extremely biased towards that boat as an owner...
I also have always liked the henriques 38 el bravo and henriques 42 express.

Venture34
05-05-2009, 08:08 AM
Worked on a Gamefisherman back in the day. Super over rated.Would rather fish a bayliner . Henriques makes a really nice boat. I am not into the custom boats. I like spencer but there express is not there strong point.


Taking price out of the equation, you are way off the mark. We are now comparing Albemarle's to the single most technologically innovative mid 40s express EVER MADE in the Spencer? Economy, fishability, functionality, livability (2nd stateroom) and great looks? I am looking in that space and NOTHING comes close. The only reason I don't own one is price.

"Would rather fish a bayliner" - be careful what you wish for.

Paul Spencer is so far ahead of the rest these days its stupid. Rum Bum you are right on target. Money no object builder and size sportfish boat Paul Spencer is my choice. Good luck with your build!

Albemarle? Topaz by EH? puhhhleeeze. You said nothing about price so these shouldnt even be in the conversation.

Necessary Evil
05-05-2009, 09:27 AM
I've got a 38' Tiara Open that I just love! Not your all out fishing machine, but a nice balance between fishing and family cruising. Whatever you choose, these new common rail diesels are the cat's meow. No smoke! I've got the Cummins and would'nt trade them for anything :)

PowerYacht
05-05-2009, 09:35 AM
I think for a production boat I would say Cabo is a step ahead
following it is Albermarle
and we wait to see the Viking 42 with IPS and see what this is about, it surely did give a bonus offering a 3 cabin interior

dubb
05-05-2009, 11:40 AM
The 43 spencer is a good looking boat. The problem is the helm deck layout. It is a flybridge deck from his big convertables. It works great on a big but not on the express. He may have changed it by now I don't know. I've only looked at the one that was in our marina last year. If pod drives are your thing you can get the cabo 40 with zeus.

The cabo has a better layout than most exp. boats. Make sure you have a real windshield on an exp. they all take on spray. Buy rain-x! You will also save about 300,000 on the cabo vs. spencer.

That being said I saw were bubbie crown would build a brand new 40 footer in any configuration ready to fish for $425,000.

My favorite right now is the ocean 37 billfish. It has the best of both the flybridge and express.

Venture34
05-05-2009, 12:36 PM
If pod drives are your thing? You won't be able to buy a non pod drive inboard boat in 5 years. Take that to the bank.

PowerYacht
05-05-2009, 01:19 PM
If pod drives are your thing? You won't be able to buy a non pod drive inboard boat in 5 years. Take that to the bank.

dont agree with this statement....
there is problems with IPS pods and flybridges,
vee shape has to be flatter because of the outright force they exert in turns and really it becomes dangerous
Zeus is far better in this because it sits like in tunnel pockets and the pod is horizontal to the water...
for flybridges Volvo suggest not more then 15 degrees aft and even this is risky...

RumBumBermuda
05-05-2009, 01:38 PM
Paul Spencer is so far ahead of the rest these days its stupid. Rum Bum you are right on target. Money no object builder and size sportfish boat Paul Spencer is my choice. Good luck with your build!

Albemarle? Topaz by EH? puhhhleeeze. You said nothing about price so these shouldnt even be in the conversation.

Thanks man. I'm lookin forward to it! :thumbsup:

dubb
05-06-2009, 06:40 AM
venture34,

I don't think traditional straight shafts are going to be discontinued. First fisherman are a traditional bunch they like things they can understand and fix. second getting one of these pods replaced or dianosed could be a nightmare for a boat outside of the continental usa. I know of a boat visiting mexico last year that was tied to the dock for a month waiting on parts for a c32 which is a pretty common engine. Now imagine you knocked off a pod. You would wait forever trying to get a pod much less find someone who could install and calibrate it. If I brake a shaft I know how to replace that myself.

hassm
05-06-2009, 08:53 AM
The new Contender 38 is absolutely awesome. JMHO

PETRAFIED
05-06-2009, 10:37 AM
I would buy the F&S 45 walkaround "True Grit" if money was no object. Not that Spencers are better or worse but this boat is way bling!:o

35donzi
05-06-2009, 10:44 AM
If you are going to be doing a lot of fishing, there is no better boat in that range than a 42 Henriques. The cockpit is bigger than 50+ footers, It is a beast in seas, solid fiberglass (heavy as hell), 30kt cruise. The price is much more reasonable than the other boats mentioned and resale is good.

laffler
05-06-2009, 02:20 PM
Check out the new Viking 42 with IPS drives. going to be the schiznick

54bullwinkle
05-06-2009, 04:14 PM
Customs are a different than prod boats and have advantages and disadvantages over production boats. Hard to bring todays custom express boats into this. Fished a Cabo, Topaz 39 and Albermarle , All are great boats. Topaz pounds a little in a quartering sea, Cabo and Alb dont. All great downsea rides. Go to dealerships and crawl through them all. There are plenty for sale. All great boats

wayne
05-06-2009, 04:54 PM
If pod drives are your thing? You won't be able to buy a non pod drive inboard boat in 5 years. Take that to the bank.Yea right, just like the V-Drive :nono:

carolina rig
05-06-2009, 05:01 PM
44 garlington

rotund80
05-06-2009, 05:41 PM
Look at the new Tiara 39 open. 15' beam plenty of deadrise. Tiara is building some hard core fish boats now 39 Convertible 48 Convertible and of coarse the 39 open. I know alot of the fishing crowd does not think of Tiara, but pull these up on their web site and check them out.

pcolom1
06-28-2009, 02:39 PM
Anyone know the real world fuel burn numbers of a 43' hatteras express with the original engines

Conundrum
06-29-2009, 10:01 AM
The 2001 43 Viking I have for sale is the best - of course!!

amsimonsjs
06-29-2009, 10:27 AM
41 Luhrs.... :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin::trout: :trout: :trout:

Cmann
06-29-2009, 01:27 PM
Interesting thread for the rich and shameless......Now narrow down the search in the $100k to $150k (obviously used) boat. what u say than?
((year and make))

ben
08-01-2010, 08:20 AM
according to me, the 40 Topaz is the most beautiful rocket-battlewagn, with 35kn cruise and 75° bow deadrise. If you can pls compare the ride of this boat with another beamy one like a Cabo, and then let's see...

nighttrain13
08-01-2010, 08:59 AM
Spencer 43 with ips.



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