Miami Boat Show 2009 - INVINCIBLE 2009

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Hull #1 in Naples Bay:

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It looks like the V 350s in the pic of the boat out of the water is running 300 lower units.

Can someone point out to me where the fit and finish is inferior to other manufacturers? I can't wait 'til I'm ready to upgrade to the 36.

I dont like the white hoses in the bildge, they get narley looking pretty quickly.

Question for those of you at the show or in the know:
The navy blue 36' Invincible at the convention center leaning post had magnetic "latches" to keep the leaning post seat snug. They were four small shiny silver tabs (one pair one each end of the seat) about the size of a quarter that when the seat was down, held it down. Does anyone wnow who the manufacturer of these are?

TwentyFourSeven - 2/18/2009 7:53 PM

I dont like the white hoses in the bildge, they get narley looking pretty quickly.

Name these four manufactures:

Were does the water go when it drops down in to the rims of the hatches up in the bow area. The gutters dont appear to continue down to the back?

Ludicrous - 2/18/2009 5:26 PM

TwentyFourSeven - 2/18/2009 7:53 PM

I dont like the white hoses in the bildge, they get narley looking pretty quickly.

Name these four manufactures:





First one is YF, I think the last one is Contender.

Ludicrous - 2/18/2009 5:26 PM

TwentyFourSeven - 2/18/2009 7:53 PM

I dont like the white hoses in the bildge, they get narley looking pretty quickly.

Name these four manufactures:




YF, SV, Contender, Sea hunter

Yellowfin, Sea Vee, Contender, SeaHunter in that order.

Having a sexy bilge doesn't make you go fast or catch more fish. Although it does seem to help sell the boat. And selling the boat first might be a higher priority in today's market. Not all people want to spend the extra "Bahama Boat Works" bling on their bilge compartments though. I know for a fact Alex is very sensitive about his bilge compartments....he's working on it. But add a couple extra bucks to your price tag. For a three year old boat manufacture they are heading in the right direction.

And usually at 5-10 mph faster than the competition.


;)

yeah yf, cv, contender sea hunter. 2 with black and 2 with white.

the only thing that I see in the pics that looks kinda like a pain is where the batterys are locating behind that hatch. from the pic it looks like they would be hard to change, but maybe it is just the angle of the photo

Check out pic 50! Thats some nice rigging!! :banghead:

Shin-Dig - 2/19/2009 4:17 PM

Question for those of you at the show or in the know:
The navy blue 36' Invincible at the convention center leaning post had magnetic "latches" to keep the leaning post seat snug. There are four small shiny silver tabs as seen in the below picture (one pair on each end of the seat) about the size of a quarter that when the seat was down, held it down. Does anyone know who the manufacturer of these are?



who makes these?
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These are really nice boats....but the "little" things I wonder about. The speakers mounted near the bottom of the transom; how long are they going to last if you actually fish that boat which I assume means you are going to use the washdown (fresh or raw) to clean out the cockpit???

The light blue 33 was sweet and tough to beat. Their new hardtop is pretty slick. The grey powder coat on the white 36 was a neat touch.

Reel A Lure - 2/18/2009 9:35 PM

These are really nice boats....but the "little" things I wonder about. The speakers mounted near the bottom of the transom; how long are they going to last if you actually fish that boat which I assume means you are going to use the washdown (fresh or raw) to clean out the cockpit???

I have them there too. 400 hours later they're good as new. I like the fact that Invincible uses a sea chest for the pumps. Less holes in the boat means less possible entry points. Most custom sportfishes do it like this also.

Also, I like that the wiring in the console is hidden. I usually stuff my console with bags when traveling, so I don't worry about something possibly grabbing and pulling a wire. That new t-top is nice!

lcosta01 - 2/18/2009 4:23 PM

Can someone point out to me where the fit and finish is inferior to other manufacturers? I can't wait 'til I'm ready to upgrade to the 36.

Here we go again with nothing but subjective opinions...but the question has been answered already with SV, YF, etc. The first pic of a bilge is my new 32 YF. All said, I went out in the 36 Inv and was very impressed...still not going to make these comments that one particular brand is superior over the other; really splitting hairs.

Hope to see you on the water this year... :grin:

How fast was the 36 with 350s?

Anthem - 2/18/2009 10:40 PM

lcosta01 - 2/18/2009 4:23 PM

Can someone point out to me where the fit and finish is inferior to other manufacturers? I can't wait 'til I'm ready to upgrade to the 36.

Here we go again with nothing but subjective opinions...but the question has been answered already with SV, YF, etc. The first pic of a bilge is my new 32 YF. All said, I went out in the 36 Inv and was very impressed...still not going to make these comments that one particular brand is superior over the other; really splitting hairs.

Hope to see you on the water this year... :grin:

Most definately. Congrats on your new boat. I originally wanted twin 350 Yamahas so I'm interested to see how the 32 YF behaves with them. I might be switching to 350Vs at the end of year.

lcosta01 - 2/18/2009 8:43 PM

Anthem - 2/18/2009 10:40 PM

lcosta01 - 2/18/2009 4:23 PM

Can someone point out to me where the fit and finish is inferior to other manufacturers? I can't wait 'til I'm ready to upgrade to the 36.

Here we go again with nothing but subjective opinions...but the question has been answered already with SV, YF, etc. The first pic of a bilge is my new 32 YF. All said, I went out in the 36 Inv and was very impressed...still not going to make these comments that one particular brand is superior over the other; really splitting hairs.

Hope to see you on the water this year... :grin:

Most definately. Congrats on your new boat. I originally wanted twin 350 Yamahas so I'm interested to see how the 32 YF behaves with them. I might be switching to 350Vs at the end of year.

Try to get you some #'s, I went with the 350Vs myself...I did run a 32 YF w/ twin 350 Yams and we hit 68 w/ 3 guys and 150 gallons of fuel. Let you know what the 350 Vs do.

I think its pretty abvious that these two boats YF and Invincible, are arguably the two best CC on the market right now. Saying one is better than the other is pretty stupid. There are things about both boats that I find appealing, and the fact that these two companies are competing for market share is good for all of us because they wil continue to improve because of it. When it comes time for me to go bigger it will probably come down to price, and available power.

Anthem - 2/19/2009 4:49 AM

lcosta01 - 2/18/2009 8:43 PM

Anthem - 2/18/2009 10:40 PM

lcosta01 - 2/18/2009 4:23 PM

Can someone point out to me where the fit and finish is inferior to other manufacturers? I can't wait 'til I'm ready to upgrade to the 36.

Here we go again with nothing but subjective opinions...but the question has been answered already with SV, YF, etc. The first pic of a bilge is my new 32 YF. All said, I went out in the 36 Inv and was very impressed...still not going to make these comments that one particular brand is superior over the other; really splitting hairs.

Hope to see you on the water this year... :grin:

Most definately. Congrats on your new boat. I originally wanted twin 350 Yamahas so I'm interested to see how the 32 YF behaves with them. I might be switching to 350Vs at the end of year.

Try to get you some #'s, I went with the 350Vs myself...I did run a 32 YF w/ twin 350 Yams and we hit 68 w/ 3 guys and 150 gallons of fuel. Let you know what the 350 Vs do.

My bad... for some reason I thought you went with the 350Yam. I think the 350Vs will have better mpg than the YAMs.

I'm with Lcosta on this one.From my observations at the boat show, Invincibles fit and finish is easily on par if not slightly better than Yellowfins.Anyone who thinks otherwise has been drinking too much kool-aid.

fishcop - 2/19/2009 3:26 AM

I think its pretty abvious that these two boats YF and Invincible, are arguably the two best CC on the market right now. Saying one is better than the other is pretty stupid. There are things about both boats that I find appealing, and the fact that these two companies are competing for market share is good for all of us because they wil continue to improve because of it. When it comes time for me to go bigger it will probably come down to price, and available power.

it sounds like we are all finally realizing that these two are equal. And Wylie is making his stuff better every year, the new 36 guys is sick. If you didnt see it at the show, you need to find an 09 36 and check out the bow, WOW. We all know the performance on both boats, but they both have similar fishing platforms now=DEAD FISH IN BOX :thumbsup:

Get Lit - 2/19/2009 9:23 AM

I'm with Lcosta on this one.From my observations at the boat show, Invincibles fit and finish is easily on par if not slightly better than Yellowfins.Anyone who thinks otherwise has been drinking too much kool-aid.

You have obviously been drinking to much of it yourself. There is a reason why YF has the most views, pictures and coments. Dont fool yourself.

TwentyFourSeven - 2/19/2009 11:45 AM

Get Lit - 2/19/2009 9:23 AM

I'm with Lcosta on this one.From my observations at the boat show, Invincibles fit and finish is easily on par if not slightly better than Yellowfins.Anyone who thinks otherwise has been drinking too much kool-aid.

You have obviously been drinking to much of it yourself. There is a reason why YF has the most views, pictures and coments. Dont fool yourself.





Alot of it has to due with the number of clients in that particular boat. Contender has more hits then YF just for that reason. More boats in the market due to more years building boats. Law of large numbers.

Get Lit - 2/19/2009 9:23 AM

I'm with Lcosta on this one.From my observations at the boat show, Invincibles fit and finish is easily on par if not slightly better than Yellowfins.Anyone who thinks otherwise has been drinking too much kool-aid.Bullsheet!!!!!!!

BSpot - 2/19/2009 1:29 PM

TwentyFourSeven - 2/19/2009 11:45 AM

Get Lit - 2/19/2009 9:23 AM

I'm with Lcosta on this one.From my observations at the boat show, Invincibles fit and finish is easily on par if not slightly better than Yellowfins.Anyone who thinks otherwise has been drinking too much kool-aid.

You have obviously been drinking to much of it yourself. There is a reason why YF has the most views, pictures and coments. Dont fool yourself.





Alot of it has to due with the number of clients in that particular boat. Contender has more hits then YF just for that reason. More boats in the market due to more years building boats. Law of large numbers.


Wait a second you just said that INV sold more boats at eh show than yellowfin, now your already making excuses, so what is it Bspot, did they sell more boats or was I right only three boats?

Believe me nothing wrong with selling three boats, and I totally love invincibles, but when ever I see someone talking $hit, especially when there screen name is Brown spot I have to call you out.

What's the USCG2NM thing on the T-Top? These are some very pretty boats. Also can figure out, are you joking or just gay "I don't like the white bilge hoses". Get real.

PotomacSouth - 2/19/2009 2:37 PM

What's the USCG2NM thing on the T-Top? These are some very pretty boats. Also can figure out, are you joking or just gay "I don't like the white bilge hoses". Get real.





:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I'am still undecided on which one of the "big three" CCs I will be purchasing.I have no dog in this fight or horse in this race.I was simply stating my unbiased opinion regarding Invincibles fit and finish compared to yellowfins.Please enlighten me and show me proof where I'am wrong 24-7......

Get Lit - 2/19/2009 5:51 PM

I'am still undecided on which one of the "big three" CCs I will be purchasing.I have no dog in this fight or horse in this race.I was simply stating my unbiased opinion regarding Invincibles fit and finish compared to yellowfins.Please enlighten me and show me proof where I'am wrong 24-7......

the white bilge hoses :roll

This argument is ridiculous. It's like asking if a Bentley is better than a Rolls Royce. The differences in these boats is purely subjective.

For those saying that the fit and fisish is inferior to other boats, mention where you see the difference.

I'll mention one. Why does YF put the bar on the bottom of the console with the screws? Even though I'm sure it's stainless, today's stainless isn't the stainless steel of yesteryear's. Personally, I like the wiring to be hidden, not exposed.

What bar on the YF are you refering to?

I have no idea what bar he is talking about either.

TwentyFourSeven - 2/19/2009 8:58 PM

I have no idea what bar he is talking about either.

Look at the YF thread and look at the 29. There's a picture of a small box on the transom that houses some type of pump. To the left of that, there is a "bar" with screws on it that wraps around the transom cockpit, just under the livewell. It also borders the bottom of the console.

Now can you see it?

That is the trim piece that hides the seam where the cap meets the hull liner, and on the console it hides where the console "shoe boxes " together. Now I see the piece your talking about.

btmdgr - 2/19/2009 9:45 AM

it sounds like we are all finally realizing that these two are equal. And Wylie is making his stuff better every year, the new 36 guys is sick. If you didnt see it at the show, you need to find an 09 36 and check out the bow, WOW. We all know the performance on both boats, but they both have similar fishing platforms now=DEAD FISH IN BOX :thumbsup:


Who is exactly catching up with who??....you make it sound, in a nice way, that YF's are finally on par with invincibles with 09 models :roll ...thats kinda of funny :rofl:

JasonPaul - 2/19/2009 7:29 PM

btmdgr - 2/19/2009 9:45 AM

it sounds like we are all finally realizing that these two are equal. And Wylie is making his stuff better every year, the new 36 guys is sick. If you didnt see it at the show, you need to find an 09 36 and check out the bow, WOW. We all know the performance on both boats, but they both have similar fishing platforms now=DEAD FISH IN BOX :thumbsup:


Who is exactly catching up with who??....you make it sound, in a nice way, that YF's are finally on par with invincibles with 09 models :roll ...thats kinda of funny :rofl:


You said/typed it.

catch up - 2/19/2009 10:16 PM

That is the trim piece that hides the seam where the cap meets the hull liner, and on the console it hides where the console "shoe boxes " together. Now I see the piece your talking about.

Got it. Is it just me, or is that technique not aesthetically pleasing?

I like how Inv and others have a "clean" and "smooth" surface. Seahunter uses the same "cap".

I guess you didn't see the sarcasm!!


BSpot - 2/19/2009 7:44 PM

JasonPaul - 2/19/2009 7:29 PM

btmdgr - 2/19/2009 9:45 AM

it sounds like we are all finally realizing that these two are equal. And Wylie is making his stuff better every year, the new 36 guys is sick. If you didnt see it at the show, you need to find an 09 36 and check out the bow, WOW. We all know the performance on both boats, but they both have similar fishing platforms now=DEAD FISH IN BOX :thumbsup:


Who is exactly catching up with who??....you make it sound, in a nice way, that YF's are finally on par with invincibles with 09 models :roll ...thats kinda of funny :rofl:


You said/typed it.

JasonPaul - 2/19/2009 7:29 PM

btmdgr - 2/19/2009 9:45 AM

it sounds like we are all finally realizing that these two are equal. And Wylie is making his stuff better every year, the new 36 guys is sick. If you didnt see it at the show, you need to find an 09 36 and check out the bow, WOW. We all know the performance on both boats, but they both have similar fishing platforms now=DEAD FISH IN BOX :thumbsup:


Who is exactly catching up with who??....you make it sound, in a nice way, that YF's are finally on par with invincibles with 09 models :roll ...thats kinda of funny :rofl:

well lets take a look. First, not noticable, is the 330 gallon aluminum tank in the 09s. This new tank changes the center of gravity in preperation for the 350s and 400s and beyond. Looks at brett1s boat, it sits different in the 09 than his 08. Next, Wylie has added two insulated fish boxes in the floor behind the tackle station and where do we find this layout? Invincible, but to give credit where its due they stole that from SeeVee. Wylie has raised the deck on the new 36, now the bow is fishable. In fact it looks alot like some other boats, no need to mention, lol. On par with the invincibles? NO, i have to say the improvments to the already awesome Yf 36 makes his fishing platform and stepped hull ahead of invincible. What I was getting at was that people have been trying to explain why one is better than the other, when they are very similar, now more than last year, and this brand loyalty is a waste of time. BOTH BOATS ARE AWEOME. Find me a post where i say otherwise. nice work again kevin and wylie :thumbsup:

lcosta01 - 2/19/2009 7:56 PM

catch up - 2/19/2009 10:16 PM

That is the trim piece that hides the seam where the cap meets the hull liner, and on the console it hides where the console "shoe boxes " together. Now I see the piece your talking about.

Got it. Is it just me, or is that technique not aesthetically pleasing?

I like how Inv and others have a "clean" and "smooth" surface. Seahunter uses the same "cap".

The Invincible definitely has fewer exposed fastners. They use the coaming bolster to cover the edge of the cap and where it meets the liner across the transom. I'm sure Yellowfin could put the bolster across the transom if asked. Both Manufacturers are the top of the class for tournament style boats. That light blue Invincible at the Convention Center was gorgeous and that 36 YF was nice as well.

How bout this..

Why don't we all grow up and agree, like we learned in third grade, that these boats are both very good boats, each has something that can be done differently. No boat is perfect, but these two are the closest you'll find to perfect. Then you'll find Pretender and all the rest way behind them.

Prime

Then you'll find Pretender and all the rest way behind them.[/QUOTE]


That cut all the way to the bone!




'07 33T trip F250

bspot, you know your 33t is sick, dont worry about fastest what is most fishable is best

SubPrime - 2/20/2009 3:19 PM

How bout this..

Why don't we all grow up and agree, like we learned in third grade, that these boats are both very good boats, each has something that can be done differently. No boat is perfect, but these two are the closest you'll find to perfect. .

I agree, they are both nice.

Every boat has its pros and cons... Find the one that fits you the best, and then thats the best boat FOR YOU !!!!
There making a sweet ride.............(Invincible)
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

btmdgr - 2/21/2009 5:40 PM

bspot, you know your 33t is sick, dont worry about fastest what is most fishable is best

I would like to see the 33T and the 36 YF in the rough stuff.

The Yellowfin and Invincible look great in the 2 ft chop. What about the heavier seas?

No doubt both YF and Invincibles are fine vessels but compared to the Contender, who has more "nuts" in the water. By that I mean the majority of the both the YF and Invincible hulls are above the water. The majority of a Contender's hull seems to be below the waterline.

Take that for what it is.

I will end this argument, I think Bahama beats them both. :)

for you info this is the 36 Inv tho......ran 100+ miles sunday home in a head sea gulf chop that built from 2-3 to 3-4 as a front moved in and changed the wind from northeast to northwest 20s at most, but all in all a confused sea we ran at 37-39 knots with 4 guys, less than 200 gallons and small amount of ice. The boat stayed in the water for the most part (thanks 24/7 for the trim tricks :thumbsup: ) and when she did get up it she was launching over 4 footers. The whole trip took less thank 2.5 hours and 2 guys slept in bean bags the whole ride.
The YF performance in these seas would be almost identical if not improved in the 4s. Wylies bow is more pronounced and munches the chop a little better, but the difference would be almost not noticable. (FYI this is only having ridin the 36YFs before 09, they maybe even better riding now with the changes)
Compareing the 33 INV and 36YF isnt really fair, more like the 33 Inv and Yf 32 or 34. Now the Yf 32 is NASTY, so is the 33INV. Drive them both and decide what layout fits your fishing better.
Driving either of these boats is a very fun time, be careful dont bring your checkbook :grin:

btmdgr - 2/23/2009 12:13 PM

for you info this is the 36 Inv tho......ran 100+ miles sunday home in a head sea gulf chop that built from 2-3 to 3-4 as a front moved in and changed the wind from northeast to northwest 20s at most, but all in all a confused sea we ran at 37-39 knots with 4 guys, less than 200 gallons and small amount of ice. The boat stayed in the water for the most part (thanks 24/7 for the trim tricks :thumbsup: ) and when she did get up it she was launching over 4 footers. The whole trip took less thank 2.5 hours and 2 guys slept in bean bags the whole ride.
The YF performance in these seas would be almost identical if not improved in the 4s. Wylies bow is more pronounced and munches the chop a little better, but the difference would be almost not noticable. (FYI this is only having ridin the 36YFs before 09, they maybe even better riding now with the changes)
Compareing the 33 INV and 36YF isnt really fair, more like the 33 Inv and Yf 32 or 34. Now the Yf 32 is NASTY, so is the 33INV. Drive them both and decide what layout fits your fishing better.
Driving either of these boats is a very fun time, be careful dont bring your checkbook :grin:

Great post. Did you fish this with my buddy Jose Lopez (Top Fin)? Heard you guys did pretty well, congrats! :thumbsup:

I have ridden in the 36YF several times, a 32YF twice, and I owned a 2003 31' Yellowfin (now the 29'). Last week I just took possession of my brand new 34' Yellowfin because my personal belief is that it has the range of the 36' (450 gallons), a similar ride to the 36' (have not been on the new one), and the fuel economy that duals provide while still being able to get into the mid 60 mph range with twin F350's. I thought it was stange Wylie did not take a 34 to the Miami show....but I can tell you that I may never buy another boat. This is my sixth center console boat (all different manufacturer except for the last two which are YF) and I am thrilled beyond words with the performance, fishability, trailerability, and overall product in my 2009 34' YF.

Seems like this argument can go on forever. I love both and I owna Contender 31! I have a question for the invincible owners because I find the discussion here enlightening when it comes to what to look for when comparing superior and inferior details on these top tier CC boats. To make this objective, I must say that I criticized the YF when I saw some pics of the 29 that had a blue stainless steel ball valves in the bilge that wereattached tobrass fittings (Anodization issue). Here on the Invincible, I see plastic white with red handle ball valves - In my experience, and I have owned many boats, but am no expert, that ball valve in plastic is just waiting to crack off after not even a year in the saltwater environment. I know because I owned an Angler that it happened to several times and I gave up and switched to brass valves. ;?

RocknReeln - 2/23/2009 1:13 PM



Seems like this argument can go on forever. I love both and I own*a Contender 31!* I have a question for the invincible owners because I find the discussion here enlightening when it comes to what to look for when comparing superior and inferior details on these top tier CC boats. To make this objective, I must say that I criticized the YF when I saw some pics of the 29 that had a blue stainless steel ball valves in the bilge that were*attached to*brass fittings (Anodization issue).* Here on the Invincible, I see plastic white with red handle ball valves - In my experience, and I have owned many boats, but am no expert, that ball valve in plastic is just waiting to crack off after not even a year in the saltwater environment. I know because I owned an Angler that it happened to several times and I gave up and switched to brass valves. ;?****

If I were buying either of these boats there would definitely be some small items that each would have to address before I pulled the trigger. Having said that the items could easily be addressed and I know neither manufacturer would have any reservations making the changes to make their customers happy. :thumbsup:

I can honestly say I havn't had any problems with the ball valves, and I took delivery of my 33 Inv. in the first week of October of 2007.

Listen, both boats are phenomenal. The YF is a beautiful boat, but the Invincible has many positives also. You can't go wrong with either one.

With the comment above laying the groundwork, the only place to go now (Since all details on these CC "custom" boats can be modified) is a discussion of a comparison of the standard features and the hulls of each. IMO - If you want afast fishing machine from a new company - GO Invincible. If you want aonly slightly slower fishing machine fromproven dependable company -GO YF. Below this, everything is only slightly slower and only slightly less dependable. Just my .02

explain to me exactly what ball valves and use pics if you can. thanks

we have had our 36 invincible for a year and have had no trouble with anything including the ball valves we fish everytime the weather allows

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The red and white PVC valve. I have broken several in much more pleasant environments. Brass valves are much more dependable. But as I stated and as was replied to me- this can be modified (Custom) at time of production or even afterwards at little or no extra expense or inconvenience. Read above.

btmdgr - 2/23/2009 12:13 PM

The boat stayed in the water for the most part (thanks 24/7 for the trim tricks :thumbsup: ) and when she did get up it she was launching over 4 footers. The whole trip took less thank 2.5 hours and 2 guys slept in bean bags the whole ride.


Mind PM'ing me the details. We run a 36YF and we are always open to learning how to better run a triple engine boat in seas.

rocknreel, I wasnt looking to bash, trying to be ahead of issues that may arrise in future. those valves are fine, if they break then easy to replace, in fact I dont expect those things to last forever in marine environment. That to me is a small thing that goes with the territory. But good to know that in time those will fail.

YELLOWFIN ALL THE WAY!!!! Although Invincible makes a nice boat, but I like the look, and finish of Yellowfin better!

David

[QUOTE=DJWILLIAMS;2196430]YELLOWFIN ALL THE WAY!!!! Although Invincible makes a nice boat, but I like the look, and finish of Yellowfin better!



Time to cut back on the YF kool-aid

I rode both the 36 Yellowfin and the 36 Inv at the Miami show this year (am suprisingly in three of the pictures on this post). I loved the ride and the fit and finish of the Inv, but they had electronic problems preventing us from knowing the top speed and they did not go in the ocean (which was pretty flat anyways). The YF 36 was a really amazing and wild ride. The bow rise seemed a bit extreme until the boat was on plane. Although the ride on the YF was wild and impressive, I was disappointed in the fit and finish. From what I remember, the wiring under the console was not great and was shocked to see a fuel line runing openly through the inner area below the console which left a distinct fuel smell in the cabin. Both Wyle and Alex were great and I have no doubt that they would make any buyer very happy. The biggest dissapointment for me was that the guy running the Invincable would not go to the ocean. Running back and forth in the bay or intercoastal did not give me a sense of what that boat could do in a choppy or rough ocean. Also from a Mercury standpoint, I was on two boats with the 350 SCIs that both were having problems. Interestingly, Invincable and Yellowfin both had the Verado 350 SCIs that had the issues.

I bet the Invincible was told not to run out to the ocean, either too fast for average joe to risk injuy in the ocean or the Mercury guys didnt want the boat to be gone so long each time. I know Saturday the Invincible was so busy they didnt tie lines between rides most of the time.
You want to know what the boat will do in seas? I will get you out in one anytime you want in SW FLA, SHE IS SICK. Read my post last page about our last trip to the fort. She handles the seas like you wont believe, the YF will run faster in 4-5+ but the Invincible runs hard, little bang, and flys in 3s

The guy that was running the Inv told me that Mercury told him not to go offshore as the boat was running too much, he did tell some other guys to come back late in the day and he'd take them offshore. The electronics problem was fixed by Furuno at the show and worked like a charm when I was on the boat. The max speed that we saw was 72 mph but it obviously had a lot more left in it. Remember, that 36 was representing Mercury at the show. Invincible also had a 33 there that would've gone offshore anytime someone wanted to.

Although I'm a YF guy, Invincible makes a good looking and good riding boat. If I were a new purchaser of any boat in today's economy, one thing I would focus on is the finacial stability of the company that stands behind it. I have no idea how either YF or Invincible are doing, but it would be significant to me as a boat buyer that one company is much newer than the other and that Wylie has a great reputation for treating his customers well. I really can't say anything (whether good or bad) about Invincible's current ownership.

I ran the boat offshore after hours for a few customers and hit 79mph before pulling back.

I can't wait to see them at the Lauderdale show on Thursday. When we ran the trip 350 verado boat we saw 77mph before we had to slow down do to a lack of running space. They are very impressive and extremely stable at high speeds. This company is going places and just might have our order very very soon.