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mad mike
02-15-2009, 03:40 PM
which would you choose for 60lb stand ups and why?


tprice
02-15-2009, 04:08 PM
I just ordered 2 of the Avet reels and from what I have read and been told they are a great reel for the money, guess I will find out

AlloyToy
02-15-2009, 05:53 PM
I have (2) Avet EXW Pro 30's and have not 1 complaint. Well built reels IMO :thumbsup:


BACKTOTHESEA
02-15-2009, 06:05 PM
Ditto on the Avets. I picked up 5 30 wides this summer and am impressed with how simple they are inside. easy to break apart, smooth etc..

pdog
02-15-2009, 06:19 PM
Been fishing Avet reels for 3 years now and I love them. In my opinion they are a great reel for the money. Ive only had one issue and Avet handled it at no cost to me on a reel that was 2 years old. They even paid shipping. Great company as far as im concerned.

keith91
02-15-2009, 06:29 PM
I think a lot will depend on how much line you want/need. The Avet will hold a lot more, especially the Pro 30W. Also, if you will only fish it as a 60lb class setup. If you want more flexibility to go to an 80lb or 100lb setup, then the Avet can do that with still good capacity.

I have Avet Pro 30Ws and absolutely love them. I would highly recommend them. I also think they are much easier to work on then the Penns. I hate those Penn drag wascher covers and I hate the fact that you cannot pull the right main side bearing in the Penns without removing the entire gear assembly. The Avet you can remove the right side bearing without removing everything.

The only complaint I had with the Avet was the clicker lever, but they redesigned that and now I don't have any complaints. Plus I love the choice of colors of the Avets. I like the silvers which hide boat rash better.

Good luck,
Kg

Southern Hunter
02-15-2009, 06:41 PM
The Penn 16VSX's are some pretty bad a$$ reels that we mostly use to deep drop with for Grouper and Amberjack and I must say I am very impressed with them. They also do double well as stand up rods and are much lighter than 30's and 50's and have an impressive amount of power! If you are looking to fish a reel with braid, then this is the reel you want!

pdog
02-15-2009, 07:52 PM
Take a look at the Avet Hx series too. I have two HXW and love em. Great light weight set ups.

qman
02-16-2009, 06:59 AM
We have 3 of the 16vsx and have had good luck with them. They are a bit tough to work on like Keith said, but was only my third big reel I took apart and was still able to put it back together. :-)

keith91
02-16-2009, 07:08 AM
I agree with Southern Hunter and also pdog. The new VSX series are very nice reels. The Hoo-X is also a very nice reel. The big advantage the 16VSX has over the HOO-X is that the handle is better. I wish they would offer a bigger handle on the Hoo-X. But I do prefer the handles on the Avet 30s over the Penn VSXs due to the offset.

I think the type of fishing you will be doing, your price range, as well as your reel preference (Penn vs. Shimano vs. Avet vs. etc.) will determine which one is better for you. If you plan on trolling these for decent size fish, then capacity is a big consideration. If you are going to be using them for jigging, then you can get away with less capacity.

From a cost standpoint, if it is not an issue, then get an Accurate. Between the Penn and Avet, you can't beat Avet. The VSX is $500 at 2 sponsors here. I know that you can get an Avet 30 for $30 less than that. And the Hoo-X is almost $100 less.

If you are using these standup and want the lightest reel, then that is another consideration that may be important especially if you will be trolling or jigging or something else. They are all good reels.....your preferences will determine which is better for you.

Kg

ubettcha13
02-16-2009, 09:52 AM
The narrow 30 Avet compares to the 16vsx in size Much better bearings in the Avet uch better handle in the Avet and the Narrow is a better retail price If your getting the prodeal I still feel that the Avet is better Because by the time you add a handle and class 5 bearings you still have a less durable finish on the penn reel You do not want to spend the money for that upgrade The other thing the penn has a chessy plastic cover over the drag washer n plate you need a special wrench to upgrade or risk buying a new one once you screw it up Look at the handles of both reels side by side and then tell me they are even close in quailty

qman
02-16-2009, 08:44 PM
Now that I think about it, the one thing that is annoying about the 16vsx is the stops for the lever drag. They are almost non functional on these reels. We have had people on the boat pickup the reel with a fish on and slide it all the way up to full drag... big mistake!

Anyone aware of an upgrade for them?

piscatore
02-17-2009, 01:45 PM
qman - 2/16/2009 7:44 PM

Now that I think about it, the one thing that is annoying about the 16vsx is the stops for the lever drag. They are almost non functional on these reels. We have had people on the boat pickup the reel with a fish on and slide it all the way up to full drag... big mistake!

Anyone aware of an upgrade for them?
you sure your talking about the right reel?
the stop works dam well on mine

qman
02-17-2009, 06:52 PM
The pin barely reaches the knob on the 3 we have. The pins aren't adjustable, maybe the knob is?

keith91
02-18-2009, 06:15 AM
That is another thing I like on the Avets.....they have a push button built into the drag lever that will push the strike button down for you. My dad's VSWs don't have that. Don't know if the VSXs do or not. Not a big deal, but a nice feature I find easier to use in the heat of battle.

Kg

Southern Hunter
02-18-2009, 07:34 PM
The stops on my 16's work great.

jawz
02-20-2009, 04:12 PM
16vsx...those avet reels are cheap junk...

Shady Business
02-24-2009, 07:32 PM
jawz - 2/20/2009 5:12 PM

16vsx...those avet reels are cheap junk...

;? Please explain.

albiewhore23
10-20-2009, 11:19 AM
i love all 8 of my vsx's dearly. i have plenty of smaller avets (MXLs, HXs) and after working on those and my buddies 30ex's every season i have bought my last avet. penn really nailed it with their VSX line im suprised more people dont use them

Tower Todd
10-20-2009, 04:55 PM
Love my 16VSX reels!

spokewrench
10-20-2009, 06:04 PM
I have one and just bought my wife one for her birthday , she taught me how to pull in 31 inch grouper by leaving the pole in the rod holder and shifting into low gear and pulled the grouper right in!:):) I love our avet 30 pro ex s, great reel, would recommend to anyone -

marcus220
10-20-2009, 07:14 PM
i own several avets{from the sx-exw 80} and am pleased with all.i have however,just bought a penn vsx 50 and am very pleased with the workmanship,though i have'nt used it yet,yes,it does have some plastic{shifter knob} in a non critical area.

REDWEISER
10-21-2009, 08:32 AM
i own several avets{from the sx-exw 80} and am pleased with all.i have however,just bought a penn vsx 50 and am very pleased with the workmanship,though i have'nt used it yet,yes,it does have some plastic{shifter knob} in a non critical area.

I would keep a close watch on the plastic {shifter knob}.
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I use Avet, Penn and Tiagra reels.
I've used Penn reels for 50 yrs with no problems but that seems to be changing.
I take meticulous care of my reels and still can't figure out how the plastic button cracked.

I just ordered another Avet from Jeff at Angler Systems.
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Bullshipper
10-22-2009, 06:28 PM
The penn is a much smaller reel.

The avet 30 can go all the way to 100 lb tackle and handle really big fish.

Oranges and grapefruit.

REDWEISER
10-22-2009, 07:35 PM
As you say; ... Oranges and grapefruit.

Penn 116VSX - 41 oz - max strike drag 28#.
Avet EX 30/2 - 47 oz - max strike drag 35#.

The question??; ... Is it worth going up 6 oz in wt and 7 more lbs of drag to eliminate cracking plastic?

keith91
10-23-2009, 08:26 AM
Another very big difference between these reels is the handle. The handle on the Avet is 10 times better than the knob on the VSX.
And as I mentioned in the beginning of this thread months ago, the Avet is much easier to work on than the Penn.

Kg

John_Madison CT
10-24-2009, 07:32 AM
If you're considering a 16VSX you should seriously look at the Shimano Tiagra 16. Built like a brick $$hit house and has a max drag over 30lbs..

ubettcha13
10-24-2009, 09:17 AM
Both the penn and the Tiagra do not have ABEC5 Bearings. put all three in freespool and spin them, Neither of the above will come close to the avet. What this signifies is the tolerances used. The drive train is not as large on either of the above as well. This gives the Avet more mechanical leverage through the drive train as well as makes it stronger.

REDWEISER
10-24-2009, 10:51 AM
If you're considering a 16VSX you should seriously look at the Shimano Tiagra 16. Built like a brick $$hit house and has a max drag over 30lbs..

Tiagra is a smooth reel but their thin gold anadizing dosen't hold up well.


As BS sez;.. Oranges and grapefruit.


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John_Madison CT
10-25-2009, 05:45 AM
I never quite understood why people focus on the value of 2 minutes of freespool being better than 1 minute. I never spin my spool with my finger while fishing.;?

I've fished with the Tiagra and Penn 16VSX and both have excellent freespool at specified drags. Perhaps if you drop a 1/4oz. sardine you might notice a difference, but for what I do, the stock freespool is great.

Avet, Shimano, Penn, all make excellent reels. IMO, price being no object, Accurate may top them all.

The BX2-600 has as much drag, 2 speeds and is build like a tank, while also being very light.

phin
10-26-2009, 10:00 AM
I have one and just bought my wife one for her birthday , she taught me how to pull in 31 inch grouper by leaving the pole in the rod holder and shifting into low gear and pulled the grouper right in!:):) I love our avet 30 pro ex s, great reel, would recommend to anyone -


Your wife has discovered a very productive technique for big grouper.

These fish in my photos below were caught with the prerunner to the EX30/2, the EX4/02 and also a TRX 30 using the technique you describe. You can't mess up the bite when you let the rod catch the fish.

As far as Avet vs Penn goes-
Avet all the way. I've had many of these Pro series Avet reels and never a problem. Honestly, the right side bearings in the smaller Avet JX and HX go out on me every 15-20 trips, but that's a $5 part I can live with after cranking them with max drag hundreds of times while bottom fishing. The Pro EX4/02, EX30/2, EX50/2 and TRX's are bulletproof relatively speaking- IMO. I have 10 of these reels, and I fish with another 10 or so that used to be mine but are owned now by friends. They are outstanding reels and extremely easy to take apart for cleaning and lubing.

I would recommend an EX4/02 over a Penn VSX even. Too many weaknesses in the VSX line and the quality is no where close. Plastic breaking on the Penns and drag lever creeping into free spool and clickers magically getting shut off isn't what Penn used to be known for building.

If you have issues with the 4/02's having automatic clickers, contact me for an easy 20 cent fix that makes the reel nearly as capable as the newer Pro EX30/2- meanwhile, you save 200 dollars by picking up a cheap 4/02 instead of a 30/2.



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mmppirate
10-26-2009, 11:13 AM
As you say; ... Oranges and grapefruit.

Penn 116VSX - 41 oz - max strike drag 28#.
Avet EX 30/2 - 47 oz - max strike drag 35#.

The question??; ... Is it worth going up 6 oz in wt and 7 more lbs of drag to eliminate cracking plastic?


Not sure if I understand this. These reels arent in the same class. The Avet will fish 100lb line the vsx 80lb at most. I have 2 30's that will get above 35 at strike and above 45 at full. The vsx won't even come close to that. Smaller handle and crank arm also. No one buys a 16vsx for 500lb thresher sharks or 250lb tuna. I think the 16vsx better compares to an HX or HX raptor, but the 16 is pretty heavy for jigging.

Anyone else notice that Penn didn't even acknowledge that spectra exisited or make reels for spectra until Avet started taking thier customers? They didn't come out with a topless 30n or 50n until Avet already estabished them as the standard for spectra.

albiewhore23
10-26-2009, 11:32 AM
Honestly, the right side bearings in the smaller Avet JX and HX go out on me every 15-20 trips,


I find this completely unacceptable. Im suprised nobody else does. I have replaced more bearings, drag washers, internal parts on Avets than i can count. Enough that i dont clean/lube my friends Avets anymore and i dread opening mine up every winter. The last time i met my buddy Rob for dinner he slipped one of his ex30s in my bag becuase it lost its freespool. He slipped it in there becuase if he asked me to fix it he knows i would have said no.

I never had a problem with my plastic shifter knob on my VSXs. And my drag lever stays where i keep it. Im suprised how many people will bash penn and praise avet. Avet makes a good reel for the price but it wont cure world hunger. Both are made in the USA.

BTW, the right comparison would be the Penn 30vsx vs the Avet ex30.

REDWEISER
10-26-2009, 02:35 PM
BTW, the right comparison would be the Penn 30vsx vs the Avet ex30.

A closer comparison ... (oranges/grapefruit).

Penn 30vsx weighs 60 oz - 35 lbs strike drag
Avet ex50 weighs 63 oz - 50 lbs. Strike drag
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Southern Hunter
10-27-2009, 04:42 PM
I have 2 16VSX's and 2 30VSX's I have the 30's on deep drop bent butt rods for grouper fishing with 130 spectra on them and I can tell you the bent butts are they way to go!! They make fighting the fish in the rod holders a ton easier!! Hook up next to the rig, and yank their a$$ out with the boat....no holding on to the rod....use all that fiberglass underneath you as leverage and just wear them out all day!!! I have had no problems with my VSX's what so ever they are some sweet reels!!!

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