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grunthunter
01-30-2003, 09:31 PM
Anyone out there know about Robalo these days?
Any comment on the 19 or 20 foot center console models? Well made? How much power? What did you pay? Any problems? Any opinions on what would be a better alternative about the same size, money, etc. That's enough questions from me. http://thehulltruth.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif


grunthunter
01-31-2003, 07:42 AM
I'll try once more. Anyone know about the small center console Robalos? Maybe the silence should tell me something about the boat (or my question). http://thehulltruth.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Hakster
02-02-2003, 03:44 PM
Had an 18 Robalo. Only boat I have ever had that I truly hated. Wet, WET, WET. Porpoised terribly. Hard riding.

Surely could not recommend one.

I used to think I was crazy 'til I met some normal people.


BLUESMAN
02-03-2003, 11:30 AM
I've got a 1994 21' and I love it. Solid (heavy) boat and great ride. 10 years old this year... find it better every year. I know you're looking at new CC not mine. SWS test loved 20' about a month ago.
I know they seldom say anything bad... I think it was $30,000 w/ 150 Yamaha? I think I just burned it for heat last week.

jbtaz
02-04-2003, 11:17 AM
These boats are the old Wahoo boats rebaged as Robalo. Chapparal's parent is producing them currently. They're not like the "old" Robalo's of the 70's and 80's. These were hulls bought from US Marine (Bayliner).

MrRobalo
02-04-2003, 06:16 PM
Hakster: Just curious which model of an 18 ft Robalo did you own. The R180 tri-hull, 1972 R181 built in 1980, the R1880 built in 1981, the R1800 builtin 1983-1994 or the R1860 (the two with sea-drives.) Hummmm just curious as to the one you may have owned that caused the porpoise. Was it a boat purchased new or used (abused or modified). Oh by the way, what does that have to do with the R190 and the R2020. I can personally say having an 1969 R190 on its 6th pair of motors gets better and better every ride. Everyone wants to jump to conclusion the way a boat handles. But how is it loaded. Fully loaded accept the kitchen sink, or evenly distributed for the appropriate ride. There is no perfect boat and yes I have gotten wet many times..but the seas were high, fished with the best of them and came home a little wet...when one has a boat that equals water and water makes us wet one way or another. But at least no matter what water comes into the boat always goes out and we always make it back home. If one wants a dry boat buy a deep vee 25 or have a boat that can do both inshore and offshore. That is what these smaller Robalos did and still do. If your around Stuart you will always see the Dottie Q cruising, on the flats or off shore, wet offshore but still makes the flats. Make a choice. http://thehulltruth.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Always Keep Her Rigged and Ready! Sammy Joe

78robalo
02-04-2003, 07:47 PM
A wet boat is a phrase that has a completely different meaning to each and every person on this board. But like the man says, if you don't want to get wet, stay away from water. The only way your going to find out is if you test drive the boat yourself and decide.

By the way, you never did mentioned year or power on what your looking at.

Any way, 99% of Robalo owners love them, 1% hate them. Not unusual and actualy quite typical of any brand name. Now I may be biased here, but I still think that they are some of the best boats ever made, period.

Oh, imho, of course. http://thehulltruth.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Good luck!!!

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/dce133fc/bc/__tn_78Robalo.jpg?bc.51M.ARiXouECG

grunthunter
02-05-2003, 01:03 PM
Thanks for the info. 78 Robalo, I am looking at a 2002 (technically new) R180 with a nice leaning post and a bimini top powered with a Yamaha 115 4 stroke. I am told that this boat was made by the new ownership. This is my first boat purchase and it looks like what I am looking for. I, of course, am planning on a water test. Hopefully this week.

gf
02-05-2003, 02:38 PM
Supposedly, the new Robalos have some improvements made to them, but the hull design is the same as the US Marine built boats.

The R190 is the same as the previous 1820. It won't be a speed demon with the F115, but it should be a nice package. I'm curious what they are asking for a price? I bet for the same or even less money you can get in to a Polar 1900 or a Sailfish 198 which are equally nice boats.

MrRobalo
02-05-2003, 07:31 PM
Excuse me gf...who says that the 1820 is the same as an R190 design. The R190 was designed and developed in 1969 when Jud Garvin owned the company, the R1820 was not developed until 1982, totally different hull, they are not two peas in the same pod. The 1820 was a developement with a hull design that was nothing like the R190. Two completely different boats/layouts. If one wants to compare facts one must know the facts. If there is proof of this please let me know but if you need the proof drop me a line, I have it. I usually do not jump on a forum and act as a know it all but it appauls me to read what some are clueless about, but once again, if proven me wrong an apology will be granted but being around them from 1969 to the early 1990's I think I know the difference between hull/boat designs, inside and out. Any questions regarding the early Robalo's I would be more than happy to help in any way I can. When US Marine took over Robalo, they were not the same thereafter. http://thehulltruth.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Always Keep Her Rigged and Ready! Sammy Joe

gf
02-06-2003, 05:25 AM
Sammy:

I am referring to the model year 2003 R190 and the ~1998-2002 1820. These hulls are the same. I believe that you are speaking about older Robalo hulls.

Same goes for the current R200 and the prior 2020.

pdrr
02-06-2003, 09:50 AM
Mdnzlevi,

I had a 2000 2020 model. With a Merc 200 EFI it flew. Lots of storage and built in features. Great inshore boat, marginal outside in anything over 2'.
Build quality was good - nothing broke in the 18 months I ran it. Sold it (quickly) to buy something with more size/amenities for the kids.

I think I paid around 27-28 with T-top, 200EFI, "comfort package", Leaning post, etc.

Boats seemed a lot more expensive at this years NYC boat show.

grunthunter
02-07-2003, 10:51 AM
gf,
thanks for the info. I got to take the boat out and like it. Your right, not that fast but fast enough. I really like the Yamaha 115 four stroke (no noise, no smoke). The boat is called a R180 built 2002 (its new however), the engine is technically 2003. I think Robalo will make 2 boats this year with same hull (18'7" length, 8 foot beam) with slightly different layouts called R180 and R190. In 2004, I have been told that they will phase out the R180 and keep the R190. I'm getting it without a trailer (don't need it) but with a nice bimini top, excellent leaning post, swim platform, Raytheon fish finder and VHF, JVC stereo (no GPS, I will get a handheld Garmin) for 21K total (tax, deleivery, etc. included). From the research I've done, thats not too bad. This is my first boat purchase, seems like a good choice for me (wife, 2 kids) to get out there and have some fun.

grunthunter
02-07-2003, 01:41 PM
gf,
thanks for the info. I got to take the boat out and like it. Your right, not that fast but fast enough. I really like the Yamaha 115 four stroke (no noise, no smoke). The boat is called a R180 built 2002 (its new however), the engine is technically 2003. I think Robalo will make 2 boats this year with same hull (18'7" length, 8 foot beam) with slightly different layouts called R180 and R190. In 2004, I have been told that they will phase out the R180 and keep the R190. I'm getting it without a trailer (don't need it) but with a nice bimini top, excellent leaning post, swim platform, Raytheon fish finder and VHF, JVC stereo (no GPS, I will get a handheld Garmin) for 21K total (tax, deleivery, etc. included). From the research I've done, thats not too bad. This is my first boat purchase, seems like a good choice for me (wife, 2 kids) to get out there and have some fun.

gf
02-07-2003, 09:05 PM
Glad to help. I almost bought an 1820 with a carb 150 a couple of years ago. Decent inshore boat.

$21K without a trailer sounds a little steep. Is it too late to try and talk the dealer down a bit? Or maybe have him include some extras?

Dry Rot
02-08-2003, 06:29 AM
I have a 2001 Robalo 2020 with a Tee top. As I recall, I paid around 30K for it with a custom removable top, comfort package, etc. It is a great boat, although I don't have much time on it. Like one of the other posters, I agree that outside, pick 3' or less, but who wants to get beat up anyway? With the EFI 200, it will fly. It will easily do 55. In my area, SW Florida it is considered a tank (indestructible). By the way, I have the big boat bug and wil probably be parting with it interesetd?

chrisb
06-03-2004, 02:06 PM
I just sold my 2003 R190. I moved up to a Regulator 21FS. The Robalo was an awesome boat.... simply a tank. Well constructed, dry ride and heavy which made it a solid boat in 2 to 4 ft seas. I paid $28K with a loadrite trailer and Yamaha 150 2 stroke. It topped out at 42MPH fully loaded. I sold the boat in 2 weeks for 2K less than I paid.... not bad. They are well made boats. Dealers are scare though. I live in CT and bought mine in NJ. Hope that helps! :)

fishfetchr
06-03-2004, 05:29 PM
Hello Mr Robalo- I was wondering if anyone out there knows about the under the deck design of the 1979 Robalo 20 Center Console: In particular the "self bail" design and how it works. There is not really any access the the belly of this boat.
I see the access hatch that the fuel tank is in- Does this hatch have drainage at all? There is a small circular hatch ( about 5 inches across) above the tank, and it looks like there's some water in it- is this normal? Do the front boxes ( these appear to have 3 holes for plugs) drain straight through and wind up in the back well area? Also- What's up with the fish box in the rear deck- can't drain it as the plug goes through the hull- can this be removed while underway? I know it can't be removed while standing still.
The boats waterline is always where it should be it seems, never a problem of needing to be "pumped out".
I would appreciate any info on this design or maybe a link to a site that has some specs etc. as this boat is new to me.
Thanks In Advance!
Mario

gf
06-03-2004, 10:38 PM
I wonder if chrisb noticed*that he replied to a message thread from February 2003.

Dry Rot
06-04-2004, 07:33 AM
Just to show how things change in a year+, here is my current boat already with 150 hours on it. I did satisfy my big boat bug.
Dry

jopep
06-04-2004, 12:15 PM
I own a 2003 R190 C/C w/ 150 yamaha 2-stroke. I absolutely love the boat. I have had it out in some very bad weather and have no complaints about the way it handled. The craftsmanship is excellent . I would not hesitate in recommending it.......

salty devil
06-04-2004, 12:29 PM
The Wahoo hull was an excellent hull that Brunswick bought and those hulls were the 2420, the 2440, the 2620 and the 2640. It all depends on what year you are talking about. The new boats are improved from the great hulls of the past and are an even better boat than they were before. The hydro lift hull came from Wahoo.

salty devil
06-04-2004, 12:32 PM
The Wahoo hull was an excellent hull. Brunswick bought the company and those hulls were the 2420, the 2440, the 2620 and the 2640. It all depends on what year you are talking about. The new boats are improved from the great hulls of the past and are an even better boat now than they were before. The hydro lift hull also originated from Wahoo.

salty devil
06-04-2004, 12:35 PM
The 2003 and 2004 is a better hull.

salty devil
06-05-2004, 12:53 PM
Bayliner has and has nothing to do with Robalo any more than Sea Ray or Boston Whaler has or had to do with Robalo.
Why those in the industry want to make up lies and use deception to move the crap they sell is beyond me, and why those in the public use this forum as a get even tool to post lies for unknown reasons is also beyond me. Help me to understand why you would post such a lie.

grunthunter
06-05-2004, 04:54 PM
Now that I've had the Robalo a little more than a year, I can report that it is an excellent boat. Seems well built, nice ride, very happy with the F115 for power. Will probably move to a bigger boat in the future, the boys are getting big.

chrisb
06-15-2004, 04:21 PM
Yes I did notice... is that ok with you? In case you don't know a lot of people refer to these threads for informational purposes. It is a repository for data and facts. Even if the original author doesn't care someone else may find the feedback valuable.

chrisb
06-15-2004, 05:14 PM
BTW you mentioned in your earlier response that a Polar 1900 is eqaul to a Robalo! In what universe do you live?



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