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tprice
04-06-2008, 11:40 AM
Well I know we all are diehard boaters here but I do know that there are some golfers and golf fans here as well.

I am sure Tiger is the odds on favorite to win but I am putting my money on Lefty. Nothing against TW but I would like to see Mickleson win or even Charles Howell III
but IMHO whether you are a golf fan or not the Masters is a big event and it always hits Augusta at one of if not the most beautiful time of the year here in the South

I actually had a chance to pick up some tickets for Wed practice round but due to my work load(Income Tax) and with an untimely death of one of best friends son last week I will have to wait till
next year. I am wanting to take my son to Augusta National for a surprise so I am planning on that for next year.

Who all here on THT will be tunning in this week and outside of the odds on favorite TW who are ya'll betting on


Just1more
04-06-2008, 12:24 PM
I doubt Mickelson will be in the running this year. If TW doesn't take it, I think it will be someone who is less likely to win. Kind of like when Mike Weir won several years ago.

emgag
04-07-2008, 11:21 AM
I'm not sure. but I believe that the winner will be the one who hits the most fairways and putts the best. The rough there is rough. And I also heard the greens are running a 13 now. Should be interesting.


oneill469
04-07-2008, 12:00 PM
I have been going to the Masters since 1963. I think anyone who discounts Tiger is nuts. He can really play that course. The weather will be a factor this year. A little rain changes the course dramatically. If it stays dry the greens will be fast as concrete. We will be on 15 just below the walkway. Every year we sit there and watch guys making a million bucks a year playing golf hit the 2nd shot into the water. We turn to one another and say "I can do that." Makes us feel better...lol

fishingfun
04-07-2008, 12:35 PM
emgag - 4/7/2008 11:21 AM

I'm not sure. but I believe that the winner will be the one who hits the most fairways and putts the best. The rough there is rough. And I also heard the greens are running a 13 now. Should be interesting.
Actually the rough for the masters is not that thick. If they had thick rough it would make that course much tougher than it is already.

CJS
04-07-2008, 01:34 PM
Until all of the women on all of the golf courses look like
the ones currently featured in "The Sandbar", I see
no reason to go there. :thumbsup:

nsh
04-07-2008, 01:46 PM
Tprice, I am with you on your call. I would love to see lefty take this year..You never know with this game!!!

emgag
04-07-2008, 01:57 PM
CJS - 4/7/2008 1:34 PM

Until all of the women on all of the golf courses look like
the ones currently featured in "The Sandbar", I see
no reason to go there. :thumbsup:

Maybe not all, but look here and you may change your mind:

: thesandtrap.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1855

redfish86
04-07-2008, 07:37 PM
Fred Couples.

jtburf
04-08-2008, 04:28 AM
With the greens being faster than a glass table top it will take a very high ball hiter.

As always Tiger is odds on or better, Freddie has the right tools and closed well this past weekend at the SHO, but it will take a very long driver to give TW a run.

Personally I would love to see a relative nobody sneak in but I'll keep my cash in my wallet until the first sat in May....

John

tomytuna
04-08-2008, 05:31 AM
When Tiger gets done golfing...he goes to his Yacht!!!!! to fish?

redfish86
04-08-2008, 06:08 AM
Freddie is sort of a sentimental favorite for me as I was there in '92 on Sunday when he won. I sure would like to see Chris DiMarco win as he has been very close a couple of times.

prxmid
04-08-2008, 07:19 PM
Tiger is even money to win. That is unheard of in golf, pre Tiger.

If he's on, he's only competing against himself

Judd
04-09-2008, 10:57 AM
Several weeks ago, there was an article about Tiger Woods explaining that it's estimated that he will become our first billion dollar athlete...billion...that's 9 zeroes!

Redfish44
04-09-2008, 05:49 PM
Tiger. Boomer would be awesome, but he has no heart and no guts, and very little desire. Did I leave anything out?

autobaun70
04-09-2008, 07:23 PM
CJS - 4/7/2008 4:34 PM

Until all of the women on all of the golf courses look like
the ones currently featured in "The Sandbar", I see
no reason to go there. :thumbsup:

You should see the wait staff in the Trophy Room, last year, our waitress appeared to be one of the Olson twins. If you get bored, check out the pro shop.......if you can get behind the rope. While you are there, don't forget about having a few "azalia's" from the bar.

prxmid
04-09-2008, 08:07 PM
I had the good fortune to play 3 rounds at Augusta, stay in the cabins, play the par 3 course.

Of course we played from the members tee's, I'm sure from the tips, it's a whole different course. But Tee to Green it's not very difficult (no par 5's in 2 for me). The greens are a whole different story. Fast as lightening, you could 4 put from 3 feet.

tprice
04-11-2008, 02:31 AM
Looks like a pretty good first round and Lefty is in the mix but Tiger is right where he wants to be

nj ron
04-11-2008, 10:32 AM
Lefty is moving up, currently, tiger is 8 strokes back. Should be an interesting weekend.


ron

Just1more
04-11-2008, 01:53 PM
I revert to my original post.

Who's this Immelman guy? Never heard of him.

It's far from over though.

2005 SeaCraft
04-11-2008, 02:26 PM
Tiger won't finish in the top 10... he's too far back and with wind moving in for the weekend, no one will go low... and I doubt 1/2 the field in front of him are going to put it in reverse.

kloweree
04-11-2008, 03:48 PM
2005 SeaCraft - 4/11/2008 2:26 PM

Tiger won't finish in the top 10... he's too far back and with wind moving in for the weekend, no one will go low... and I doubt 1/2 the field in front of him are going to put it in reverse.


I don't know...but you might be the only man in America that has counted Woods out after the 2nd round ..and he's still just 7 strokes out of the lead. ...with 2 days left to make it up. ;?

Redfish44
04-11-2008, 03:53 PM
I wouldn't count Tiger out of anything. He is the world's best period. Bad weather will help Tiger. Short hitters will be s-it out of luck. The front runners will fold like a 2 day old salt sprayed paper sack.

tprice
04-12-2008, 02:37 AM
I would say if he can not get in the top 10 today he is out of it, he will have to have a hell of a day on Saturday.

Lefty is hanging around near the top but it could be another unexpected winner

2005 SeaCraft
04-12-2008, 02:52 PM
Looks like Tiger left about 4 shots out there today... and some are doing a good job of backing up. Sunday is going to be a barn-burner. Windy too...should be interesting.

Redfish44
04-12-2008, 03:04 PM
Go Tiger!

littletunny
04-12-2008, 03:05 PM
Wow,

Pros backing up to Tiger.

What a shock.......

2005 SeaCraft
04-12-2008, 03:33 PM
Tiger and Phil might be paired together tomorrow

emgag
04-12-2008, 05:35 PM
It looked for a while like he may go into tomorrow only 2 back. now he's what, 6 back? I say too tough of a gap to make up.

Menzies
04-12-2008, 06:13 PM
Tiger has never won a masters when behind on the final day (and he has won 13 of the things). 6 strokes is a lot to make up - even if the leader chokes he has to make up on the next 4 or 5 as well.

I was just reading the leaderboard and here's a bit of trivia - there are two 50 years olds still playing in the masters on Sunday!

2005 SeaCraft
04-12-2008, 06:26 PM
Sandy Lyle & "wee" Woosnam (I don't think he's been on TV once this week).

Redfish44
04-13-2008, 05:23 AM
The pucker facter will definitely increase for those leaders ahead of Tiger around the 12th hole. LOL.

Menzies
04-13-2008, 05:29 AM
Menzies - 4/12/2008 9:13 PM

Tiger has never won a masters when behind on the final day (and he has won 13 of the things).

Whoops, I meant majors!

emgag
04-13-2008, 11:05 AM
To go a little "Johnnie Cochran" for a minute, ,

If Tiger can't win it,
He'll still be in it.

How many others are consistently in the top 10, if they don't get the win? He's the greatest IMHO. Go Tiger ! :thumbsup:

2005 SeaCraft
04-13-2008, 11:10 AM
-8 wins it. There, that's my prediction.

emgag
04-13-2008, 03:25 PM
emgag - 4/7/2008 11:21 AM

I'm not sure. but I believe that the winner will be the one who hits the most fairways and putts the best. The rough there is rough. And I also heard the greens are running a 13 now. Should be interesting.

...and it seems that Treavor has hit the most fairways and the most greens so far this week. I rest my case. :)

jtburf
04-13-2008, 04:54 PM
2005 SeaCraft - 4/11/2008 2:26 PM

Tiger won't finish in the top 10... he's too far back and with wind moving in for the weekend, no one will go low... and I doubt 1/2 the field in front of him are going to put it in reverse.

How does second fall in to the top ten???

T. Immelman -8
T. Woods -5
S. Cink -4
B. Snedeker -4
P. Mickelson -2

another great post there sea crap...


John

2005 SeaCraft
04-13-2008, 05:09 PM
2005 SeaCraft - 4/13/2008 10:10 AM

-8 wins it. There, that's my prediction.

I guess you missed this one... Dumbass.

V1rowT8
04-13-2008, 05:18 PM
Hey Emgag,

I'll give you that Tiger may be the greatest, but only when it comes to physical talent, and mental strength. What gets me with him though is how poor of a sport he can be when things are not going his way. I've witnessed countless times when he has slammed clubs into the ground, cussed, ranted, yelled at spectators, media, ect.... In so doing, the media has learned to pan away from him right after he hits a poor shot. They have learned that it's a must in order to keep the FCC off their backs because of the profanity which makes it accross the air waves.

Until these antics cease, he will never be the greatest in my book. Unfortunatley though, I would not be surprised to see a lots of kids yelling, screaming, and slamming clubs into the ground whenever they play poorly. They will think that if Tiger does it, it is acceptable behavior on the course. I'm here to say that it is not, and that golf should remain a gentleman's sport. After all, one can be intense and driven while also demonstrating good character and class.

Lastly, I thought it was a little pompus for Tiger to say "the grand slam is easily within reach". Perhaps in doing so, he put a little too much pressure on himself.

I will personally be Tiger's biggest fan when he gets his manners together on the course, but in the meantime, a big congrats is in order for Trevor.

2005 SeaCraft
04-13-2008, 05:27 PM
One, only one time was a "censorable" phrase aired this week... Yep, Tiger. Yesterday on 18.

I agree with the above post. Tiger is too much of a drama queen with stuff always blowing in his eyes, dramatic follow throughs, the cameramen, cussing... list goes on and on. Is he a great player? Sure.

Personally I lost some respect for Tiger at Murfield Village about 7 years ago. He is eating a banana and tosses the peel on the grond as he crosses the walkway on 15. About two groups behind him is Jack Nicklaus. As he crosses the walkway, he sees the peel and walks down into the rough boarding the creek and picks it up and puts it in his golf bag. Jack didn't know it was Tiger, just those of us watching from our spot on the course.

emgag
04-13-2008, 05:59 PM
V1rowT8 - 4/13/2008 5:18 PM

Hey Emgag,

I'll give you that Tiger may be the greatest, but only when it comes to physical talent, and mental strength. What gets me with him though is how poor of a sport he can be when things are not going his way. I've witnessed countless times when he has slammed clubs into the ground, cussed, ranted, yelled at spectators, media, ect.... In so doing, the media has learned to pan away from him right after he hits a poor shot. They have learned that it's a must in order to keep the FCC off their backs because of the profanity which makes it accross the air waves.

Until these antics cease, he will never be the greatest in my book. Unfortunatley though, I would not be surprised to see a lots of kids yelling, screaming, and slamming clubs into the ground whenever they play poorly. They will think that if Tiger does it, it is acceptable behavior on the course. I'm here to say that it is not, and that golf should remain a gentleman's sport. After all, one can be intense and driven while also demonstrating good character and class.

Lastly, I thought it was a little pompus for Tiger to say "the grand slam is easily within reach". Perhaps in doing so, he put a little too much pressure on himself.

I will personally be Tiger's biggest fan when he gets his manners together on the course, but in the meantime, a big congrats is in order for Trevor.

I agree with you. Please don't shoot the messenger. But he did show some restraint today when he pushed his drive into the trees and he called himself a "BUTT".

Menzies
04-13-2008, 06:14 PM
It would be a hoot if Immelman won the next couple of majors as well!

Redfish44
04-13-2008, 06:21 PM
Sea Craft - Why do you hate afro americans so much?

2005 SeaCraft
04-13-2008, 06:23 PM
he's asian-american. His father was an american. he mother is from SE Asia.

It's Asian-American.

Menzies
04-13-2008, 06:35 PM
2005 SeaCraft - 4/13/2008 9:23 PM

he's asian-american. His father was an american. he mother is from SE Asia.

It's Asian-American.

His father was an African-American, and I believe you will find that Tiger has no problems with being identified as African-American.

His father was an American hero - retired as a army Lieutenant Colonel after two stints in Vietnam, the second as a Green Beret.

Read his story, He was also a very good baseball player and was offered a place in the Nego League, turning it down to join the army.

Whatever you may think of Tiger, his father was a man to be respected. Period. Suggest you respect him too.

2005 SeaCraft
04-13-2008, 06:40 PM
Mensissy... Tiger's father was an AMERICAN. Not African American. He isn't from nor was he born/raised or parented by AFRICANS who became AMERICANS. He is an AMERICAN. I suggest you learn your facts.

emgag
04-13-2008, 06:54 PM
End this already !

Now, who wants to play me for $5 per hole? ;? Match play.

greenies, sandies, and polies. :grin:

2005 SeaCraft
04-13-2008, 07:00 PM
$5 a hole???

Come on make it $200 a hole, one down automatics with $50 trash (greenies, sandies, birdies, polies & schmolies) and a side bet of $300 nassau (keeps you putting everything out and playing by the rules).

For that, let's tee it. ;)

Tireless
04-13-2008, 07:32 PM
2005 SeaCraft - 4/13/2008 9:40 PM

Mensissy... Tiger's father was an AMERICAN. Not African American. He isn't from nor was he born/raised or parented by AFRICANS who became AMERICANS. He is an AMERICAN. I suggest you learn your facts.

My understanding is Tiger's racial composition is: one quarter Chinese, one quarter Thai, one-quarter Black, one eighth Native American, and one eighth Dutch.

2005 SeaCraft
04-13-2008, 07:39 PM
I didn't know there was a country called "Black"... Where is it? I can find China, I can find Thailand, I can find America and the Scandinavian thing is easy too... Where's "Black"?

Menzies
04-13-2008, 07:42 PM
Tireless - 4/13/2008 10:32 PM

and one eighth Dutch.



2005 SeaCraft - 4/13/2008 10:39 PM

and the Scandinavian thing is easy too...

:rofl: :rofl: What a dumbass!

2005 SeaCraft
04-13-2008, 07:47 PM
Menzies - 4/13/2008 6:42 PM

2005 SeaCraft - 4/13/2008 10:39 PM

and the Scandinavian thing is easy too...

:rofl: :rofl: What a dumbass!



Mensissy... go back to your cartoon boat you ass.

In historical linguistics, the North Germanic family tree is divided into two main branches, West Scandinavian languages (Norwegian, Faroese and Icelandic) and East Scandinavian languages (Danish and Swedish), along with various dialects and varieties. The two branches are derived from the western and eastern dialect group of Old Norse, respectively. There was also an Old Gutnish branch spoken on the island of Gotland. The East Scandinavian languages (and modern Norwegian, through Danish) were heavily influenced by Middle Low German during the period of Hanseatic expansion.

So...who's the dumbass now? Dumbass

Menzies
04-13-2008, 07:55 PM
2005 SeaCraft - 4/13/2008 10:47 PM

Menzies - 4/13/2008 6:42 PM

2005 SeaCraft - 4/13/2008 10:39 PM

and the Scandinavian thing is easy too...

:rofl: :rofl: What a dumbass!



Mensissy... go back to your cartoon boat you ass.

In historical linguistics, the North Germanic family tree is divided into two main branches, West Scandinavian languages (Norwegian, Faroese and Icelandic) and East Scandinavian languages (Danish and Swedish), along with various dialects and varieties. The two branches are derived from the western and eastern dialect group of Old Norse, respectively. There was also an Old Gutnish branch spoken on the island of Gotland. The East Scandinavian languages (and modern Norwegian, through Danish) were heavily influenced by Middle Low German during the period of Hanseatic expansion.

So...who's the dumbass now? Dumbass


You, you dumbass - Dutch = Holland.

Jaysus, what a loser! He couldn't even google it right! Betcha he spends the next hour trying to find something that makes Holland Scandinavian!

2005 SeaCraft
04-13-2008, 08:04 PM
Dumbass... it's the Netherlands, not Holland. Maybe you need to start using google. DUTCH is a LANGUAGE, not a citizen of a country. Dutch can refer to people of Scandinavian languages.

LOL... you really are a dumb fuc.

Tireless
04-13-2008, 08:11 PM
2005 SeaCraft - 4/13/2008 10:39 PM

I didn't know there was a country called "Black"... Where is it? I can find China, I can find Thailand, I can find America and the Scandinavian thing is easy too... Where's "Black"?

My bad, I should have said Asian, Asian, African, Native American and Caucasian

2005 SeaCraft
04-13-2008, 08:16 PM
I don't see any "Africans" in his direct descendants, Tireless.

At some point, we need to refer to people from Kansas as Americans.

Bruce W
04-13-2008, 09:38 PM
Tireless - 4/13/2008 10:32 PM

2005 SeaCraft - 4/13/2008 9:40 PM

Mensissy... Tiger's father was an AMERICAN. Not African American. He isn't from nor was he born/raised or parented by AFRICANS who became AMERICANS. He is an AMERICAN. I suggest you learn your facts.

My understanding is Tiger's racial composition is: one quarter Chinese, one quarter Thai, one-quarter Black, one eighth Native American, and one eighth Dutch.


PLEASE - I'm in the middle of trying to make some homemade Brunswick stew and have now screwed up the ingredients! :grin:

Regards,

Redfish44
04-14-2008, 05:11 AM
Well anyway congrats to Trevor Immelman which I believe is the first South African to win since Gary Player.

okletsfish
04-14-2008, 05:18 AM
Tiger over the years has showed me that he is a class act.Having said that I usually pull for the underdog.In this case Snedeker or Immelman.In the case of Immelman with his come back from 2 serious medical conditions in the last year had me pulling for him.

V1rowT8
04-14-2008, 07:35 AM
Hey, doesn't Trevor keep a home in FL? If so, wouldn't that allow him to refer to himself as an African-American?

By the way, I don't want to be called "caucasion" anymore. From now on, I prefer to be referred to as European-American! LOL

Again, congrats Trevor.

emgag
04-17-2008, 09:07 AM
Something else not too many people know about Tiger. He supposedly played the Masters with a really bad knee. No one even knew. Supposedly it's in such bad shape he is due for surgery on it soon. Bad knee and all, he still finished 2nd. :thumbsup:



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