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raftguy-1
03-29-2008, 07:29 PM
I am still shopping for a cat. I have looked closely at World, Glacier and TwinVee.

Today at the Palm Beach Boat Show I looked closely at the ProKats.

The sales pitch was that that ProKat is a planing hull that will do better in a following sea and won't steer weirdly the way a World Cat does when going down sea. This can happen in a WC, I've experienced it. The sales guy admitted the WC or the Glacier will do better in a head sea. I can understand this if the ProKat is a planing hull.

The Prokat seems nicely appointed and had good fit and finish. Not as nice as a WC but nice.

Anyone with experience(s) with ProKat? Please share those experiences and ideas.

The boats I looked at are the 2660 and the 2360

Thanks.


bigfoot2
03-29-2008, 08:27 PM
What are the prices on the different brands of cats... 23 and 26'?

raftguy-1
03-30-2008, 06:53 AM
Bigfoot:

ProKats:

The 2360 is fitted with four stroke Yammie 150s and had a tag on it for $74K

The 2660 is fitted with four stroke Yammie 225s and the tag is $89K

Both have the same fish boxes. The 2660 has a bunch of storage in the floor (not sure I would want it there) and lockable rod storage.

I did not see or was given "as they sit" prices on the World Cats.

- Craig


CudjoeDon
03-30-2008, 07:03 AM
I have the "baby" ProKat: a 2006 20' single-engine center console with factory T-top, trailer, etc., that I bought used about 14 months ago with 42 hours on the Suzuki 140 [now have about 130 hours on it]. Everything is solid, uses name-brand parts [Rule, Bennett, T-H Marine and so on]. Fit-and-finish is quite good, especially in the areas that matter [hinges, fasteners, T-top, clamps, railings, handles], not as nice in some of the cosmetic fiberglass areas. It has a lot of room and the layout I was looking for [to be an all-around boat for snorkeling, fishing, cruising] in a package that would be handy.

HTH,
CudjoeDon

skeeter77346
03-30-2008, 07:15 AM
We have a 2660 with twin Zuke 200s and really like the boat. We fish it off of Grand Isle, La and Venice, La. Great manners at sea. Fish boxes are foamed and do a good job keeping ice in summer. We like the in floor rod and gear storage. For the money it is a solid boat that serves our needs very well.

See http://www.mathernebrothers.com/ for a few boat pics and catches...

rbhankins001
03-30-2008, 07:55 AM
Did ProKat solve their hull/deck cap joint issues?

I would look long and hard at the World Cat (and then buy one). That is a serious machine.

I would not even think about buying any boat, especially a cat without a sea trial in some sloppy choppy conditions.

Good luck.

raftguy-1
03-30-2008, 09:23 AM
Rbhank:

Good eye on the hull/deck issue. That is exactly the kind of information I am looking for from my fellow THT-ers. Thanks.

Can anyone answer the joint issue questions?

Again, thanks.

thehonkeykat
03-30-2008, 09:33 AM
Can anyone answer the joint issue questions?


just about sunk me 20 miles off fl keys

jim

tommyr904
03-30-2008, 09:41 AM
know nothing about the WC but have fished alot on the twinn vee and the 2660 prokat.the twinn vee was a little dryer as the prokat sneezed alot.the twinn vee seemed to drive a bit better and seemed to ride better the faster you went.the prokat that i have fished on has a leak in the starboard side that the owner and dealer is having a hard time locating.this is gonna be a real problem if the bilge pump fail's one night or while the owner is offshore.

cold beers
03-30-2008, 06:37 PM
tommyr904 - 3/30/2008 7:41 AM

know nothing about the WC but have fished alot on the twinn vee and the 2660 prokat.the twinn vee was a little dryer as the prokat sneezed alot.the twinn vee seemed to drive a bit better and seemed to ride better the faster you went.the prokat that i have fished on has a leak in the starboard side that the owner and dealer is having a hard time locating.this is gonna be a real problem if the bilge pump fail's one night or while the owner is offshore.

I had a 22 Prokat. It had a leak in both hulls. The dealer could not find them either. The factory was no help (and it was only 1 year old). I tried every thing to find the leak, Even filling the hull with water while on the trailer. One day while my wife was driving I started looking in the access hatches and saw water running in from the hull to cap joint, where the rub rail drops down at the stern. I took off the rub rail and found a 1" gap in the cap to hull joint. I glassed it in and problem fixed. All the other problems were fixed the day I sold it.

GOOD LUCK!!!

raftguy-1
03-30-2008, 06:46 PM
OK, thanks everyone for the replies.

I have "heard" enough.

I'm moving along to World Cat or Glacier Bay.

I'm sure many others will agree. THT is great the wealth of knowledge and experience is priceless.

Again, thanks.

capecodguy
03-30-2008, 06:47 PM
I have a nice Glacier Bay 2680 for sale.

http://www.thehulltruth.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=189140&posts=11

You could repower with a couple of new F150's and get a hell of a boat for less than the new ProKat 2360. It is a cuddy cabin though and it looks like you are looking for a CC. :)

*shameless plug*

science69
03-30-2008, 10:38 PM
raftguy-1 - You might want to check out the Renaissance prowler 246 cat. I had one and loved it. The only reason I sold it was because I moved up to their 306. I'd give them a look at www.renaissancecats.com. They are a planning hull like the Prokat but more in the same class as a Glacier Bay or World Cat as far as quality.
JMHO

mdr000069
03-31-2008, 08:25 AM
Didn't Glacier Bay have an issue with deck joints too? I remember seeing pics of one of them sinking on this site some months back.

mrhoward
03-31-2008, 08:42 AM
also look at the sea cats I hear they are just as good or better than the WC and at a better price point..... :thumbsup:

jbg108
03-31-2008, 08:54 AM
mdr000069 - 3/31/2008 7:25 AM Didn't Glacier Bay have an issue with deck joints too? I remember seeing pics of one of them sinking on this site some months back.



I've seen two of them, both 1999 models. There were probably more but I think the issue is ancient history at this point. Someone else might have more insight.



I have run all the Cats and spent time on a 2660 Prokat. Everything about it felt cheaper than the competition. The hardware was lower quality, the fish box doors were not a good fit and were not gasketed ect. That being said I loved the ride. It was quick, dry and leaned in to turns more than the others. I would own one, I would just want to pay less for it than for a WC of GB.

mdr000069
03-31-2008, 09:04 AM
Ancient history? Not if i was in the market for a used Glacier Bay, i would have liked someone to tell me there might be an issue there. I''m not saying there not well made boats, but it is something that should be put out there.

jbg108
03-31-2008, 10:26 AM
I was under the impression Raftguy-1 was looking at new boats. It appears the design was updated at some point since the problem boats are nine years old now. I simply shared the information I had as well as my opinion. I knew about the issue before I bought mine last fall so I obviously feel it's isolated to the older boats.

I do not feel that your post was bashing or untrue, I do believe that since your post ended in a question mark you were looking for more posts on the subject.

Hopefully someone with more information on the situation will share with the rest of us.

good stuff
03-31-2008, 11:01 AM
I owned a 2001 28' Prokat CC. One day on the water fishing meant two days on land putting her back together.

catfoiler
03-31-2008, 11:19 AM
If you can afford it go look at Prowler it is in another class for quality.

capecodguy
03-31-2008, 06:17 PM
There was no determination as to the cause of the sinking of the Glacier Bay last fall. There are too many questions about that particular incident to say for sure what happened. It has been discussed extensively on THT.

Problems that have been documented by GB owners are on 1998 or older boats. In any case, Glacier Bay redesigned the hull and the hull-deck joint in 1999. My GB has exactly the same hull-deck joint and attachement method as the current models.

Ranger1
03-31-2008, 06:22 PM
I've got a Twin Vee and love it, but if I was a young guy this is the cat I'd buy.
http://www.freemanboatworks.com/
Its being built by a local guy, its truly beauty and the beast.



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