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Glen E
11-25-2007, 06:39 AM
Some one asked me at a party the other day and I realized I did not know north of Lauderdale exactly. How far to the stream from:
Jupiter
Daytona
Jacksonville
Charleston
Hatteras
Jersey shore
NE


haleraiser2
11-25-2007, 06:43 AM
From Savannah Ga. about 78-80miles.

dawiggs
11-25-2007, 06:51 AM
From Hatteras, NC> +/- 25 miles
From Oregon Inlet, NC> +/- 40 miles

Regards to All!


surly
11-25-2007, 07:00 AM
Generally 70 mi or so to the closest canyon (100 fathom drop) from most ports in NE. The stream can be anywhere from 15 to 75 miles past that. We usually dont go to the stream up here but look for filaments of water that spin off and butt up to the 100 fathom curve, so running to the stream is unusual. (thankfully) The inherent structure and upwellings of water on the edge hold masses of bait (and pelagic fish) on its own merit. However, when gulf stream eddy interaction is present conditions become optimal and life typically becomes focused and intense in a relatively small area.

T-bone123
11-25-2007, 07:16 AM
NC is tricky in distance to the stream, Hatteras and Oregon Inlet are relativley close, where as the southern parts of the states such as Wrightsville beach or Ocean Isle have much longer runs, 60-70 miles. From Topsail Island my regular run is about 60-70 miles.

Bugbuster
11-25-2007, 07:18 AM
You can run south out of Jacksonville and it's about 50. Straight out about 65, and north, well a long dang way. Yep, I miss the keys. Not to mention in Jacksonville, sometimes 15 miles once you hit the inlet to da house.

1bayouboy
11-25-2007, 07:44 AM
Charleston is about 57 miles to the ledge running straight out. Specific fishing spots are north and south and can be 65-70 miles.

UBETRUN
11-25-2007, 07:46 AM
About 80 miles from VA Beach.

TurboDan
11-25-2007, 08:08 AM
A friend once told me roughly 80-miles off Manasquan Inlet, NJ.

Dumb question, but... If I had a boat capable of going 80 miles off, and did so in the middle of January or February, would the air temperatures be significantly warmer out there?

makosteve66
11-25-2007, 09:12 AM
Glen - the Stream is much closer to us in South Florida - The NOAA forecast includes approximate locations of the West Wall of the Stream from Florida Ports - here is todays. 14 mile NE of PE.

GULF STREAM HAZARDS
SEAS UP TO 6 FEET TODAY THROUGH MONDAY.

THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE WEST WALL OF THE GULF STREAM AS OF
NOV 23, 2007 AT 1200 UTC...

10 NAUTICAL MILES SOUTH SOUTHEAST OF FOWEY ROCKS.
14 NAUTICAL MILES EAST NORTHEAST OF PORT EVERGLADES.
7 NAUTICAL MILES NORTH NORTHEAST OF LAKE WORTH.

THIS DATA COURTESY OF THE NAVAL OCEANOGRAPHIC OFFICE.


AMZ650-670-252130-
/O.ROU.KMFL.MA.F.0000.000000T0000Z-000000T0000Z/
COASTAL WATERS FROM JUPITER INLET TO DEERFIELD BEACH, FL OUT 20 NM-
WATERS FROM JUPITER INLET TO DEERFIELD BEACH, FL EXTENDING FROM
20 NM TO 60 NM-
1020 AM EST SUN NOV 25 2007

SMALL CRAFT SHOULD EXERCISE CAUTION


THIS AFTERNOON
SOUTHEAST WINDS 15 TO 20 KNOTS. SEAS 4 TO 6 FEET.
INTRACOASTAL WATERS CHOPPY IN EXPOSED AREAS. SLIGHT CHANCE OF SHOWERS.

TONIGHT
SOUTHEAST WINDS 15 TO 20 KNOTS. SEAS 4 TO 6 FEET.
INTRACOASTAL WATERS CHOPPY IN EXPOSED AREAS.

MONDAY
SOUTHEAST WINDS 15 TO 20 KNOTS BECOMING 10 TO 15 KNOTS
IN THE AFTERNOON. NEAR SHORE...SEAS 2 TO 4 FEET. WELL
OFFSHORE...SEAS 4 TO 6 FEET SUBSIDING TO 2 TO 4 FEET IN THE
AFTERNOON. INTRACOASTAL WATERS CHOPPY IN EXPOSED AREAS.

makosteve66
11-25-2007, 09:17 AM
Sorry misread - your post - for other areas - you can tell from SST charts. I like the one from Rutgers Univ. It is call the Coll Room and it is free. I will try to post an example

makosteve66
11-25-2007, 09:22 AM
Here is the SST for the NE - The Gulf Stream is clearly evident by the dark orange. You scan see it close to the outer banks and then the curve to the NE

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f287/captsteve/SST.jpg

makosteve66
11-25-2007, 09:28 AM
here is some more for mid-florida coast

GULF STREAM HAZARDS
NONE.

THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE WEST WALL OF THE GULF STREAM BASED
ON SATELLITE IMAGERY AS OF SATURDAY NOV 24 AT 1 AM...

41 NAUTICAL MILES EAST OF PONCE INLET.
30 NAUTICAL MILES EAST OF PORT CANAVERAL.
24 NAUTICAL MILES EAST OF SEBASTIAN INLET.
14 NAUTICAL MILES EAST OF FORT PIERCE INLET.


They get the info from the SST satellite overheads (like the one from The Cool Room) You can get them for the entire Coast from NOAA's site. The closeness of the Stream really changes depending on time of year.

Schmaltz~Herring
11-25-2007, 10:29 AM
7.1897 miles from my livingroom due east.



:Q


[That would be Singer Island]

EODContender
11-25-2007, 06:45 PM
Man, I love fising out of South Florida!!!

blueh20pc
11-25-2007, 06:48 PM
it's about an hour east of my living room.

KeyPineSavage
11-25-2007, 07:01 PM
Glen

It also varies a great deal, at least in some areas. I am most familiar with the area from Miami to Key West. Here (from the National Data Buoy Center) is the 11/23 forecast for GS distances:
THE APPROXIMATE EDGE OF THE GULF STREAM...AS OF NOVEMBER 23...

35 NAUTICAL MILES SOUTH OF DRY TORTUGAS.
35 NAUTICAL MILES SOUTH OF MARQUESAS KEYS.
35 NAUTICAL MILES SOUTH OF KEY WEST.
38 NAUTICAL MILES SOUTH OF BIG PINE KEY.
35 NAUTICAL MILES SOUTH OF MARATHON.
30 NAUTICAL MILES SOUTHEAST OF CRAIG KEY.
18 NAUTICAL MILES SOUTHEAST OF KEY LARGO.
14 NAUTICAL MILES EAST OF OCEAN REEF.

GULF STREAM INFORMATION COURTESY OF THE NAVAL OCEANOGRAPHIC OFFICE.

Note the Marathon, Big Pine and Key West distances. Often, these will be as little as 12, 8 and 20 or so. It depends on time of year, climate pattern in force, etc., etc. I am told that further north (Carolinas north) the distances are, comparatively, more stable, but I do not know that for a fact.

If you Google, there are a bunch of good websites with this info. Steve mentioned one, and another is oceanpro.com

redneckromper
11-25-2007, 07:28 PM
It is about 60 miles from St Augustine an 70 from Jacksonville.

ras315
11-25-2007, 07:31 PM
At 80 miles in savannah, you just get into 200 feet.

Tireless
11-25-2007, 07:32 PM
When I boot up the GPS at the dock and enter my gulf stream waypoint.....it says I only have 92 miles to go.......2 to 2 1/2 hours later we are putting out our spread.

makosteve66
11-25-2007, 07:52 PM
Sometimes I can be in the stream 20 minutes from the dock. But that is not everything. It seems that the Yellowfin Tuna make a left at the Florida/Georgia Line and head for the far side of the stream. I used to run to the Canyons regularlly when I fished the Northeast, but at least I had a shot of some nice YFT or BigEye, Down here the YFT is such a rarity that it is a novelty to catch one.

I would kill for a YFT fishery off of south Florida, At least the Swords seem to be making a comeback. At the risk of offending the environmentalists I will say that I wish they would drill for oil in the Fl Straights. I hear they have pretty solid info that the oil is there and we need it desperately. I also would not mind some offshore platforms and the ecosystems they develop about 20 miles off the Florida Coast - Lets face it - when was the last time you heard of a leak from an offshore platform? And don't give me the arguments about hurricane vulnerability - They have not seemed to have that problem in the Gulf. Sure, they took some damage during Katrina and others, but did any of them leak?

We need the oil. And we need the YFT to come and stay off of our coast. Along with some nice Wahoo, marlin, etc. I'll get down off of my soap box now. I am allowed to dream. If you build it they will come!

Girl Talk
11-25-2007, 07:57 PM
1bayouboy - 11/25/2007 7:44 AM

Charleston is about 57 miles to the ledge running straight out. Specific fishing spots are north and south and can be 65-70 miles.



About forty two or three to the ledge. The ledge and the stream are two different things.

ClassicGuy
11-26-2007, 02:59 AM
TurboDan - 11/25/2007 8:08 AMA friend once told me roughly 80-miles off Manasquan Inlet, NJ. Dumb question, but... If I had a boat capable of going 80 miles off, and did so in the middle of January or February, would the air temperatures be significantly warmer out there?Yes absolutely. I have been out there is mid November when there is a warm eddy. We were wearing goose down at the dock ashore where it was 35 degrees. Midday out at the canyons the air temperature was 60 degrees or more if the wind is calm. Actually a really pleasant place to be -- except that it can turn really ugly in a hurry and you better have a big boat and an enclosed, heated helm.

Anthem
11-26-2007, 01:32 PM
Though the distance varies, but from Jupiter your looking at anywhere from 7 to 12 miles.

lcosta01
11-26-2007, 02:35 PM
blueh20pc - 11/25/2007 9:48 PM

it's about an hour east of my living room.

20 minutes from my backyard.

Like EOD said, it's a blessing to live in South Florida. :)

vhf2
11-26-2007, 03:20 PM
40NM from Ponce Inlet on most days. As the previous poster mentioned it's in the NOAA broadcast. Hard running this time of year.

1bayouboy
11-26-2007, 03:52 PM
Hey Girl....I don't call it the "ledge" until around the 100 fathom curve.... :Q

RED HEAD
11-26-2007, 04:23 PM
36 FROM CAPE LOOKOUT TO THE THE EDGEON A SOUTHERN HEADING.FLORIDA GUYS,YOU DO HAVE IT GOOD ;cool;



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