Marine Electronics Forum - Best VHF w/LCX-111HD
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06-18-2007, 09:55 AM
What do you recommend as the best interfacing Class D(?) VHF to connect to a Lowrance LCX-111HD GPS?
It's time to replace my eight year old Icom. It works perfectly but won't interface with the GPS. Besides, it's turned from white to an ugly yellowish color despite being covered when not in use. I guess white was not the smartest choice.
06-18-2007, 10:38 AM
If you want Class D, then the Std Horizon Quest-X is the best one for the buck. I've seen them as low as $125 if you shop around on the net. Or, Boaters World is closing out the ICOM 502 at $144....which is a good deal.
The Lowrance unit will not receive NMEA position points back from the VHF...so an ICOM 304 (which receives NMEA info from the GPS but doesn't transmit it ****** would also be an option.
06-18-2007, 11:20 AM
Can't the NMEA "in" receive the GPS from the VHF?
I have an ICOM 302 hooked up tp my 111 and love both.
06-18-2007, 01:06 PM
I have had good luck with the new uniden units. The UM525 has great features and the quality is much better now than 3-5 years ago. Second choice would be the Icom M504, just a tough unit that will last forever, and proven too! I don't thing the Icom 502 was a class D dsc receiver, check into that one.
06-18-2007, 02:49 PM
Probably not the answer you are looking for but relative and informative.
06-19-2007, 09:33 AM
Thanks for the replies.
Thanks for the thread. I read it with interest when it started but had forgotten about it. Shame on Lowrance for inaction on the issue. I think I'll e-mail Ben on Panbo and see if he'll stir the pot on his blog.
If I got it right from the thread the X-111 handles the position sending data as needed but fails to place a cursor on the map when a distress signal is received but instead only displays the coodinates? Also, if I got it right, the X-111 will display a distress cursor on the map if it is interfaced with Lowrance's VHF Model LVR-850? Guess I need to contact Lowrance.
Have any of you folks tried the LVR-850 interfaced with an X-111 or any Lowrance GPS? Any opinions on the LVR-850 performance? I like Icom but am willing to use any decent radio if it will properly (completely) interface with my X-111.
06-20-2007, 09:41 AM
Thanks for the IM on this issue.
As I said on 06/19 I've suggested an article on this issue to PANBO. PANBO recently beat up Garmin for the same sin but Garmin's problems are far wider than this single issue with Lowrance. I think total interconnectivity across electronic brands is way too important to allow Lowrance to get away with bad behavior and misleading advertising.
06-20-2007, 10:09 AM
Garmin chartplotters have no issue with two way communications with vhf radios. NMEA connectivity is confusing but very useable. Most of the issues I correct are related to proper grounding of MNEA connectionsnot on the Garmin side but the vhf side.
06-20-2007, 10:32 AM
Check out the June 11, 2007 PANBO article on Garmin (0183 or 2000, you tell me (& G.)). Radios are not the issue as with Lowrance, but other devices are. I think you'll find it to be an interesting read. The comments on the article are perhaps the most interesting read.
BTW, I had a reply from Ben Ellison of PANBO and he said he will address the Lowrance interconnectivity issue in a future article but that it will be awhile as he is a bit backed up at this time.
06-21-2007, 11:15 AM
The best radio out there for a fishing boat is the UNIDEN 625C 30 watts on distress and 85 DB of separation. The 85DB of separation is what makes it a wow. I am not going to get carpel tunnel syndrome explaining db of separation but will try in a sentence or two.
A radio is a tuning device and the better the separation of channels the clearer the communication is. Cheap radios are about 70Db not bad 75-80 but look around of the 300 bucks 85 is only in one radio the uniden 625C....add that to a really good antenna with at least 3 feet of wire and you have a talking machine. It has all the outlets for your lowrance also ( I have mine connected to a 113HD)
06-21-2007, 01:25 PM
I have installed over 50Garmins + another 30 Ray, Furuno, and Lowrance unitsthis year and haven't had any issues with NMEA interfacing with other vendors equipment except Lowrance and that's been sending NMEA back to Lowrance and that is a Lowrance issue. NMEA protocol is pretty simple to work with once you understand the basics. I've read the article on Panbo kinda chuckled to myself.
06-21-2007, 07:32 PM
Will your 113 display a vessel cursor on the map if your 625C receives a distress call?
I can accept that my Lowrance lacks 100% interoperability with non-Lowrance VHFs in that it will not display a cursor on the map of a vessel in distress. I believe it will display the grid coordinates but am not yet certain. Or, perhaps the radio panel on the larger units displays the coordinates.
As I don't yet own a class d VHF to hook up to my Lowrance I have a bit to learn. At least I can use a Lowrance VHF but have no reason at this time to love them. I have not even found the specs for the radio on the Lowrance web site... yet. I'd really rather have an Icom!!
06-21-2007, 07:39 PM
The ICOM/ SH radios are both excellent choices very easy to use and install. I'm still scratching my head why Lowrance hasn't made the software changes to make their units two way NMEA compatable with ICOM/SU/Uniden. They make great plotters. It an be very frustrating.
06-23-2007, 06:56 PM
I will be hooking up my Lowrance LVR 850 to my LCX 26CHD this coming week. This should be the same as what you
would have if you used the same radio. Also I did bench test the Lowrance VHF last week at a Motorola two way shop
and had great results. Well pleased with the radio for only $90. Will post on this thread after I run test next week.
06-24-2007, 09:44 AM
Thanks for the info. I believe I saw your post on the bench test on the LVR 850 thread. Good report!!
I look forward to your upcoming report on the operation of these two items interconnected.