Marine Electronics Forum - Wanted - Raymarine Sportpilot Plus

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swamplizard
06-05-2007, 10:29 AM
Hello - I am new to the site but look forward to checking it out a few times a week.

I have a rather strange vessel that has surface drives with power assist - due to the nature of the outdrives, I can't have a rudder or relative angle sensor of any kind and tapping into the hydralics is very ugly .... so I have to go simple for Autopilot....I can't find a new SportPilot Plus (been discontinued) so I am looking for a healthy used one.

Can anyone direct me to sources or if you have one lying around - email me orenard at comcast dot net

Many Thanks and fair seas.


swamplizard
06-05-2007, 10:51 AM
BTW- might be willing to trade an 1989 Furuno radar array and monitor for it....if applicable. Thanks!

SeaSwirler23
06-05-2007, 06:44 PM
Sorry to burst your bubble, but the old SportPilot needed a rudder ref when used on boats with hydrualic steering or cable to power assist or it would "S" like crazy, overwork its clutch and gearbox. Not that this hiccup is not longterm much better for you, just think of it as not wasting 4 hours on the install and 2 hours on the de-install once it didin't work. as I am having trouble typing laughing so hard thinking about how woefully inadequate any version of a SportPilot would be on a boat that has surface penetrating drives. You would literally be better off with a bungee cord. I was under the impression that Arnason(sp?) had some sort of angle sensing device that was a cable driven potentiometer for use with their surface penetrating drives. Depending on its output, it might be suitable for another pilot. On a different tack, what type of steering cable is coming from your helm? You might be able to replace the helm with one of the octopus helms that has both the pilot drive motor and rudder reference output built in. This drive can be used with both SimRad and RayMarine controllers and corepacks.


swamplizard
06-05-2007, 09:06 PM
Thanks Sea for your comments

I have benett trim tab meters to show me the angle of the drives and the trim tabs but nothing that reads port and stbd. I have an aquaintance iout west who is more of a fisherman with the same vessel and he simply turned up the "gain" on his sportpilot+ and it has been great for his needs. My intent is to use it when I trawl and when I do long runs at idle speeds to save gas or fish - on the ocean where there is lot's of room. As soon as this boat is on plane the steering is SO light and responsive it is a bit unnerving - pretty sure the sportpilot would freak out at speed.

signmansez
06-06-2007, 11:42 PM
If you are up to making a call to the West Marine in Altamonte Springs, FL talk to the manager Gary. He used to install electronics for a living and described to me his way of using the inboard rudder ref set-up on an outboard and it was a very reliable way to go. I plan on doing this when I add AP to my Pursuit. As long as you have a exposed steering arm of some sort his technique should work. Good Luck.

tobnpr
06-07-2007, 09:04 PM
SeaSwirler23 - 6/5/2007 6:44 PM

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the old SportPilot needed a rudder ref when used on boats with hydrualic steering or cable to power assist or it would "S" like crazy, overwork its clutch and gearbox. Not that this hiccup is not longterm much better for you, just think of it as not wasting 4 hours on the install and 2 hours on the de-install once it didin't work. as I am having trouble typing laughing so hard thinking about how woefully inadequate any version of a SportPilot would be on a boat that has surface penetrating drives. You would literally be better off with a bungee cord. I was under the impression that Arnason(sp?) had some sort of angle sensing device that was a cable driven potentiometer for use with their surface penetrating drives. Depending on its output, it might be suitable for another pilot. On a different tack, what type of steering cable is coming from your helm? You might be able to replace the helm with one of the octopus helms that has both the pilot drive motor and rudder reference output built in. This drive can be used with both SimRad and RayMarine controllers and corepacks.

Agreed. I have a Sportpilot + on a 28' single IB Chris-Craft with mechanical steering. It does have the rudder reference transducer, and works fairly well but does get confused in rough sea states. Tracks like an arrow while trolling. Would never think about using it on a high-speed (over 30kts) hull.

swamplizard
06-09-2007, 09:01 AM
not looking to cruise at thirty w autopilot guys. just for trolling.

I've talked to the experts - reference arm wont work.



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