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bullredd
06-04-2007, 07:26 PM
What is the different between the two other than the 585 output power up to 1kW and the 620 can goes up to 600kW. One has a smaller screen of course but my dilemma is that I will be putting this unit on a 260 Glacier Bay and an in hull and a thru hull transducer is not possible per Glacier Bay factory manual. I will have to transom mount the transducer and Furuno only makes transom mount transducer with output power up to 600kW. If this the case, would I be wasting monies for buying the 585 instead of the 620 since I can only use the transom mount ducer?


Wildfish
06-05-2007, 07:59 AM
The extra $$'s for the FCV585 is well worth it for the screen size alone. Furuno does offer a 1kW transom mount but being 1kW it is a lot bigger than the 600W. Get the 585 and if ever you have the need to upgrade to 1kW then it is merely a transducer upgrade as the 1kW facility is already built into the 585 :thumbsup:

ATCER
11-05-2008, 03:17 PM
Wildfish/Bullredd: Are you sure the 585 comes standard with the 1kW built in or is it CAPABLE of having 1kW with additional purchase of whatever is needed...I'm interested because I'm looking at the 585 for myself...also, bullredd I'm just curious why you can't use the in hull M260 ducer??? I have the 26 foot Twin Vee, I'm wanting to put the 585/M260 package together...Thanks, John


slief
11-05-2008, 04:08 PM
I just put a 585 in my Glacier Bay.. I also opted for the B164 1kw thru hull transducer. Me being a short little guy, I like having big things.. That said, if display size is at all a concern, the 585 is going to be your best choice. I am very happy with mine though my choice was also based on filling a previously cut hole that was occupied with an older raymarine radar that I upgraded along with my chart plotter. One thing I did notice and like was the fact that I could hold bottom at 500+' doing 27+MPH! That was impressive to me. I have never had a transom mount ducer do that before.. Not even close.

warthog5
11-06-2008, 06:35 AM
The 585 has a menu switch to put out 600watts or 1000watts.

One thing is for sure. If you buy one it will be a Looooong time before you upgrade again. In fact you just may pull it off of your boat when you sell the boat.

Mayda Marine
11-08-2008, 05:17 PM
I needed to upgrade my depth finder so I searched this site for info. I ended up buying a FCV 585 from BOE with a 1kw trans. It's a fantastic unit to say the least!!!
What type of fishing do you mostly do?

Thanks to all members,
Mayda Marine

potty dock
11-08-2008, 06:19 PM
Mayda Marine - 11/8/2008 8:17 PM

I needed to upgrade my depth finder so I searched this site for info. I ended up buying a FCV 585 from BOE with a 1kw trans. It's a fantastic unit to say the least!!!
What type of fishing do you mostly do?

Thanks to all members,

SMART MOVE!


Mayda Marine :thumbsup:

Topend
11-09-2008, 12:33 PM
For the FCV-585 to output 1kw you will also need a Matching Box MB-1100. Without it the FCV-585 will only output 600w.

Cheers.

tonybanco
11-09-2008, 01:14 PM
Topend, are you sure about that?

There seems to be a lot of confusion about the MB-1100 and when is it actually needed.
I have the 585 matched to a B164 Tilted element and believe that the box is not required for 1kw operation.
I have also read the following on the B260:
"a B260 is a di-plexer transducer, meaning it's supposed to plug directly into the 585. You don't need the MB-1100 for di-plexer transducers, only non di-plexer units and the furuno single frequency rubber transducers."

Perhaps someone that's in the industry can clear this up for us all..................... Jim from BOM, can we have your comments?

Tony

slief
11-09-2008, 01:14 PM
Topend - 11/9/2008 12:33 PM

For the FCV-585 to output 1kw you will also need a Matching Box MB-1100. Without it the FCV-585 will only output 600w.

Cheers.

Is that the case with any 1Kw transducer??? I just installed a 585 with a B164 and based on what you are saying, even though my 585 is set to 1Kw, I am only getting 600w out of my 585/164 combo?

Topend
11-09-2008, 02:11 PM
In regards to the MB-1100, I have the Furuno brochure in front of me. The following is a quote from this brochure.

600 W/1 kW* via transducer selection
*Matching Box MB-1100 required with some transducers

I am assuming that running a 1kW transducer without the MB-1100 will work but not at the full 1kW it is capable of. I don't currently have a FCV-585 but have researched it as I plan to get one.

Cheers.

slief
11-09-2008, 05:26 PM
I was just advised from by Jim at BOE that the 585 does not need the MB-1100 when used with the B164. That's good news for me as I don't need to spend any more $$!

ATCER
11-09-2008, 06:00 PM
That's good enough for me...that's what I was wanting to know...I'm going to get one pretty soon, think I'll wait til Christmas or after to see if prices will come down a little...good info guys, thanks...John

tonybanco
11-10-2008, 12:26 AM
Yeah me too, I'm glad we got that sorted out. Always dangerous to generalize with insufficient facts but we still don't know when the box is actually required.

Tony

Topend
11-10-2008, 12:57 AM
So have you paid extra for a 1kW transducer and only driving it with 600W.

If that is the case and you don't fish deep water it will work well. You also get the narrower beam of the B164 than I have with my B60. If it is deep water performance you are after I'm sure you still need the MB-1100.

tonybanco
11-10-2008, 02:10 AM
Topend, what are you going on about mate?

We just had it confirmed by Jim of BOE that the FCV-585 drives (puts out) 1kW with the B164 transducer without the MB-1100, the guy is well respected in the industry so I tend to believe what he says.

What does this discussion has to do with your B60 which is a 600w transducer?

Furuno states in their manual that the FCV-620 and FCV-585 are identical other than for screen size and output (600w against 1 kW, with the right transducer), they also say that

"Matching Box MB-1100*"
"*:for connection to 1 kW transducer (50B-6, 50B-6B, 200B-5S, 50/200-1T)"

So the way I see it, if you add those 1kW transducers mentioned above you DO need the MB-1100, however because the B164 was introduced after the FCV-585 was released there is no mention of it in the manual, hence the confusion/uncertainty so we need someone to to confirm (as Jim has done) where we stand with the B164.

Seems clear enough to me.

Tony

cravenMH
11-10-2008, 03:29 AM
If a Furuno transdcuer comes with a 10-pin plug and has a built in diplexer you DO NOT need the MB1100.The B164 is the same as the Furuno 526TID-LTD (made by Airmar) and comes with a 10-pin plug. No MB1100 is needed.

Topend
11-10-2008, 01:29 PM
I stand corrected. The brochure has a diagram that clearly shows the MB-1100 for 1kW transducers so anyone reading this would come to the same conclusion.

cravenMH, thanks for the explanation.

Cheers.



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