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Ktrain
05-15-2007, 03:03 PM
I am interested in hearing some opinions on what is a fair price to have someone come wax the hull of you boat. Now I am just talking the hull no top sides, hit it with a fiberglass cleaner then a coat of wax. What do you feel would be a fair price to do that.........

I have a 31' Fountain Te.....I think a fair price is around $550


wellcraft290
05-15-2007, 03:12 PM
some mexican approached me in the yard he and a buddy waxed the top side of a 29 wellcraft for 100 bucks. He used my wax. To give you an idea

Onewolf
05-15-2007, 03:17 PM
Not oxidized? Maybe $200 at most. I did my Pursuit a month ago and it only took about 6 hours for the outside of the hull. ;?

Doug


Cat O Lies
05-15-2007, 03:24 PM
Depends on what she looks like! :)

whaler11
05-15-2007, 04:17 PM
If I could wax 2 boats a day for that amount, I could make two hundred thousand dollars a year working 200 days a year. If I thought the guy waxing my boat was making 200 grand waxing boats, I'd figure he was making too much money.

Ktrain
05-15-2007, 05:08 PM
humm......my buddy just got his 38 ft nortic tug waxed at a marina and got a bill for $2k. I would pay some one $550 to wax a 31ft boat that seems fair to me. and maybe a $100 for the topside. but to use a fiberglass cleaner to get all the scuff's off and minor oxidization then put a coat of wax on takes about 14 to 15 hours to do correctly.

Capt. KJB
05-15-2007, 05:24 PM
Ktrain - 5/15/2007 5:08 PM

humm......my buddy just got his 38 ft nortic tug waxed at a marina and got a bill for $2k. I would pay some one $550 to wax a 31ft boat that seems fair to me. and maybe a $100 for the topside. but to use a fiberglass cleaner to get all the scuff's off and minor oxidization then put a coat of wax on takes about 14 to 15 hours to do correctly.

14 to 15 hours? Are you using a buffer or a toothbrush?

ChillOutfishing
05-15-2007, 05:55 PM
This topic is an interesting one. There are those folks take great care of their boats and those who just want to use the boat and perform the least amount of work.

YES, $550 is a good price, 14/15 hours is a good estimate, but you can always cut corners and just do it in a 2/3 hours say $50 per hour, there you have it for $150.

What would I pay? In my case I do it myself, once ever year or two depending on use.

If you had this business and the going price is $10 per foot and add for other items, then you can easily see that $550 is cheap for a 31 foot boat (approx. $18 per foot) for deep clean & wax.

AC
05-15-2007, 05:56 PM
I got a few quotes around 500 bucks to buff and wax a couple of boats.Hull only. So I would say that's about right.Trouble is,none of them knew what they were doing,and did NOT get the hull to shine. I tried myself and also failed.Finally sought advice from a pro,and tried it again. Wow! Came out great. If they don't have the correct equipment and products,it will not work. Anybody can wax a boat,not many can bring a dull one back and make it shine.Don't even talk to auto detailers,they don't have a clue.

Onewolf
05-15-2007, 05:57 PM
The top and cockpit take much longer for me than the outside of the hull because they usually have more oxidation and they have a lot more small areas that can't be done with the high speed buffer/polisher. The outside of the hull goes very quickly even if it's got a little oxidation (which it doesn't) with the high speed buffer and 3M fiberglass restorer or cleaner and wax.

The outside hull takes 5-6 hours total, the inside takes 8-10 hours total (including the brightwork).

Doug

ChillOutfishing
05-15-2007, 06:01 PM
AC, right on the nail.
The 2nd trick and learning experience is how long will it last, 3mo, 6 mo, or a year?
Get the best stuff you can possibly buy, as much as I hate this kind of work, but if you have to sweat and tears, then minimize the number of times.

Ktrain
05-15-2007, 06:02 PM
that is what im saying!! for a good fiberglass cleaning and a good wax job it really is not an easy task. anyone can slap a coat of wax on and go in a few hours. once it's done the right way there is such a difference....

captbigfoot
05-15-2007, 06:48 PM
Down here in south Louisiana the going rate is $13-$15 dollars a foot for the hull the the same for the top side unless there is a ton of detail then the price goes up.

wellcraft290
05-15-2007, 06:55 PM
we all bitch about our mechanics etc... do you think the guy doing the wax job will do a great job? You would do a lot better yourself. Spend a day at the marina have a few beers wax teh boat. Is quite enjoyable too

tommyr904
05-15-2007, 06:58 PM
550 call me i'll have my girlfriend and her girlfriend come do it.and give ya a show :grin:

surveyingdawg
05-15-2007, 07:06 PM
It costs me $75. My employee that I pay $15 an hour and it takes 5 hours. ownership has its perks

knowhowiroll
05-15-2007, 07:10 PM
any pictures of those 2 technicians?

bigtuna
05-15-2007, 07:12 PM
500 Bucks!!! I can wax my whole 31 contender in less than an hour with the meguires. I would not pay over a hundo

Ktrain
05-15-2007, 08:00 PM
if you can wax a 31 contender in under an hour your not doing it correctly. i can't beleive you think $500 is out of hand to wax a 31' boat, that is what is cost to get a good wax job, plus the fiberglass cleaning.

jdmessler
05-15-2007, 08:24 PM
I just paid my marina $525.00 to do the hull of my 26 Reg.

pugnacious33
05-15-2007, 08:35 PM
My wife doesn't charge me anything, but i'm pretty darn handsome :)

tped
05-15-2007, 08:41 PM
I have a girl that does my topsides on my 320 Sundancer from the rub rail up - all stainless and everything - she charges me $300. Before her my original guy was $550. I do the hull sides myself before she hits the water. My marina where I winter store is $15/foot for waxing.

welder
05-15-2007, 09:24 PM
Not a dime.

welder
05-15-2007, 09:25 PM
Double post.

I wouldn't pay .20

rkatz
05-15-2007, 09:25 PM
I just paid $200 for my 23' Whaler Outrage, hull sides and top sides, including bright work. Not the best job ever, but good enough for me. Now, I just have to go and take a couple of extra steps to do it to my taste. Beats working on it all weekend and, by default, being away from my little ones all weekend. Once those little monkeys can use an orbiter though, all bets are off!

mike168
05-15-2007, 10:06 PM
I would pay $15 a foot tops for a hull cleaning and waxing. It took me about 10 minutes to clean the hull with soap, an hour to clean up the water line and remove any stains with bar keepers friend, an hour to apply collinite fiberglass cleaner and two hours to apply the fleetwax on a 20 foot boat. Total time about 5 hours including the time to let the boat dry. I applied all the wax by hand. This comes out to about $60 an hour which seems reasonable. So for a 30 ft boat, $450 would seem reasonable. I prefer to do it myself since the only way to do it right is by yourself. The deck is another story.

bigtuna
05-15-2007, 10:18 PM
Ktrain,

Nope, I do it perfectly and it turns out beautiful. After every trip I soap the outside of the hull and clean any scum....takes maybe 15 minutes. So when I go to wax, my hull is already clean (kept indoors). I take 2 beach towels. Rub the wax on a small section (bout the size of the hood of my truck). By the time I am done waxing on, it is ready to be waxed off...so I take the other towel and buff it off and make my way down the boat doing the same thing. Turns out great every time with the meguires fleetship I believe. You heard me correctly...less than an hour on to wax a 31 contender following the directions on the back of the bottle.

Dal929
05-15-2007, 10:34 PM
I just paid $500 for a complete top and bottom detail for my 290 coastal. The top needed a deep cleaning to remove heavy oxidation. I've paid up to $800 before but that dealer was a thief. All winter storage boats were required to get a cleaning as per the contract.

moses0
05-15-2007, 11:25 PM
Having mine done right now. Total detail. $10 a foot. other bid was $14 a foot.

mirage2521
05-16-2007, 12:24 AM
Onewolf - 5/15/2007 3:17 PM

Not oxidized? Maybe $200 at most. I did my Pursuit a month ago and it only took about 6 hours for the outside of the hull. ;?

Doug

WHen I contract this typ of wark out I usually charge 35-45 and hour and typically pay a sub-contract guy 20 an hour to do it. In this area I am cheaper than most. Do yourself a favor and establish a relationship with someone in this business and pay him by the hour to do it every 6 months.

prockvoan
05-16-2007, 06:49 AM
Just did mine.It was in rel need.I used 3m cleaner/wax in one.From the rubrails down,I was able to use a buffer,came out great.The top side was all done by hand.That was a bit-h!From washing to waxing,I put about 12 hours with more time into the washing.I guess its good till the fall.$550?Pay it!My time cost me more then that,but it gave me a chance to check out everything on the boat to see if everything is sealed up tight which was!

redseacraft
05-16-2007, 12:49 PM
I guess some of you guys are made of money. $550.00 to wax a boat??? My wife and I recently waxed our 23 SeaCraft with Awlgrip cleaner and then Awgrip wax. We did the hull, bracket and topsides. It took 3 hours, a few cold one's and we didn't rush and we did it 100% by hand.

If your boat is less than 5 years old and the paint is in relatively good condition I can't see paying someone more than 200 bucks to wax the outside of a 31' boat. I mean come on, really. One guy hand apply wax and another guy follow with a buffer. No more than 4 hours.

It sounds to me like you have already made up your mind so go ahead and spend the $500+ bucks. Maybe for another $100 bucks each he can wax your motors........

schiffo
05-16-2007, 02:22 PM
redseacraft - 5/16/2007 12:49 PM

I guess some of you guys are made of money. $550.00 to wax a boat??? My wife and I recently waxed our 23 SeaCraft with Awlgrip cleaner and then Awgrip wax. We did the hull, bracket and topsides. It took 3 hours, a few cold one's and we didn't rush and we did it 100% by hand.

If your boat is less than 5 years old and the paint is in relatively good condition I can't see paying someone more than 200 bucks to wax the outside of a 31' boat. I mean come on, really. One guy hand apply wax and another guy follow with a buffer. No more than 4 hours.

It sounds to me like you have already made up your mind so go ahead and spend the $500+ bucks. Maybe for another $100 bucks each he can wax your motors........

Um, this IS a boating forum, Red. Generally speaking, not a lot of poor people own boats.

Though I personally wax my own, it all boils down to what cost you place on your free time. Since I have a lot of free time, I do my own. But my brother, a doctor w/ 2 kids, doesn't have a lot of free time. And if it weren't for me, he would gladly spend $550/year to have someone do it for him.

You make it sound like an absurdity with your triple question marks and your sarcasm at the end. Did you even read any of the posts before yours? At least half of the repliers here agree with the poster. what should that tell you? At least that $550 to have someone clean and wax your boat sounds reasonable to at least 50% of the members here.

The bottom line is whether it's your preference or not, paying someone to wash and wax your boat is perfectly acceptable, and far from rediculous. It all depends on how we value our time.

mirage2521
05-16-2007, 04:45 PM
bigtuna - 5/15/2007 7:12 PM

500 Bucks!!! I can wax my whole 31 contender in less than an hour with the meguires. I would not pay over a hundo

I wish I still had my bullship smiley this would be a great time for it.

mirage2521
05-16-2007, 04:50 PM
schiffo - 5/16/2007 2:22 PM

redseacraft - 5/16/2007 12:49 PM

I guess some of you guys are made of money. $550.00 to wax a boat??? My wife and I recently waxed our 23 SeaCraft with Awlgrip cleaner and then Awgrip wax. We did the hull, bracket and topsides. It took 3 hours, a few cold one's and we didn't rush and we did it 100% by hand.

If your boat is less than 5 years old and the paint is in relatively good condition I can't see paying someone more than 200 bucks to wax the outside of a 31' boat. I mean come on, really. One guy hand apply wax and another guy follow with a buffer. No more than 4 hours.

It sounds to me like you have already made up your mind so go ahead and spend the $500+ bucks. Maybe for another $100 bucks each he can wax your motors........

Um, this IS a boating forum, Red. Generally speaking, not a lot of poor people own boats.

Though I personally wax my own, it all boils down to what cost you place on your free time. Since I have a lot of free time, I do my own. But my brother, a doctor w/ 2 kids, doesn't have a lot of free time. And if it weren't for me, he would gladly spend $550/year to have someone do it for him.

You make it sound like an absurdity with your triple question marks and your sarcasm at the end. Did you even read any of the posts before yours? At least half of the repliers here agree with the poster. what should that tell you? At least that $550 to have someone clean and wax your boat sounds reasonable to at least 50% of the members here.

The bottom line is whether it's your preference or not, paying someone to wash and wax your boat is perfectly acceptable, and far from rediculous. It all depends on how we value our time.

The time thing is the answer to it. I take care of a boat for a guy who has a few $$$$ he just bought a Gulfsteam 5 to give you an idea of the cash level. He does not want to spend his time waxing a boat. He generally make 500-700 an hour if he worked hourly...why on earth would he wax a boat when he can pay someone to do it for him. I am perfectly capable of cutting my own grass, I just dont want to. PS..lol..he pays me a lot more than $20 a foot but, around here boat monkeys are a dime a dozen but boat monkeys you can trust with a credit card and boat keys are very few.

gulfstream516
05-16-2007, 04:51 PM
sure u can wax a 31 contender in an hour.... If you do it all the time. The original post wanted the guy to go over the hull with a fiberglass cleaner then wax the hull. Sure you can find some neighborhood kid to do it cheap or someone out of work or as someone mentioned a mexican to do it cheaper. You can also find a mechanic to do your engine services on the side for a lot cheaper as well. $550 for what the original post asked for was not a bad deal at all.
The biggest expense is insurance, sure the kid down the street will do it cheaper but what if he burns your paint or puts nice beautiful swirls down the side of your boat? Someone who doesn't know what they are doing can do some nice damage with a high speed buffer. Second what if this kid or "mexican" falls off a ladder detailing your boat on your property for $200 bucks? People kill me, they look at as "I just paid $300 bucks for 6 hours of work, that's $50 AN HOUR!!" Well, first of all the guy has to drive to the boat so there is gas there, He has to have insurance, he has to buy the supplies then after he collects his $550 dollars, he has to pay uncle sam about 32%, then drive home using more gas." Some people act like this guy is going to profit $550 for the day. It kills me how some of these people will have a 200K boat that burns god knows how much fuel @ almost $4.00 a gallon every weekend and then they gripe over or nickle and dime a detailing bill once or twice a year.

q3131a
05-16-2007, 05:00 PM
AC - 5/15/2007 5:56 PM

I got a few quotes around 500 bucks to buff and wax a couple of boats.Hull only. So I would say that's about right.Trouble is,none of them knew what they were doing,and did NOT get the hull to shine. I tried myself and also failed.Finally sought advice from a pro,and tried it again. Wow! Came out great. If they don't have the correct equipment and products,it will not work. Anybody can wax a boat,not many can bring a dull one back and make it shine.Don't even talk to auto detailers,they don't have a clue.

Care to share?

Local Motion
05-16-2007, 05:05 PM
How lazy (and/or FAT) can you get?

baitdragger
05-16-2007, 06:40 PM
Every year since new, my father and I wax our 28' boat with Collinite cleaner then wax. I have used a white/green can paste wax called Royale at the recommendation of the boat yard one or two of those years, but like Collinite.

Takes us about 4 hours each for a total of 8 hours. All by hand. Count on $20 bucks for old rags and wax. We apply cleaner, remove, then wax, go eat lunch at the marina bar and come back and remove.

Water beads off my hands like a duck for a day, but it gets done right and I don't have the port side bottom paint covered in white mess when I do it. Never had a problem, don't need someone else to do it, my time is better spent to get it right.

Had the yard bottom paint the boat once, I would say they got about 50% of the bottom covered as I could tell where the old bottom paint was due to a different color. Lesson learned.

Raybo Marine NY
05-16-2007, 07:01 PM
hulls are easy



WHEN THEY ARE CLEAN


otherwise its almost a full day's job to properly compound, glaze, and wax.

To do the topside, cockpit, cabin , etc... your easily a full day for a man or two.

A boat that requires attention might need 2-3 passes of expensive compound, not some Garrys special.

chops67
05-16-2007, 07:02 PM
I have a 1988 20' Hydra Sport . I paid $7 a foot. Buffed out with 3m compound and waxed with Collinite. The hull looks new. Couldn't be happier, and for $140, worth every penny.

Raybo Marine NY
05-16-2007, 07:03 PM
as for the seacraft guy with the awlgrip hull- you cant compare a PAINTED awlgrip hull to a gelcoat one.

You washed yours with thier awlwash, then used thier awlcare, which is water thin- I can do that in under 2 hours with taking a beer break as well.

LUCKY DAVE
05-16-2007, 08:58 PM
I expect to pay about $20 per foot. It depends on the size of the boat of course, and what style of boat we're talking about.

I recently got mine washed, spot polished by hand (no buffer, it's a painted boat) and waxed once again by hand, with colinite fleet wax. They waxed the tower as part of the deal, hard to reach and there's a lot of it.

It took two guys 3-1/2days to do right, $20/foot was a deal. That's seven man days of skilled labor for $1200.

mrd5601
05-16-2007, 10:32 PM
wash, then very mild compound/cleaner, then polish, and then wax. 4 steps (polish is like a conditioner for the gel coat)

redseacraft
05-17-2007, 11:28 AM
LUCKY DAVE - 5/16/2007 8:58 PM



I expect to pay about $20 per foot. It depends on the size of the boat of course, and what style of boat we're talking about.

I recently got mine washed, spot polished by hand (no buffer, it's a painted boat) and waxed once again by hand, with colinite fleet wax. They waxed the tower as part of the deal, hard to reach and there's a lot of it.

It took two guys 3-1/2*days to do right, $20/foot was a deal. That's seven man days of* skilled labor for $1200.

Lucky, How big is your boat?

OspreyVic
05-17-2007, 03:30 PM
You guys really make me happy that my boat is plastic.

Just realizing the money I am saving or the many hours of work I do not have to do is making me thirsty.

True, my boat is not as shinny as yours, but I can live with that. Have fun guys, I am going to go get that drink.

Ktrain
05-17-2007, 04:14 PM
i just saw a plastic boat today that has been sitting on a bunk trailer, and the entire bottom was warped!! kinda blew my mind as my dad has been looking at them and was about to buy one till he saw this. guy said that once he puts it in the water the warp will go away........kinda crazy, not sure if that is a good thing.

jaycough
08-16-2007, 07:48 PM
$10/foot

welder
08-16-2007, 08:39 PM
0 $

Alloy boat , reason # 956 to buy a alloy ride.


;cool; :grin:

ichthusman
08-16-2007, 08:47 PM
Anywhere from 16-24.oo/ft along the central Gulf Coast is the norm, but that should include the entire vessel, metal etc..

BubbaBert
08-17-2007, 07:53 AM
I'm paying 15 a foot to have my hull wet sanded, compounded and waxed

NewMoon
08-17-2007, 08:15 AM
Prices usually range in the $16-$19 a foot range depending on how much work it entails. Wide beam boats and cabins can be more.

bigjimmie
08-17-2007, 10:09 AM
Raybo Marine NY - 5/16/2007 7:03 PM

as for the seacraft guy with the awlgrip hull- you cant compare a PAINTED awlgrip hull to a gelcoat one.

You washed yours with thier awlwash, then used thier awlcare, which is water thin- I can do that in under 2 hours with taking a beer break as well.


wait a few years, if he keeps it long enough, when that thing needs repainted
you will be able to hear him whine 500 miles away

Mr. Demeanor
08-17-2007, 10:33 AM
Just the hull sides for $500+ ... no friggen way. It only takes an hour at most with an orbital. Given the fact that even the best waxes only last a few month at best and that has to be the worst investment in the boat I can think of.
While we are on the subject, I paid $1700 for a custom made cover for my 25' CC. Thats about 3 wax jobs and people think I am nuts for doing it. Funny thing is I bet my wax jobs last 3 times longer and it will do more to increase the resale of my boat.

Ellie's Navi Gator
08-17-2007, 10:45 AM
I wouldn't pay someone to do it because I always feel that I will pay more attention to detail than someone else. I'd usually do a good waxing on my 30'er about twice a year. I'd wax hullsides and under the boat (while on the trailer). I'd usually wash it one day and then use the Collinite cleaner that's supposed to be used before waxing. I'd go through a full bottle each time. Then, I'd wax it with the Fleetwax using a buffer (usually a 1/2 a can). It would usually take me 5-6 hours, but nobody ever have thought that the 1997 hull I had was any older than about an 03. So, I would think about $10 - $12 a foot would be fair considering that I'd end up going through $50 in washer, wax, microfiber towels, etc.

Getting a good coat of wax on the bottom of the hull does get you a mph or so. :thumbsup:

Mac25
08-17-2007, 10:53 AM
to each thier own!, live and learn, how does one value thier free time?, very fair price for a job well done! ama that a well done job will last more than a couple of months.

2swift
08-17-2007, 01:44 PM
I use slave labor. Kids are great! :grin:

2swift
08-17-2007, 09:23 PM
Sorry to reply again but the wife said I better include her in the slave labor grouping as well. :thumbsup:
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h183/patczeck/slavelabor001.jpg

fishthis10
08-17-2007, 09:52 PM
What would I pay? It depends.. Before I start I say I wont pay to wax my boat...but after a few hours in the heat I always think...Next time I will pay someone! I think $10/ft would be fair.

jerseyken
08-17-2007, 10:09 PM
I pay $8 a foot for a 36 Coastal. I get that price because I signed up for a once a month deal. They come once a month and do everything including cleaning th cabin. One guy spends a day and 1/2 here taking care of everything. Best money I spend... :thumbsup:

PharmD_Heel
08-17-2007, 11:50 PM
As is the case with my car, only my hands will touch my boat when it comes to cleaning her. For me, whether it's cleanign my car or my boat, it's a pride thing and when you do it yourself I believe you do a much better job because it's your boat that you are cleaning. I'd rather take an extra day and do it right myself than over pay someone else to do it. That and I enjoy cleaning my boat.

thataway
08-17-2007, 11:57 PM
$500 to 550 sounds right for the good people in our area--using a good compound, and then paste Colinate Fleet wax--takes a day, sometimes more. I would do it myself if I could, but as we age, these maintance items become difficult to do~!

jackospades
08-18-2007, 06:12 AM
I had no idea how involved it can get. My boat is only 20' with a good gelcoat base. It takes me an hour. Am I not doing something right? How many coats?
;?

LUCKY DAVE
08-18-2007, 05:15 PM
I recently had the topsides -not the hull- of my boat hand waxed (it's a painted boat, no power buffers or abrasive!) and paid $20/foot. The crew also polished all the aluminum and stainless including the tower in the deal.
Three Mexican guys worked four days on her. A screaming deal for $1200.

Robe 1
08-18-2007, 07:22 PM
FWIW, I just got an estimate for the boat in my signature for a complete detail inside and out (not sure what exactly that entails though) and it is around $600/

ghost28
08-18-2007, 11:03 PM
31 fountain sides only on land..... a good compound, finesse, glaze and 2 coats of High quality wax would cost ya $350.00 here on long island done by yours truly.... topsides and all brightwork would cost ya $650.00...thats if the boat is in reasonable condition....add to that if boat is badly faded, dirty, full of fish guts, ETC....as far as time goes the sides take about 6-8hrs and the deck about the same....

i do some detailing for local guys through a High performance shop nearby and i am not cheap by any means..... but i have yet to have an unsatisfied customer....the thing i tell everyone i do a job for is if you are not happy when i am done then dont pay me....just about everyone has paid me more than i asked....

make sure you get someone who truly knows how to do the job right ....the lowest price doesnt mean it ewill be done right for less money it means they WILL take shortcuts....i get alot of calls from peopel asking for pricing and when i tell them i need to see the boat first to assess its condition they are all like well the guy i found on Craigslist told me $XX.00FT....i tell them to go hire that guy and when he Fux up there boat call me back and i will do it right...



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